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Five critiques of Intelligent Design
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| September 3, 2005
| Marcelo Gleiser, Jerry Coyne, Richard Dawkins, Scott Atran, Daniel C. Dennett
Posted on 09/08/2005 1:33:48 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
Five critiques of Intelligent Design
John Brockman's Edge.org site has published the following five critiques of Intelligent Design (the bracketed comments following each link are mine):
Marcelo Gleiser, "Who Designed the Designer?" [a brief op-ed piece]
Jerry Coyne, "The Case Against Intelligent Design: The Faith That Dare Not Speak Its Name" [a detailed critique of ID and its history, together with a summary defense of Darwinism]
Richard Dawkins & Jerry Coyne, "One Side Can Be Wrong" [why 'teaching both sides' is not reasonable when there's really only one side]
Scott Atran, "Unintelligent Design" [intentional causes were banished from science with good reason]
Daniel C. Dennett, "Show Me the Science" [ID is a hoax]
As Marcelo Gleiser suggests in his op-ed piece, the minds of ID extremists will be changed neither by evidence nor by argument, but IDists (as he calls them) aren't the target audience for critiques such as his. Rather, the target audience is the millions of ordinary citizens who may not know enough about empirical science (and evolution science in particular) to understand that IDists are peddling, not science, but rather something tarted up to look like it.
Let us not be deceived.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: biology; creationism; crevolist; darwin; darwinism; education; evolution; intelligentdesign; science; superstition; teaching
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To: Doctor Stochastic
ah - a simple translocation, not like the veritable saltation involved in the puzzling-but-common QG interchange error.
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posted on
09/08/2005 7:03:03 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
To: PatrickHenry
I take back all the snide thoughts I had during your "Festival of 25,000 posts."
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posted on
09/08/2005 7:03:11 PM PDT
by
Gumlegs
To: ml1954
Where were you programmed?
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posted on
09/08/2005 7:03:46 PM PDT
by
dynoman
(Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
To: snarks_when_bored
Yawn, all this is saying is that science-as-we-know-it can't grok the concept. They can not show that in absolute truth it isn't so.
To: ClearCase_guy
To ask the question "Who designed the Designer?" is to fundamentally (willfully?) mis-understand what you're up against.The "Who designed the Designer?" argument is not meant to enlighten about god, rather, it proves quite convincingly that ID does not qualify as a scientific theory.
To: Doctor Stochastic
We're out here holding up the tails of the bell curve. Without us, it would be exp(-x**3).
(laughing)
To: Gumlegs
Hold them ... we haven't won yet.
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posted on
09/08/2005 7:05:30 PM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(Discoveries attributable to the scientific method -- 100%; to creation science -- zero.)
To: Doctor Stochastic
To: PatrickHenry
Ah, a modest recognition of Darwin Central's contribution to the preservation of Western Civilization.
LOL. What initiation rituals are involved in joining Darwin Central?
To: Coyoteman
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posted on
09/08/2005 7:06:34 PM PDT
by
Doctor Stochastic
(Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
To: Doctor Stochastic
Nothing convincing--just a fluke.
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posted on
09/08/2005 7:08:13 PM PDT
by
VadeRetro
(Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
To: VadeRetro
Did Nobel invent that?
No, I think it was dynoman.
(Kidding, dynoman, kidding!)
To: Vive ut Vivas
What initiation rituals are involved in joining Darwin Central?If we tell you, we'd have to kill you. You're supposed to figure it out on your own. When you do, you'll know.
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posted on
09/08/2005 7:08:30 PM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(Discoveries attributable to the scientific method -- 100%; to creation science -- zero.)
To: CarolinaGuitarman
Hey, we really shouldn't start again since we are both already winners.
Besides you already know how I would answer.
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posted on
09/08/2005 7:08:45 PM PDT
by
dynoman
(Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
To: drlevy88
Isn't that the past participle?
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posted on
09/08/2005 7:09:22 PM PDT
by
Doctor Stochastic
(Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
To: Deb
To: Doctor Stochastic
I'll match your tail...
277
posted on
09/08/2005 7:10:30 PM PDT
by
Coyoteman
(Is this a good tagline?)
To: VadeRetro; snarks_when_bored
could be worser - could have catalysed catalepsis
if this keeps up, this thread shall morph into a catafalque as the conversation catapults catastrophically over the cataract of catatonia
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posted on
09/08/2005 7:10:39 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
To: snarks_when_bored
Excellent articles. It's a shame the pinheads don't/won't read them.
To: King Prout
Categorically wrong.
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posted on
09/08/2005 7:11:44 PM PDT
by
VadeRetro
(Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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