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Katrina Live Threads, Part XV
Various ^ | 4 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/04/2005 6:14:35 PM PDT by NautiNurse

U.S. commercial air carriers continue transporting tens of thousands of evacuees from the New Orleans airport to destinations throughout the nation.

Rooftop air rescue efforts continue. One rescue chopper crashed late today. Crew members are reported safe. Gunmen who fired upon bridge repair contractors were killed by law enforcement.

To date, an estimated 70 countries and U.S. businesses have pledged hundreds of millions of dollars, supplies, food and equipment to assist the United States' efforts in Katrina's aftermath. Lt. General Honore described the damage to Mississippi today, "all infrastructure south of Jackson, MS is either damaged or destroyed." Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice visited the devastated areas, and attended Sunday church services in Mobile, Alabama.

Elsewhere, Sean Penn's rescue boat, sans plug and full of his personal entourage,reportedly sank during launch in New Orleans. Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA) threatened to punch President Bush, and Jefferson Parish President Broussard decried that the bureaucracy of FEMA has committed murder.

Links to various news, local and state government websites:

WLOX TV Biloxi, Gulfport, Pascagula has link to locate family and friends
2theAdvocate - Baton Rouge Includes Slidell, St. John Parish, St. Bernard Parish updates, and other locations.
NOLA.com
Inside Houma Today includes shelter and volunteer updates
WLBT.com Jackson MS
WALA Channel 4 Mobile, AL Includes links to distribution centers, Emergency Ops, etc.
Sun-Herald Gulfport MS Includes link to town by town reports
Gulfport News via Topix.net
WAFB Baton Rouge
Mobile Register via al.com
Mississippi updates via Jackson Ledger
Lafayette LA Daily Advertiser
Pensacola News Journal
St Bernard Local Government
Alabama Homeland Security Volunteers can sign up online
Alabama DOT
Alabama.gov
Louisiana Homeland Security
Louisiana State Police road closure info
State of Mississippi Website has traffic alerts, emergency contact numbers

New Orleans Emergency Operations Center - is now open:
504-463-1000
504-463-1001
504-463-1002

Streaming Video:

All information is subject to change. Many stations are relying on their corporate parents to configure and maintain Internet streaming. Because of the intense interest in the feeds, they may be unavailable at times because of network congestion or a problem feeding the video to the streaming servers.

WWL-TV New Orleans - WWL-TV is operating from studios at Louisiana Public Broadcasting. CBS has a relay during the morning and afternoon. When available, use the CBS relay first as they have greater streaming capacity. They have a secondary stream from Yahoo. WWL-TV is also offering a special low-bandwidth audio-only stream for dial-up users.

WDSU-TV New Orleans - The news staff has started to return to temporary news studios near New Orleans. However, expect evening coverage from Hearst-Argyle sister stations WAPT Jackson and WESH Orlando when the New Orleans staff needs to take a break.


WGNO-TV New Orleans - New Orleans' ABC affiliate has returned to the air with WBRZ-TV and launched video streaming with continuous Katrina coverage.

WPMI-TV Mobile, AL - WPMI is webcasting from 5:30am - 10:30pm CDT. When off air, you can view pre-recorded reports on demand. This feed is often unreliable.

WKRG-TV Mobile, AL - This station is providing good coverage of the situation to the east in Mississippi and Alabama. However, the station is now signing off at around 10:30pm CDT like WWL and WPMI.

WJTV-TV Jackson, MS - The CBS affiliate in Jackson is providing live coverage for both the Jackson area and south Mississippi (knowing a lot of media in that area is off the air).


WFAA-TV Dallas, TX - WFAA-TV is here because Dallas is one of the evacuation cities.

United Radio From New Orleans: WWL-AM, WNOE-FM, "KISS-FM," WRNO-FM, WYLD-FM, and WJBO-AM (Clear Channel & Entercom) who have joined forces as United Radio From New Orleans, and they are streaming.

Gulf Coast Storm Network (Clear Channel Radio) - Clear Channel offers radio listeners across the gulf coast access to a simulcast emergency radio service. This service seems primarily focused on Alabama and Mississippi, but does cover Louisiana to some degree.

Related FR Threads:

FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread FReeper Check In thread
Discussion Thread - Hurricane Katrina - What Went Wrong?!?
Post Hurricane Katrina IMAGES Here
Katrina Link Archives Nice work by backhoe
Mary Landrieu-"I'll Punch Bush"
Sean Penn's Rescue Bid Sinks
Hurricane Katrina HOUSING Thread
Martial Law Declared in New Orleans


Due to the number of requests to assist, the following list of some charities is provided.
This is not intended as an endorsement for any of the charities.

www.redcross.org or 1-800 HELP NOW - note: website is slow, and lines are busy
Salvation Army - 1-800-SAL-ARMY or Salvation Army currently looking for in-state volunteers - (888)363-2769
Operation Blessing: (800) 436-6348.
America's Second Harvest: (800) 344-8070.
Catholic Charities USA: (800) 919-9338, or www.catholiccharitiesusa.org.
Christian Reformed World Relief Committee: (800) 848-5818.
Church World Service: (800) 297-1516 or online at www.churchworldservice. org.
Lutheran Disaster Response: (800) 638-3522.
Nazarene Disaster Response: (888) 256-5886.
Presbyterian Disaster Assistance: (800) 872-3283.
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is accepting donations at its 3,800 stores and Web site, www.walmart.com.
National Black Home Educators Resource Association http://www.nbhera.org/ Southern Baptist: NAMB - http://www.namb.net/
Samaritan's Purse - http://www.samaritanspurse.org/

Previous Threads:
Katrina Live Thread, Part XIV
Katrina Live Thread, Part XIII
Katrina Live Thread, Party XII
Katrina Live Thread, Part XI
Katrina Live Thread, Part X
Katrina Live Thread, Part IX
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part V
Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm 12



TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: aftermath; cary; enoughalready; hurricane; katrina; leveefunding; notbreakingnews
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To: Peach

Heard this afternoon that Greece has offered two cruise ships too.


2,881 posted on 09/05/2005 6:29:15 PM PDT by NautiNurse (The task before us is enormous, but so is the heart of America.)
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To: Letitring

WHOOO HOOOOOO!!!!! Thanks for checking in. :)


2,882 posted on 09/05/2005 6:29:25 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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To: pollyg107

Way to go!!!!! You are doing great----and I love that you are posting these updates to us.

Make an appointment to get gas, huh? Genius...that is a good idea.

I am so glad that things are going better for you...and will pray that you find some of the missing people alive and well, real soon..

Please keep us up to date on your "adventures"...ok?


2,883 posted on 09/05/2005 6:29:47 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: sissyjane

Republican Senator from LA that did the near impossible by winning, like, 51%? of the vote last year avoiding a runoff that LA has if someone doesn't have a majority of the vote for a candidate.

And a severe disappointment proving himself to be just another politician looking to save his own skin then stand for Truth and the people that could have used someone interested in saving them, over casting blame.


2,884 posted on 09/05/2005 6:29:57 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Barbour/Honore in '08)
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To: Peach

I was just looking at pics of the aftermath at the Superdome a couple of hours ago on one of the cable stations. I pity those that have the responsibility of cleaning that place up.


2,885 posted on 09/05/2005 6:30:03 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: LA Woman3

School buses will be rolling in the am. I wonder if they have been washed, inside and out.


2,886 posted on 09/05/2005 6:30:20 PM PDT by Ellesu (www.thedeadpelican.com)
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To: Peach

I have thought for a long time that Bush should have Karen Hughes become his PR person....she is good!


2,887 posted on 09/05/2005 6:31:04 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Letitring
Hiya !    


2,888 posted on 09/05/2005 6:31:07 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: OKIEDOC
I make no assumptions and do not apologize for taking shots at Jessie, Big Al, NAACP and Congressional Black Congress and liberal race baiting enablers.

No apology necessary. I can't stand any of them either. I just wanted to say that black and white will pull together to help out. You know, normal people ;-) The MSM is just doing what they're paid to do. Spin and spit on the President. I either mute, or read posts here.

2,889 posted on 09/05/2005 6:31:38 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: Letitring

Welcome back! Another ray of sunshine...prayers answered.


2,890 posted on 09/05/2005 6:31:40 PM PDT by NautiNurse (The task before us is enormous, but so is the heart of America.)
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To: Cedar; podkane; Howlin
Confusion once again.

It is a little early for a thorough post-mortem analysis, but a couple of thoughts come to mind.

To be sure, at least so far, FEMA has not performed as expected, but in some cases neither have the States or local communities. The President, who seemed to be in a surly mood at the time, admitted as much publicly. Others in this Forum are better equipped than I to describe how the President could step in and take over and federalize portions of Louisiana, without the consent of the Governor of that State. While the President formally offered that option to the Governor on Friday last, we do not know exactly when that offer was first made, verbally or otherwise. Given the critical nature of the assets in New Orleans and nearby it may have well been presented as an option early on. One can certainly speculate that the protection of the Port of New Orleans, the economic highway that is the Mississippi, and critical energy infrastructure in the Gulf region is a national security concern. As it turned out, a couple of days after the hurricane hit land it was apparent the infrastructure of the oil and gas facilities in the Gulf and land based facilities were fairly intact, with some exceptions, e. g., refineries outages in LA and pumping stations in MS without power. The major reason those assets were secured relatively quickly was due to the actions of the Coast Guard and private oil and gas operators in the Gulf area. As an aside, I must commend the Coast Guard for their performance. Their efforts to secure the Port of New Orleans, the offshore docking facilities, shipping lanes to the Gulf, and search and rescue operations was and is outstanding.

Although I have not been active on this Forum very long, I have been very critical, in other settings, of the way FEMA was set up many years ago in 1974. I have also been critical of the fashion in which the Homeland Security Department was set up intially.

The major events leading to the consolidation of federal emergency relief operations prior to the establishment of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), were the string of disasters that occurred in the 1960's and early 1970's that overwhelmed State governments.At the time the Stafford Act was passed in 1974, the major points of debate centered around what responsibilities the States would retain given the proposed structure and what cost sharing arrangements would be put in place to supplement State funds in the event of a disaster. What followed was a five year debate on just those questions resulting in the creation of FEMA in 1979. In 1979, at the request of the National Governors Association, President Carter, by executive order, consolidated many agencies responsible for disaster related activities. The FEMA regime continued from there on with some minor adjustments until after the turn of the century. Then an event occurred which finally changed at least the focus of disaster relief. We all know what that event was, 9-11. This milestone and the response that followed pointed to the major flaws in the FEMA system and other Federal functions associated with disaster response. The key words here are assets, security, command and control.

In the State of Louisiana there is one major department that reports to the Governor that is charged with providing relief and security in a disaster scenario. The head of that department is the Adjutant General of the State of Louisiana. In addition to his duties as Commander of the Louisiana National Guard, the AG also has the title of Director of the Louisiana Military Department of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness. Thus, the Governor has single level command and control over both security and disaster relief. We can debate at a later time whether this type of organization is better than others, or was effective in responding to the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

In the State of Mississippi the Adjutant General and Executive Director of the Mississippi Emergency Management Agency are separate, cabinet level departments with both reporting directly to the Governor.

IMHO: The Federal Government is not a bottomless cookie jar, whereby each State can whine to the Feds., saying over and over again, gimmie, gimmie, gimmie. The Governors and officials in those States are responsible for the security of their citizens. The Federal Government can help whenever it can, but the Governors of the respective States must take responsibility for their own actions. If you can't stand the heat, try some other line of work like baking cookies.
2,891 posted on 09/05/2005 6:31:48 PM PDT by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: Peach

I don't know, as long as they are in the "normal" cruise setup - cabins, meals, etc - and they don't turn the cruise ship into a floating superdome, they should be OK. I would focus on just sending women and children to the cruise ships, the security situation will be much better that way.


2,892 posted on 09/05/2005 6:31:55 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Peach

Did he actually read the "warning" letter?


2,893 posted on 09/05/2005 6:32:15 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: mystery-ak

Yessssssss, we are mostly okay.

Our town has doubled in size but the police force remains the same. Supplies are in very short supply. Lines long, and it seems we have many new citizens.

Take a book when you go for gasoline.

Our temporary red cross shelters have become more, um, shall we say long term?


2,894 posted on 09/05/2005 6:33:26 PM PDT by Letitring
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To: Seattle Conservative

Apparently the woman was in a rest home in St Bernard Parish. Her son should have evacuated her before the hurricane . If not he should have made his way there and rescued her. third how did she survive the week and then "drownded"? Was there some new higher flood waters?While I sympathize with anyone who lost a loved one, espcially a mother, the story seems suspect to me...Oh having phone contact was pretty lucky too...


2,895 posted on 09/05/2005 6:34:35 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: fr33p3r
“The military is there anyway on the principle: 'It's better to beg forgiveness than ask permission.' Federal troops can't do law enforcement. So they are being creative. National Guard will embed in active military units and be there to make actual arrests. That's very similar to what has been done in past hurricanes and the Coast Guard has done the same thing with the Navy in the past.”

Just WOW. The whole post is required reading.

BTW, my CG unit was under Navy command during my year in Nam. Worked just fine.

2,896 posted on 09/05/2005 6:34:48 PM PDT by CedarDave (MLKing, Jr: "I have a dream!", Howard Dean: "I have a scream!", Jesse Jackson: "I have a scheme!")
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To: Soul Seeker

Thanks. I remembered right after I hit send.

What a pansy he's turned out to be.


2,897 posted on 09/05/2005 6:35:04 PM PDT by sissyjane
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To: WoodstockCat
I think that is true. I chastised Joe Scarborough and received a first-ever email reprimanding me for injecting politics into this disaster.
2,898 posted on 09/05/2005 6:35:25 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Peach

You have never lied! I've never seen anything like it! Groan, the stories I could tell!!!!!!!!!


2,899 posted on 09/05/2005 6:35:34 PM PDT by Letitring
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To: NautiNurse

OMH, now Nagin wants to ride the coattails of the Prez when he was selling him out just a couple days ago. This is going to get good. LOL


2,900 posted on 09/05/2005 6:36:14 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Barbour/Honore in '08)
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