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HELP FIGHT TERROR - FReep this poll!!!
The Age ^ | 9 September 2005

Posted on 09/08/2005 4:29:39 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

Are you prepared to relinquish some civil liberties to fight terror?


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: australia; civillibertarians; terrorism
The civil libertarians are at it again: defending their terrorist mates!

Help fight terrorism DownUnder by voting in the poll to support the Howard Government's actions against terrorists.

1 posted on 09/08/2005 4:29:40 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher

I would not while our southern border is still wide open. Why should I relinquish liberties when illegal aliens get rights I do not have? Let the aliens surrender their liberty first.


3 posted on 09/08/2005 4:32:36 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Gentlemen may cry, "Peace! Peace!" -- but there is no peace. - Patrick Henry)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Are you prepared to relinquish some civil liberties to fight terror?

This is The Age to prepare to release some terror to fight civil liberties.


4 posted on 09/08/2005 4:32:44 PM PDT by hflynn ( Soros wouldn't make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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To: Aussie Dasher

What civil liberties are they talking about. How can one answer the question?


5 posted on 09/08/2005 4:33:08 PM PDT by Bahbah (Tim Russert is a poopy-head)
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To: William Creel
"Fight terror" = rely on the Government to fight terror?

I'm not too confident.

6 posted on 09/08/2005 4:33:31 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Bahbah
What civil liberties are they talking about. How can one answer the question?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1480564/posts

These are the proposals they are talking about.

7 posted on 09/08/2005 4:40:34 PM PDT by naturalman1975 (Sure, give peace a chance - but si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

That is like "when did you stop beating your wife" questions.

It doesn't have to be necessary.


9 posted on 09/08/2005 4:48:23 PM PDT by Shazbot29 (muhammed was the most evil person ever to live. May he burn in hell forever)
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To: naturalman1975

Thanks.


10 posted on 09/08/2005 4:51:50 PM PDT by Bahbah (Tim Russert is a poopy-head)
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To: Aussie Dasher

That's a poorly worded question, but:

I would NEVER reliniquish any of my freedoms, no matter what. Not for anything. I will fight to the death for ALL of my rights.

Cruel but sad truth: I would rather see people die in terrorist attacks than see any of our freedoms be lost.


11 posted on 09/08/2005 4:55:55 PM PDT by pcottraux
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They need another poll that says

Are you prepared to relinquish some civil liberties to fight hurricanes?


12 posted on 09/08/2005 4:58:42 PM PDT by plain talk
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In the heat of crisis, the restraints on government power evaporate — and the chains of slavery can be forged.

‘‘They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety," observed Benjamin Franklin, "deserve neither liberty nor safety." The harsh verdict of history sustains the bitter truth of Dr. Franklin’s observation. Those who give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety end up trading freedom for security. The present moment calls for sober reflection on that grim warning. Are we giving up essential liberties in the war on terror for the promise of safety? In the name of security are we concentrating and institutionalizing power in such ways that we are inviting terror far beyond what any terrorist group could ever hope to inflict on us?

Recall that throughout history — and particularly in the past century — governments have been by far the primary and most lethal instruments of terror. Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein, and their fellow dictators have proven the most efficient terrorists. Wielding unbridled power, they have turned the state into an instrument of terror, death, and destruction. In our stampede to safety after the 9-11 attacks, have we been rushing headlong into a deadly trap?

We have already allowed an incredible and unprecedented concentration of power, threatening to destroy all constitutional protections. The new Department of Homeland Security and the USA Patriot Act represent an enormous restructuring and centralizing of power. These radical innovations’ full impact has not even begun to be told. Yet each day brings word of new proposals calling for the federal government to usurp more power, and for the states and the people to surrender more of their rights, freedoms, and responsibilities. Projecting the lines of trajectory from current trends, we could soon be living in an Orwellian police state


13 posted on 09/08/2005 5:24:18 PM PDT by KDD (http://www.gardenofsong.com/midi/popgoes.mid)
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To: KDD

Yeah, and all in the name of security.
-sarcasm


14 posted on 09/08/2005 10:38:32 PM PDT by md2576 (I don't need no stinking badges.)
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To: naturalman1975

Thanks, after reading this, since I am not a terrorist, not supporting any, don't plan to, I see no problem with this.


15 posted on 09/08/2005 10:43:12 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
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To: pcottraux

Wow.


16 posted on 09/08/2005 10:43:49 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
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To: ladyinred

Check the AIR AMERICA SCRAMBLES thread, m'lady.


17 posted on 09/08/2005 10:51:07 PM PDT by pcottraux
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To: Aussie Dasher

No.


18 posted on 09/09/2005 6:36:12 AM PDT by Natty Boh III
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