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HURRICANE KATRINA- archive of links
various FR links & stories | 09-02-05 | the heavy equipment guy

Posted on 09/02/2005 3:35:55 AM PDT by backhoe

 To view all related posts, use the "keyword database"--
KEYWORDS: AFTERMATH; HURRICANE; KATRINA; TROPICAL;
 
 Katrina Live Thread, Part XIII
 
 Previous Threads:
Katrina Live Thread, Party XII
Katrina Live Thread, Part XI
Katrina Live Thread, Part X
Katrina Live Thread, Part IX
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part V
Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
 
And a special hattip to our own  NautiNurse  who started and maintained the above valuable posts--
 
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First off, let's debunk and defang the myth, meme, shibboleth and current hot talking point that "It's ALL Bush's Fault"--
 I have heard many leftists say that Bush slashed $20 million from FEMA funds that would have been used to reinforce the levee system in New Orleans.
 
MSM: Take Note - Clinton's Contribution to the Katrina Disaster ( Must Read )
Source:
 The Federal Register ^
 People have been talking for years about what would happen should a hurricane this size hit that city, and I'd be willing to bet you there were lots of federal dollars passed from hand to hand over the years to prepare for this.
I will be astounded if some of those reporters don't ask the obvious questions: Where did the money go, why weren't officials prepared? It's not like it was a secret this could happen someday.
 Bill Clinton did not sign for the improvements & money requested by the Army Corp of Engineers & LA to make them. Source:  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1474591/posts?page=77#77 
 
Q.3. Why only Category 3 protection?
A.3. That is what we were authorized to do. [Answer by the Corps of Engineers]
 http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/083005cccawwlunwatering.45718845.html
 There are already the accusations that federal money was diverted away from improving NO's levee system for other purposes, likely the war.Yes, Sidney Blumenthal already planted that political urban press using the foreign press to launder out the Clinton fingerprints. The way to shoot it down is to explain that the fed money was there but because LA refused to put up any of the state matching funds that were required by law before the fed money could be spent. Since LA made it clear for several years that they weren't going to provide those matches and expected the feds to pay 100%, the money was diverted to other needs, of which there were many.
 
 
Critics Say Bush Undercut New Orleans Flood Control -- Hint to the Liberals --This is NOT a road you want to go down --Shall we open up the books to the BILLIONS of dollars that was sent to NO and what happened to it all?
 Even with full funding in recent years, none of the flood-control projects would have been completed in time to prevent the swamping of the city, as Democrats yesterday acknowledged.
 
 
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What is worse, this danger was known about, and written about, and studied, for years:
 The Lost City of New Orleans? (Dec 2000)
 
 NASA Flooding Simulation
 
 2004 Amazingly Precise Prediction of New Orleans Disaster -- This was entirely predictable and inevitable to anyone who has followed the issue.
 
 
 
 
  Click on the thumbnail to open full picture in a new window.



This is a 1998 modelling of a CAT 4 or CAT 5 moving through New Orleans-- Here is what they predicted for flooding....
http://www.nola.com/hurricane/content/katrina_projected_flooding082805.pdf

 Apocalypse Live (Description of a category 4 or 5 hurricane from three weeks ago)

 Gone with the Water -- Published last fall - eerie... 

 Drowning New Orleans -- Scientific American ^ | October 2001 |

 From Jeff Master's weather blog on http://www.wunderground.com
"I'd hate to be an Emergency Management official in New Orleans right now. Katrina is pretty much following the NHC forecast, and appears likely to pass VERY close to New Orleans. I'm surprised they haven't ordered an evacuation of the city yet. While the odds of a catastropic hit that would completely flood the city of New Orleans are probably 10%, that is way too high in my opinion to justify leaving the people in the city. -- posted on 08/27/2005 8:04:52 PM EDT

 
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Here are the pictures:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 http://sigmund.biz/kat/index.html has the archives of both the cam and camera shots taken from just before the hurricane to today. (it takes quite a while to load unless you have wide broadband.)
 
 
 
 
Complete Aerial Picture Survey of Mississippi Coast Damage
 
 
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...and here is contact information for those trying to get information:
 
 
 
 Food for the Hungry , is a good solid Christian relief organization with VERY LOW Administration cost. Approx 93% of contributions go to actual relief.
 Don't know if anyone has posted this yet, but here is a website for people to leave messages letting loved ones know they are OK or to post the names of people they are in search of: Katrina Check-In
 
 
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In roughly reverse chronological order, here are the best links  I have culled since this story broke:
 
 
New Orleans in Anarchy With Fights, Rapes (Blanco gives shoot to kill order?) -- Wow!
When guns are outlawed, only the government and outlaws will have guns.
 
 Tourists Realize They're Afterthought, Band Together
 
 New Orleans radio system flooded -- "I'm absolutely astounded by the degree and pervasiveness of the incompetence and malfeasance at both the municipal as well as state goernment level in this disaster." -- if you've been watching the Governor,  the mayor and police chief  the past few days ...... to call them "incompetent" is an insult to incompetents.
 
 
 Instant Haiti.
 Water May Linger for Months (New Orleans, "Gone With the Wind?"
 
 Levee repair work has yet to begin (Another Levee Break - 700ft wide NOLA will take 3-6 mos to dry) -- Would the last person to swim out of NOLA please bring the flag?
 NOLAntis. The Lost City.

  Masques of Death (A sewer of applied liberalism, New Orleans was lawless long before this week.)

New Orleans in Anarchy With Fights, Rapes -- Politicizing a tragedy? No, teaching valuable lessons, if they dare.
 
 Ted Koppel blames Bush for failure to evacuate poor prior to the Katrina hitting New Orleans -- Dateline pretty much did the same thing. ABC has a Meme and it is the new strategy of the Left... use the disaster to crucify the President.
It is obscene.
 
 
The Katrina syndrome: What a hurricane can teach -- I didn't really enjoy the article until the end..when he compared how they everyone the warnings about levees and sea levels and hurricanes, etc., until disaster struck....and then it was too late.
And when he then compared that to the border issue, and how the signs are all there, but nobody in the government cares to do anything about it. And when they do, it will be too late.
 
 The Great Society our welfare System has Created.

 Gasoline Prices & Katrina

 Hurricanes, Hatred and Hypocrisy

Don't blame Katrina
 
 Ford blasts Bush’s handling of Hurricane Katrina -- The Governor of LA is supposed to be coordinating with FEMA, isn't she?
Yep. But she has vanished. She can't go on television without bawling like a baby, so her handlers are hiding her.
 You asked, "What in the world is wrong with the governor??"
She's so afraid of doing something wrong that she can't do anything right. You can see her "deer in the headlights" look on television. She's an incompetent political hack thrown into a nightmare situation and she's just frozen.
 
 
Rebuilding New Orleans doesn't make sense
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1475129/posts
 
 New Orleans, the Tragedy -- This is the article from which Rush quoted in the first hour of his show today.
 
 
 Shephard Smith "Grandstanding" in New Orleans, showing dead bodies on Fox News. -- "Personally, I don't think the networks should have 'saved us' from the horrors of 9-11 as they did. Perhaps if the reality of that situation had been known then people wouldn't have so easily forgotten."
Amen to that! I agree 100%! If they had show the real carnage, people would be supporting our troops now, instead of low-lifes like Cindy Sheehan.
 
 
 The global warming crowd says it's Bush's fault.

The Zionist Christians say it's Bush's fault.

The Islamist Jihadists say it's Bush's fault.

The Democrats say it's Bush's fault.

Millions of idiots can't be wrong.

 Thousands Feared Drowned in New Orleans -- I've never seen such poor planning and leadership in my life. the Mayor and Governor should be tarred & feathered. This is just inexcusable, unbelievable incompetence.

 Heart of America: Common People Doing Heroic Things

Thought-provoking opinion:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1474387/posts?page=106#106
" In my opinion, the time for optimism has passed. New Orleans did not dodge a bullet, New Orleans suffered a worst case doomsday scenario. But this is far far bigger than New Orleans alone.
By my count, America has lost not one city, but nine of them. "
 
 
 Read this great rant from Pukin Dog then, no typing required --
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1474141/posts
 
 
 
 Storm may shut refineries for months -- Keep the EPA multiple gas blend suspension in force, suspend the federal & state gas taxes indefinitely, start importing from IRAQ, drill - drill - drill where the caribou roam & wherever else it is geologically promising, start building refineries & identical nuke plants (one thing the French have done right), start using our vast coal supply by building liquification/gasification plants.

 Turn Bases into Refineries part 2 -- This is a excellent idea, which will help the LONG term problem (just like building 10 new nuke power plants).
For SHORT term help, suspend taxes on gas for 90 days, suspend requirements for 40 different blends of gas for the nation, pass legislation to end lawsuits against MTBE's (which the enviro-weenies are responsible for in the first place), proclaim closed military bases as "refinery empowerment zones", where they will have a 100 year lease on the land, be shielded against environmental lawsuits, and not taxed for 10 years.

  Analysts see Katrina as `perfect storm' for already high energy prices -- We own all of the oil sitting underneath Iraq. Why aren't we pumping it for ourselves? Gas should be 50¢ a gallon. We also own tons of oil up in the arctic. To hell with the environmental wackos - start drilling!

Timeline as best as I can quickly reconstruct from the earlier Katrina threads (times are CDT) -
3,827 posted on 08/31/2005 2:12:02 AM EDT by steveegg
 
 Katrina Packing Wind of Nearly 175 Mph (Mayor irresponsible in evac delay) -- To: Howlin
For future reference, this repeated line by the mayor and governor that "We went to bed Friday night being told it was a Florida storm, and woke up Saturday to find us threatened" to excuse why they waited so long to start the evacuation plan is total bullshit. (excuse my French)

Friday 4pm NO time report from the NWS, warns of a significant shift west, Mississippi landfall (88.5 on the grid, NO is 90), and possible more movement expected (post #388):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1471043/posts?page=388#388


By at least Friday 6pm computer models were converging on LA (post #478):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1471043/posts?page=478#478


Turns out those computer models had been run at 2pm (post #526):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1471043/posts?page=526#526


In fact some computer models run at 7am NO time Friday had predicted a NO hit(post #224):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1471043/posts?page=224#224

So unless the gov and mayor went to bed Friday afternoon, they knew then that it likely was headed their way.
 
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 I wonder if someone should start a tread for ideas on how we can all prepare ourselves for a disaster like this?  Go to the Threat Matrix threads. LOTS of information.
 Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Twenty-Two
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/preparedsurvivalistsunite2/?yguid=95479470
 
 Emergency Kit
 

Travel Pack --- BOB (Bug Out Bag)

(These items should be packed in portable "duffle bags" ready to go)

• 1-qt water per person
• Identification (copies of records/cd
• 2-"energy bars" per person
• Dehydrated food pack for one week dried fruit, vegetables, meat flour, oil, salt, pepper, spices vitamins, honey,peanut butter crackers, protein powder, powder milk
• Collapsible 5 ga. Water containers
• "Water washer" filter
• Lightweight cook kit large pot, dishes, spoons, forks knives, cups, non-stick skillet spatula, can opener, large spoon
• Towels
• 2-water proof nylon tarps
• Change of clothes for each person
• Coats,
• 1-thermal blanket
• 1-sleeping bag / person
• Matches, fire starter
• Compass, maps of areas of intended use
• 2-rechargeable/shakable flashlights
• 12v trouble light w/@cig. lighter plug
• First aid kit
• Toilet paper,
• Soap
• 1-pocket knife
• 1-fishing kit
• 1-large bowie knife (western cutlery) (perfectly weighted to serve as both fire knife and hatchet etc)
• 1-small portable mt. Climber's stove
• 1-back pack with frame
• Paper, pencil
• Signaling mirror
• 1-manual flashlight
• Whistle , portable cable saw
• Small bottle of bleach, insect repellent.
• Magnifying glass
• 100 ft. 1/2 dia. Goldline rope,
• 2 pulleys
• 50 ft. Nylon "shroudline" cord
• .22 caliber pistol w/ 500 rds. Ammo.

There are many, many variations of this Bug Out Bag. Some place more reliance on ‘defense’, property, records.

Seems one should prepare according to their own specific needs, location. Here's some info, left over from the Y2K 'scare' and survivalists
FYI …Google Search for Bug Out Bag = BOB

4,210 posted on 09/01/2005 1:37:35 PM EDT by Stand Watch Listen
 
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 Discussion Thread - Hurricane Katrina - What Went Wrong?!?


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Amid rising chaos, fear spreads in rural Louisiana

41 posted on 09/04/2005 6:27:25 AM PDT by backhoe
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1476694/posts

Time line with documentation.

Mayor and Gov had to be begged to evacuate.

much more.
87 posted on 09/04/2005 11:47:35 AM EDT by TASMANIANRED

42 posted on 09/04/2005 10:09:39 AM PDT by backhoe
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 (Vanity) Freepers lets get the facts together
 
 Airlift Rescues Thousands from Hurricane Stricken Areas
 
 Why Are Louisiana Politicians Crying Like Little Babies In Front of Microphones and Cameras?
 
 New Orleans district U.S. Army Corps of Engineers faces reduction - in fiscal 2006 (Ivan flashback)
 
 A New Low For The MSM? -- Well, the MSM is working. My mostly Republican church is rapidly turning against Bush. Just the stuff I was overhearing in the parking lot was stunning.
 
 U.S. vows to end New Orleans' violent crime wave
 
 EQUINE RESCUE GROUP HELPING LOUISIANA'S HORSES
 
 Mississippians' suffering overshadowed
 
 Survival Preparedness
 
 Gov. Kathleen Blanco: No State of Emergency
 
 The Ugly Truth - Why we couldn’t save the people of New Orleans
 
 Mary Landrieu: I'll Punch Bush, 'Literally'
 Email Your Senators

43 posted on 09/04/2005 10:28:33 AM PDT by backhoe
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 Vanity -- a firsthand report from someone in New Orleans -- Here's a blogsite I came across from New Orleans. directNIC:Intercosmos
 
 Red Cross sets up Family Links Registry for Katrina missing . Can be used to look for a loved one, or register a missing loved one to ask for info
 
 KATRINA: RESPONSE TIMELINE 
 
 THE quote of the disaster! SUPPRESSED BY ALL NEWS OUTLETS!  
 
 They have the video of the Nagin interviews... http://www.2theadvocate.com/
 Scroll down to the middle of the page

Kuwait donates $500 mln oil products for Katrina
Qatar Offers $100 Million in Hurricane Aid
Mexico ready to send aid for Katrina relief
U.S. Asks EU, NATO for Hurricane Aid
Hastert: Rebuilding below sea level senseless

 
 Broussard's breakdown on Meet the Press today.
 
 The predatory violence and anarchy befalling New Orleans is not the result of a freak convergence of forces brought on by unnatural disaster.
 It's a warning.  
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/002593.html
 
 The full article is at:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/weather_katrina_crime_dc
 
 She hired Witt AGAIN? LINK: June 3, 2004: IEM Team to Develop Catastrophic Hurricane Disaster Plan for New Orleans & Southeast Louisiana
 As was said on the other thread, that 500,000 hurricane evac plan didn't work out too well. So their response is to RE-HIRE him??
 
 
 Tumult in Gulf Region but Little Early Effect Across the Nation
 
 Louisiana Senator Threatens President Bush
 
 The Untouchable Corps
 
 TRUDEAUPIATE: Anarchy in N.O. is a Warning
 
 NOLA Warning: Thieves Pretend to be 'Procurement Officers' (FEMA Badges, Uniforms Stolen)
 
 My hero is a bus thief - Houston Chronicle (Priceless Photo)
 
 Katrina Evacuees Distraught Over Pets

44 posted on 09/04/2005 1:30:00 PM PDT by backhoe
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 Police Kill Five on La. Bridge(UPDATE CONTRACTORS WERE SHOT AT: THE NOPD shot BAD GUYS) -- "The police shot at a gang of 8 or 9 people who were themselves shooting at 14 contractors attempting to cross the bridge. No contractors were killed. 5 gang bangers were killed. This is the most decent accomplishment of the NOPD yet!"
 
 FEMA Knew Storm's Potential, Mayfield (Hurricane Ctr) Says
 
 Why Didn't Louisiana Follow it's Required Emergency Plan? -- Wonderful work! I have been looking for a single coherent list of local government failings (with timeline) to reference while arguing with Dems on other forums. Thanks for the help.
 
 Aug 27 WhiteHouse release of aid to Louisiana
 
 Katrina Takes Aim -- I had forgotten that a state of emergency was called BEFORE THE STORM EVEN HIT
 It was Bush that asked the Gov and Mayor to order a mandatory evacuation, NOT their idea at all.
 
 Americandaughter.com: Katrina's timeline
 
 Landrieu Says State Was Prepared For Katrina - 8-28-05 -- Hey, didn't this woman just say she was going to punch Bush in the nose because New Orleans wasn't prepared?
 
 Not bugging out but staying and surviving
 
 DirectNIC Hurricane Katrina Photos
 
 A nice view of the famous school busses
 
 NY Times Calls Army Corps of Engineers $2.7 Billion Flood Control A "Boondoggle"
 
 Experts: Models predicted New Orleans disaster

45 posted on 09/04/2005 5:06:51 PM PDT by backhoe
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 The Bush administration sent Blanco a memorandum Friday evening requesting the federalisation of the LA NG.

Blanco -- well, her keepers at least -- turned it down.

This is all well-documented, right down to the time-stamp:

 
 Behind the scenes, a power struggle emerged, as federal officials tried to wrest authority from Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco (D). Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration sent her a proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the state's emergency operations center said Saturday.

The administration sought unified control over all local police and state National Guard units reporting to the governor. Louisiana officials rejected the request after talks throughout the night, concerned that such a move would be comparable to a federal declaration of martial law. Some officials in the state suspected a political motive behind the request. "Quite frankly, if they'd been able to pull off taking it away from the locals, they then could have blamed everything on the locals," said the source, who does not have the authority to speak publicly.

A senior administration official said that Bush has clear legal authority to federalize National Guard units to quell civil disturbances under the Insurrection Act and will continue to try to unify the chains of command that are split among the president, the Louisiana governor and the New Orleans mayor.

Louisiana did not reach out to a multi-state mutual aid compact for assistance until Wednesday, three state and federal officials said. As of Saturday, Blanco still had not declared a state of emergency, the senior Bush official said.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090301680.html
 
 
Press Release
Date: 8/26/2005
-- it looks like what the staffer told the WaPo (if he really did say what the WaPo says he said -- and I know that is a big if), was wrong on that particular detail See Link
 
 Nagin and Blanco were aware, I imagine, of this study:
 Citizen Hurricane Evacuation Behavior in Southeastern Louisiana: A Twelve Parish Survey Released by The Southeast Louisiana Hurricane Taskforce  July, 2005
 
 Blanco Refuses White House Request For Federal Paperwork On Friday -- go to the near bottom of the Washington Post article and see how K. Blanco thought it better to avoid Martial Law declared in her state than to save the lives of her people. --and - she is advised by the law firm of Clintoon's ex, former director Witt in how to avoid a "takeover"
 http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9189916
 
Hurricane Katrina: Don’t Blame Bush for Local Corruption and Democrat Incompetence --more--
http://mensnewsdaily.com/blog/malven/2005/09/hurricane-katrina-dont-blame-bush-for.html
 There is a thread running right now that states that most of the federal moneys allocated for levee security were redirected by the corrupt mayor and city council and used to build CASINOS!
 "The more I see, and the more I read, I am beginning to believe that BLANCO should be held CRIMINALLY responsible."
 The evident incompetence of this woman is one reason the Democrats are loudly blaming Bush.
 Bingo. The fools pi$$ed away their levee money buying everything BUT levees.
 
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 Cached Katrina news reports BEFORE landfall (Aug 27-Aug 29) -- Thanks for putting this together. In light of the activity on Saturday the 27th, it is interesting that the New York Times ran not a single article on Hurricane Katrina the day before it struck (the 28th). This, despite the paper's editorial claim that "everyone knew [the disaster] was coming." I have the rather amusing details up on my blog.
 
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 Katrina Live Threads, Part XV -- The good news is that this week, the conservative radio talk show hosts across the country will start getting the truth out there. They are the "ace in the hole."
 
 OK, I thought I was nuts but I just confirmed it with my husband and our houseguest. We live in Eastern Kansas. I grew up in Texas and I know what the gulf smells like. I smell the gulf here once or twice a year depending on the wind and the weather and tonight, I smell Katrina. It's like the gulf only wet wood, and an almost rotten smell. It's not a smell I've ever smelled here. Our houseguest is from Switzerland. He says that they get sand from the Sahara once in a while so he believes me. So if you live in the midwest, go outside and think about it. Only a barbwire fence between here and there.
 
 
 Blanco Only Asked Fed Money For 6 Shelters B4 Katrina. LA Now has over 75 Open 7 Days Later -- Coordination: $0
Technical and advisory assistance: $0
Debris removal: $0
Emergency protective measures: $ 9,000,000
Individuals and Households Program (IHP): $0
Distribution of emergency supplies: $0
Other (specify): $0

Trying to pin this on George Bush: Priceless""
 
 

U.S. Army Chief Warrant Officer Dan Langdon, of Bravo Company 2-4 Aviation, 4th Infantry Division out of Fort Hood, Texas, comforts a stray dog after landing his Chinook helicopter, Saturday, Sept. 4, 2005 in New Orleans. The Chinook crew is flying missions in support of relief efforts for Hurricane Katrina and was waiting to begin their next mission.

6,795 posted on 09/04/2005 7:33:56 PM EDT by BurbankKarl (u)
 
 He Held Their Lives in His Tiny Hands -- OK, so now we've got a 6 year old who was more resourceful and smarter than the frikin mayor.
 
 After the Storm blog
 
 "The resolution is in contrast to a recent trip by Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco to Cuba where she had a lobster dinner with Fidel Castro. Governor Blanco's meeting with Castro has come under fire by Louisianans for failing to meet with dissidents, call for democratic reforms, release of political prisoners, freedom of the press, and respect for human rights."
http://www.asambleasociedadcivilcuba.info/CPrensa/CANF.htm
 
 Hurricane Pam Exercise Concludes
 Release Date: July 23, 2004
 
 A look at refugee situation around U.S.
 
 I am happy to see that Sheehan witch and Aruba off the air - but would suffer through Cindy witch and Aruba a thousand times over if it would mean Katrina didn't swamp the Gulf Coast as she did.
 
Timeline:
 http://www.miami.com/multimedia/miami/news/archive/katrinatimeline/index.html
 
 
 
 
 Hurricane Relief (Astrodome Slideshow You Won't See on MSM)
 
 N.O. Mayor Resonsible For AT LEAST 20-30,000 Stranded Due To Failure To Issue Bus Demand
 
 Lack of Automobility Key to New Orleans Tragedy
 
 Who's Really to Blame for Katrina Chaos?

Super Typhoon Tip had a diameter of 1350 miles while Cyclone Tracy had a diameter of 30 miles. Which one would cause more damage if it hit land? I bring this point up because Hurricane Katrina was more powerful than the general definition of a Category 4 storm. In fact it was the 3rd most powerful storm to hit the US since the listings were started and the fourth storm to be recorded as a Category 5 storm (about one every 30 years on average).

(Equivalent sizes if placed over the US)

It is important to consider this when we realize that New Orleans was designed to handle a general Category 3 storm. There was no possible way it could have handled a direct hit from a general Category 4 storm. But Katrina was not a general Category 4 storm. It is also important to realize that New Orleans expected a general Category 4 storm or higher to hit on average once every 300 years. For a storm the size of Katrina, it might only hit once every 1000 years

 

 Seems to me that thousands of people owe their lives to the competence and compassion of President Bush.

Why Was New Orleans Evacuated?
Power Line, MN - 2 hours ago
... Gov. Kathleen Blanco, standing beside the mayor at a news conference, said President Bush called and personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation for the low ...
 
Looters Take To Streets; Martial Law Declared
New Orleans Channel.com, LA - Aug 30, 2005
... Gov. Blanco said President George W. Bush called and personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation for the low-lying city, which is prone to flooding. ...
 
New Orleans Mayor Issues Evacuation Order
Guardian Unlimited, UK - Aug 28, 2005
... Blanco said President Bush called and personally appealed for the mandatory evacuation for the city, which sits below sea level.
 
Nightmare named Katrina bears down on New Orleans
KTBS, LA - Aug 28, 2005
... all flights. Gov. Kathleen Blanco said President Bush called and personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation for the low-lying.

Category 5 Katrina barrels toward New Orleans

KansasCity.Com (Knight Ridder)
National Hurricane Center Director Max Mayfield in Miami called Nagin at home Saturday night and told him: "Get people out of New Orleans. I could never sleep if I felt like I didn't do everything that I could to impress upon people the gravity of the situation," Mayfield said. "New Orleans is never going to be the same."
 
 French Quarter Holdouts Create 'Tribes'
 
 IEM to Lead Development of Hurricane Plan for Louisiana (Well, well, well lookie here..)
 
 An Unnatural Disaster: A Hurricane Exposes the Man-Made Disaster of the Welfare State -- As God is my witness, I would not have sat stranded on a concrete island for five days hopelessly waiting to die without doing anything to help myself. I really don't get how people could not care enough to want to survive.
 
 Nagin said slow response cost lives (Mayor Nagin slams Gov. Blanco)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1477598/posts
 
 George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People ILLUSTRATED
 
 New Orleans Begins Counting its Dead (While Decadence Parade Held in French Quarter) -- And we are talking about rebuilding that cesspool?  Once everyone is evacuated out of N.O., I'm really hoping Mother Nature will finish it off with another hurricane. That's right folks, I'm not the least bit interested in rebuilding that cesspool...
 
 Is this a joke?
 Nagin to Offer Free Trips to Las Vegas for N.O. Officers -- I've been told that 2/3rds didn't show up when the Mayor put out a belated all hands on deck.  Michelle Malkin has an interview with a general who says more than two thirds deserted.
 We need one reporter to ask Nagin, "If a 16 year old who has never driven a bus could take ONE of your buses and save 75 people, why couldn't you do the same?"
 
 Dutch anti-flood plans to be reviewed
 
 Start your food storage on $10 a week
 
 What is the best weapon for my wife?
 
 

Grim outlook for 4 Gulf Coast refineries
 
 
 Officials: Its going to be 'ugly' --  On the seventh day, the mayor of New Orleans said he would surrender control of his shattered, nearly abandoned city --The Mayor lost control of his city the minute he chose to condone looting.
 
 MSM: Blamestorming Under the Radar (More proof the NYT is concerned only with blaming Bush) -- Aug. 28th, CNN: Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that President Bush had called and urged the state to order the evacuation.

46 posted on 09/05/2005 5:09:07 AM PDT by backhoe
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 Katrina: A Point by Point Refutation of the Left's Talking Points (Vanity)
47 posted on 09/05/2005 5:17:34 AM PDT by backhoe
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 What Kind of New Orleans Will Be Rebuilt?(I hope to higher ground this time.)
 
 The New Orleans Chaos, Ayn Rand and a Possible Atlas Shrugged Movie
 
 Rescuers in New Orleans encounter violence, other obstacles - drinking, looting, shooting
 
 Katrina-isms
 
 No Good Deed Goes Unpunished as Today Show Now Frets Too Many Troops in New Orleans

48 posted on 09/05/2005 5:38:41 AM PDT by backhoe ("The Drowned World" John Brunner)
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" SPEAKING TRUTH TO HYSTERIA "-- However, you all need to go back and read this admittedly lengthy post that reviews, dissects and lays out in plain English the history and steps taken by the various parties leading up to and responding to the Katrina disaster. Read it, bookmark it, print it out, have it ready to use in discussion when you talk to your liberal friends, and write your letters or emails to your newspaper and TV stations. Copy it and send it to Rush, Sean, Mark, Tony, Laura, etc.; in other words circulate it as widely as you can. --
 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1477440/posts?page=652#652
 
Greg Richey
September 4, 2005
652 posted on 09/05/2005 2:27:04 AM EDT by comitatus

49 posted on 09/05/2005 6:01:11 AM PDT by backhoe ("The Drowned World" John Brunner)
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 Levee upgrade would of taken 20-25 years(my title)
 
 The Big Easy's Style Is Uniquely American(And Gone With The Wind!)
 
 SPEAKING TRUTH TO HYSTERIA

50 posted on 09/05/2005 6:14:00 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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If this isn't in your compendium somewhere, it should be. The NY Times was against flood control, now they are for it.

"NY Times Ed Board: Fairweather Flood-Control Fans"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1477494/posts


51 posted on 09/05/2005 6:28:57 AM PDT by Rocky
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To: Rocky

I appreciate that link- thanks.


52 posted on 09/05/2005 6:30:46 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 SPEAKING TRUTH TO HYSTERIA
 
 America's Pompeii
 
 Special Report: Hurricane Katrina Damage Assessment (of Oil Rigs and Production)
 
 Why Didn't Nagin Follow His Own Plan?
 
Before & after NO:
 http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/new-orleans-imagery.htm
 
  The Soft Underbelly
 
 Press awe at Katrina aftermath
 
 Police Join Looting of New Orleans
 
 Wow!! Here is an amazing video clip from KSDK in St. Louis taken by two storm chasers at a Holiday Inn on the coast as Hurricane Katrina came blasting its way into Gulfport, Mississippi!

Watch the Video HERE

this video may not be available after September 5th
 
 In case you haven't seen this, somebody posted this to Little Green Footballs (my other favorite conservative site) and I wanted to make sure you have it:  Nagin's Security Czar
http://www.bestofneworleans.com/dispatch/2003-03-25/commentary.html
 
 Just what did the billions of dollars in Federal Homeland Security money give to the State of Louisiana and the City of New Orleans since 9-11 to manage this sort of disaster for the 72-96 hours FEMA directive tell them it will take for Federal Assistance to reach a disaster zone BUY the Federal Taxpayer's?
Indictments
also here:Dept of Justice
 Nov. 30, 2004 Audit
 Three state officials were indicted Monday on federal charges of covering up a misuse of federal funds intended to repair and prevent flood damage
 
 Re Clinton and flood control:

I think this is the post I remembered seeing.

I saw this while I was looking: White House Backpedals on Flood Control

 Here's a great website to explain the Feds' versus the State's resonsibilities, and also to lay out exemptions to certain things like "posse comitatus."

http://www.homelandsecurity.org/bulletin/Primer_ChallengestoPreventionandPreparedness.htm

 Neighbors Team Up To Provide Security (Second Amendment in Action)

 Katrina and the Second Amendment -- This is an 'in your face' validation of the Second Amendment. All of America and the entire world saw what the criminals were doing. There are many stories coming out where home and business owners saved their lives and property because they were armed.

 New Orleans Police Resting in Atlanta(while the military and others try to save lives and property) -- Mary Landrieu's reaction to the vacationing New Orleans cops:

"If President Bush calls these men back even one day early from their time off, I swear I'll drop kick him right through the goalposts of Louisiana State University. Literally."

 Tribes...A Bill Whittle Essay

 U.S. Appears to Have Avoided Massive Oil Supply Problems -- What is wrong with this picture: vast areas of the US are off limits to drilling known reserves, yet the Times frets we "depend" on foreign oil. This is illustrative of the type of thinking that spends millions on school buses to achieve racial balance in schools, yet cannot seem to use them to evacuate the parents of those students when necessary to save lives. It is thinking that has been dangerously corroded by liberal ideology.

 Thibodaux church sheltering pets

 Animals Face Urgent Threat After Katrina Strike, IFAW Responds

 They wouldn’t leave without their pets

Picture

David Meeks, sports editor for the New Orleans Times-Picayune, poses for a photo with his dog, Carson, outside The Courier’s office


53 posted on 09/05/2005 12:42:49 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 James Taranto: Myths of Hurricane Katrina
 
Read with caution- purported email from NOPD:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1477931/posts?page=16#16
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1477440/posts?page=1999#1999
 
 NEW ORLEANS FLASHBACK: OFFICALS WARNED RESIDENTS 'YOU'LL BE ON YOUR OWN'
 
 Closer Scrutiny Reveals the Lies Surrounding Katrina Evacuation and Recovery
 
 Video of Excellent Honore' Press Conf. (That's 'B.S')3:23
 
 Gulf Coast poisoned?
 
 Fox News mentions the Buses (vanity)
 
 300 HISD drivers, employees use buses to rescue victims
 
 Perry speaks out on Katrina (Compare Perry's response to Blanco's)
 
 Cindy’s Bus Tour Pals Leech Off Red Cross Katrina Effort
 
 Many of the Dead Never to Be Identified
 
 Catastrophe shows us 2 Americas -- What a load of HS. We were in Thailand during the Tsunami. What a contrast. People so poor that the living standards of "America's poorest residents", are very desirable and beyond reach, for the most part, pitched in and helped and were helped by "rich" tourists with no sign of class envy or sense of inferiority. What looting there was was of the sneak thief variety and usually of dead bodies' wallet and watch. No one was raped or shot even though the poor often have guns. Patience was shown in even difficult situations.
 
 Tropical Depression FIFTEEN Public Advisory
 
 Katrina Evacuees Distraught Over Lost Pets
 
 They Are Starting to Pump The Water Out of New Orleans (Via John Gibson on Fox News!)
 

54 posted on 09/05/2005 4:57:47 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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Master list here:

 HURRICANE KATRINA- archive of links

55 posted on 09/05/2005 4:59:35 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 Blanco Administration Caught in Scandal. Dem Website to Fool Citizens
56 posted on 09/05/2005 5:01:15 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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Blanco Administration Caught in Scandal. Dem Website to Fool Citizens -- Not only does the governor have a black mold problem in the Mansion, causing her to live in a rented house for the summer, but her offices in the State Capitol appear to have a plumbing problem, following the embarrassing leak of a confidential memo on how to deal with partisan opposition.
 Just ask Kathy how her Lobster Dinners were.
 
 WSJ/Henniger's: Katrina Lesson #1 -- Beaucracy Will Kill Us, Outsource to Private Sector
 
 Higher grocery bills in storm aftermath
 
 By late Sunday, what had emerged was a picture less to do with Washington, and far more to do with incompetence on the state and local level-- http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8699
 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1478211/posts
Mayor Nagin: Gov. Blanco Delayed Rescue
 

Hurricane Katrina victim George Talley, 28, of Bay St. Louis, shows a triage ticket emergency personnel have been using to classify the seriousness of victim's injuries

 Are you reading Ellesu's posts about the millions of dollars FEMA sent LA, that can't quite be accounted for. This is why the Clintons and their operatives are out there. They're trying to cover up what amounts to grand theft and criminal neglect, if not outright manslaughter. 

Remember this post from this week?

To: Seattle Conservative

I did a little research. New Orleans has spent 673 million over the last 10 years on: New basketball arena, New Vintage Trolley Care system and just recently appropriated 315 million for the convention center expansion. Seems they had the money, but chose to spend it on pork projects rather than the poor and helpless citizens of New Orleans. Google search New Orleans basketball arena and trolley rail system.

787 posted on 09/04/2005 2:20:32 PM EDT by Aquahawk
 
"Anyway, I found it very encouraging because despite the MSM's constant drumbeat of "it's Bush's fault" their message isn't taking. People, including many libs, can see right through it."

I've been finding the same thing. It has taken awhile, but people just ain't buying the MSM agenda anymore. Imagine what this country will be capable of when most of our population isn't brainwashed by the lying media.

3,363 posted on 09/06/2005 1:50:16 AM EDT by Rokke
 
 I just found this FR thread in regard to the 1996 election of LA Democrat Mary Landrieu for the Senate. It's easy reading. The first 5 or 6 very short paragraphs are a MUST read! I didn't even need to read the rest. Now we know how she was elected!
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/796352/posts
 
 

Baghdad on the Bayou

 Louisiana Politics Changed Forever

 New Orleans - Murder and rape - fact or fiction?

 Some evacuees see religious message in Katrina - distrust of white people dispelled - new life -- Our pastor pointed out the obvious. Federal, state, and local GOVERNMENTS have all experienced a massive loss of credibility. Now it's the Church's turn to step up to the plate...

FYI, FWIW:  first hand account from a NOLA resident and volunteer [Hurricane Katrina]

 Rapes in New Orleans Chaos Were Avoidable

 Checkout this Katrina Timeline, it is VERY interesting:  http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/09/04/katrina-response-timeline/

 SHOW: CNN LARRY KING LIVE 9:00 PM EST
August 28, 2005 Sunday  KING: How prepared is the city?
NAGIN: Pretty well preparedhttp://tinyurl.com/dmc83

 Small Town America Responds to Katrina

 This diseased city was sunk by benign neglect

 At least 84 held in Harrison County [Miss] on looting charges - face 5 years/$10,000.00 fine -- "One of our residents said, 'if you don't take care of these looting problems, we will,'" said Gautier City Manager Christy Wheeler."

 


Zoos Weather Katrina Well

 Fraud with NO Transit Authority? Where were those buses? -- NO, NO DON'T LOOK THERE! LOOK OVER HERE! IT'S BUSHES FAULT...

 Sean Penn on FOXNEWS: New Orleans had no bullhorns to get people out of their houses -- How come you, Penn, didn't put the drain plug in your rescue boat before launching it?? Stupid is as stupid does.
A shortage of bullhorns is responsible for the deaths in NO, in your opinion, huh? EUREKA!!!!! How come nobody has ever thought of that before?
You Hollywoodites just can't seem to comprehend that in the real world, there is no script, no retakes, no editing out. The first shooting is the only shooting and we live with the results.
You people earn excessive wages for pretending. You have portrayed a soldier a time or two for instance, and earned more for your efforts in just one movie, than a real soldier earns in his/her entire lifetime, assuming they live to collect their retirement bennies.
This country and the world would be better off if you pretenders stuck to your pretending, and relaxed in the lap of luxery that your earnings make possible and stay the hell out of the way of those struggling to keep this real world going.

 Flood waters displace snakes, rodents, ants

 Why Rebuild New Orleans?

 A Week After Storm, Levee Break Is Fixed

 New Orleans police break out of their 'Fort Apache' -- The more and more time goes by, I am absolutely convinced that FreeRepublic and or the forums, and the bloggers are way ahead of the news and events before every one else is...

 Police Looting Walmart (video of police looting, then trying to deny it)

 The Big Easy rocked, but didn't roll [Steyn Alert] -- Welfare culture is bad not just because, as in Europe, it's bankrupting the state, but because it enfeebles the citizenry, it erodes self-reliance and resourcefulness.

 Half of Damaged Refineries Near Restarting


57 posted on 09/06/2005 4:28:05 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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Am bookmarking. Thanks for doing the lifting, backhoe. And thanks to NN for maintaining the XV threads this past week.


58 posted on 09/06/2005 11:33:26 AM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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 Bodies found piled in freezer at Convention Center
 
 Gov. Blanco Received Multiple Calls From President Bush before, during and after Hurricane to help. -- As they try to change history, it is time to reflect on what Governor Blanco actually stated on the day of the flood...
 Let me help you assign blame:

 
 Katrina Updates Thread
 
 Saving Buildings and Homes After Katrina
 
 Volunteers try to reunite boy with dog
 
 Sad Story of Boy and His Dog Grips Nation
 
 After the Flood -- Robert Rector, of the Heritage Foundation, is probably the greatest authority on Johnson's grandiose scheme - the Great Society, he writes [emphasis added]:

"When President Lyndon Johnson launched the War on Poverty more than 30 years ago, he announced that it was an investment that would repay its cost to society many times over. Since that time, the United States has invested some $7.9 trillion in programs that provide cash, food, housing, and medical and social services to poor and low-income Americans. But while the nation was pouring this flood of resources into the War on Poverty most social problems got worse, not better. A deluge of illegitimacy, crime, drug abuse, and welfare dependency besieged American communities. The war on poverty failed." - Broadening The Reform, The Heritage Foundation, 2000 - Robert Rector

As Rector so rightly observes what we call poverty in the United States today is not classical poverty, today's poor drive new cars, do not go hungry, have access to medical care, own numerous color televisions and often own their own homes which are not in disrepair.

What affects today's poor is entrapment in a culture that encourages "...behavioral poverty...that heavily reinforced illegitimacy, divorce and non-work."

 Rush Limbaugh: Katrina's Lessons -- Rush is hitting it out of the park, as usual. The media will never criticize a liberal democrat mayor or governor, and especially a black one. Clinton had 8 years to fix levees but did nothing either, but will never be pointed out.

 Lying Senator Landrieu Responsible For Latest Katrina Hoax - Barf Alert

 Katrina Reveals Gas Price Folly

 Rush Limbaugh Show Thread September 6,2005

 MISSISSIPPI: In shattered town, man and dog survive ride of a lifetime

 New Orleans floods could have been twice as bad: colonel [Army on levee just after Katrina through]

 The dark side of black people

 The Mayor Who Failed His City-Ray Nagin shouted obscenities while New Orleans washed away


59 posted on 09/06/2005 12:03:41 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: bwteim

I overlooked your reply earlier-- thanks for stopping by.


60 posted on 09/06/2005 12:25:03 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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