The beast(s) must be stopped!
Posted on 09/06/2005 6:58:18 AM PDT by areafiftyone
(Angus Reid Global Scan) – Former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani holds an early advantage in the 2008 United States presidential race, according to a poll by Rasmussen Reports. 42 per cent of respondents would support the Republican in a head-to-head contest against Democratic New York senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
In 2000, Giuliani withdrew from a campaign to the U.S. Senate—where he would have faced Rodham Clinton—after being diagnosed with prostate cancer. Giuliani garnered national and international attention in the aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
In a contest pitting Arizona senator John McCain against Rodham Clinton, the Republican holds a two-point edge over the Democrat. In 2000, McCain won seven GOP presidential primaries in the U.S., but retired from the race after eventual nominee George W. Bush became the frontrunner.
Bush is ineligible for a third term in office. The next presidential election is scheduled for November 2008.
Polling Data
Who would you vote for in the 2008 U.S. presidential election?
Rudy Giuliani (R) 42% - 39% Hillary Rodham Clinton (D)
John McCain (R) 40% - 38% Hillary Rodham Clinton (D)
Source: Rasmussen Reports
Methodology: Telephone interviews to 1,000 American adults, conducted on Aug. 29 and Aug. 30, 2005. Margin of error is 3 per cent.
HERE IS THE RASMUSSEN POLL:
Election 2008: Giuliani 42% Clinton 39%
September 2, 2005--In hypothetical match-ups for the 2008 Presidential Election, Republicans Rudy Giuliani and John McCain both are essentially even with Democrat Hillary Clinton.
A Rasmussen Reports survey finds Giuliani leading Clinton 42% to 39% and McCain ahead of the Democrat 40% to 38%. An earlier survey found Clinton leading Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.
The survey highlights a major difficulty facing McCain as he seeks the GOP nomination--he's not very popular in his own party. Just 48% of Republicans have a favorable opinion of McCain while 27% have an unfavorable view.
By way of comparison, among Republicans, Giuliani is viewed favorably by a 63% to 17% margin.
Still, in an indication that Senator Clinton is the defining candidate for this poll, 72% of Republicans say that they would vote for McCain. Seventy-three percent (73%) say they would vote for Giuliani.
Overall, among all Americans, McCain is viewed favorably by by 37% and unfavorably by 31%. For Giuliani, the numbers are 45% favorable and 27% unfavorable.
Hillary Clinton is viewed favorably by 42% and unfavorably by 43%. The Hillary Meter has measured the New York Senator's efforts to move to the political center this year. Currently, 28% of Americans say they would definitely vote for her and 39% would definitely vote against.
Both Republicans lead Clinton among men and trail by a slightly smaller margin among women.
Maybe the dems should nominate McCain or Rudy. In fact, that is exactly what the dems SHOULD do. The GOP certainly shouldn't nominate either one of them.
The beast must be stopped!
Who will the GOP win with? Of is it too soon to introduce a dark horse and hope the horse runs.
In order of (my personal) preference...
Mike Pence
Haley Barbour
George Allen
Comparisons are being made left and right to Hizzhonor and his leadership and Nagin and his utter failure...
I have a generally favorable view of Giuliani -- AS MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY. He did a good job as mayor of cleaning up that town. As national leadership material, however, he would be very poor. He does not reflect GOP values and would not govern as a conservative.
None of them have particularly good polls.
I hate to say it but from what I have seen of Allen and Frist they make watching Paint dry EXCITING!
Interesting. I'm also interrested in a stategy where any one of these three can win. I won't say it can't happen but the stragetgy isn't clear to me yet.
Who will the GOP win with? Of is it too soon to introduce a dark horse and hope the horse runs.
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This is the sad dilemma we are in. The Repubs have NO CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE to run. But at the same time, we MUST WIN and keep a power-mad Stalinist out of the White House. Great choices, right? RINO OR MORE SOCIALISM...the choice sucks.
Well, if you think back to September 1997, the GOP landscape for the 2000 election was nowhere near ready to determine a front-runner. In fact, it was later than that when a generally intelligent and politically savvy co-worker surmised that Senator John Ashcroft was a likely front-runner for the GOP nomination. W was getting his re-election campaign for Governor of Texas into full swing. So I would say, yes it is MUCH too soon to handicap the race for the 2008 nomination. But I will say this: If the nominee is either McCain or Guiliani, the democrats will win the presidency in 08 because even a hillary candidacy will not energize the GOP base enough to embrace either of those RINOs.
If Guiliani wanted to test his viability for the presidency then he should have run for Governor or NY or against hillary for the senate (either in 2000 or in 06). He would need to demonstrate that he can win a statewide race in NY before aspiring to the presidency.
Yup and politics is ALWAYS compromise. We can refuse to learn from the past and tear ourselves apart (again) or we can compromise and take this MUST WIN and hope to keep moving forward. Fortunately 2008 is a ways off yet with a 2006 election coming next.
Mike Pence-as a darkhorse. Come out of the woodwork with his Reaganesque personality and views. He has a perfect balance of being pro-free trade but opposing open borders. Can satisfy libertarians, paleocons, AND neocons. "Breath of fresh air" would be the way to describe it.
Haley Barbour-excellent leadership in Katrina aftermath. MS is right now doing much better than LA is in the rescue-cleanup efforts.
George Allen-he's already been discussed quite a bit. Decent views but I'm concerned he's too much of a Senate "good-ol-boy" so I'm cautiously optimistic. Was a Governor before Senate so that helps. Very popular in Virginia.
The beast(s) must be stopped!
I think Haley Barbour (MS Gov) could also become a contender due to this. He has handled things in Mississippi much better than LA's idiot Dem governor.
...and take this MUST WIN and hope to keep moving forward.
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Yes, sadly, that is all we can do. The lesser of two evils and hope the RINOs don't keep sliding more to the left...or the Grand American experiment that our founders designed will have failed...
This sure sounds like '92 all over again.
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