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| 09-02-05
| the heavy equipment guy
Posted on 09/02/2005 3:35:55 AM PDT by backhoe
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Katrina Live Thread, Party XIIKatrina Live Thread, Part XIKatrina Live Thread, Part XKatrina Live Thread, Part IXHurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIIIHurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIIHurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIHurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VHurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IVHurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part IIIKatrina Live Thread, Part IIHurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
And a special hattip to our own
NautiNurse who started and maintained the above valuable posts--
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First off, let's debunk and defang the myth, meme, shibboleth and current hot talking point that "It's ALL Bush's Fault"--
I have heard many leftists say that Bush slashed $20 million from FEMA funds that would have been used to reinforce the levee system in New Orleans.
Source:
People have been talking for years about what would happen should a hurricane this size hit that city, and I'd be willing to bet you there were lots of federal dollars passed from hand to hand over the years to prepare for this.
I will be astounded if some of those reporters don't ask the obvious questions: Where did the money go, why weren't officials prepared? It's not like it was a secret this could happen someday.
Q.3. Why only Category 3 protection?
A.3. That is what we were authorized to do. [Answer by the Corps of Engineers]
There are already the accusations that federal money was diverted away from improving NO's levee system for other purposes, likely the war.Yes, Sidney Blumenthal already planted that political urban press using the foreign press to launder out the Clinton fingerprints. The way to shoot it down is to explain that the fed money was there but because LA refused to put up any of the state matching funds that were required by law before the fed money could be spent. Since LA made it clear for several years that they weren't going to provide those matches and expected the feds to pay 100%, the money was diverted to other needs, of which there were many.
Even with full funding in recent years, none of the flood-control projects would have been completed in time to prevent the swamping of the city, as Democrats yesterday acknowledged.
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What is worse, this danger was known about, and written about, and studied, for years:
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Here are the pictures:
http://sigmund.biz/kat/index.html has the archives of both the cam and camera shots taken from just before the hurricane to today. (it takes quite a while to load unless you have wide broadband.)
Complete Aerial Picture Survey of Mississippi Coast Damage
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...and here is contact information for those trying to get information:
Food for the Hungry , is a good solid Christian relief organization with VERY LOW Administration cost. Approx 93% of contributions go to actual relief.
Don't know if anyone has posted this yet, but here is a website for people to leave messages letting loved ones know they are OK or to post the names of people they are in search of: Katrina Check-In
Like I said, it's "Mogadishu on the Mississippi"
Hurricane Katrina Survivor Locator Boards
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In roughly reverse chronological order, here are the best links I have culled since this story broke:
New Orleans radio system flooded -- "I'm absolutely astounded by the degree and pervasiveness of the incompetence and malfeasance at both the municipal as well as state goernment level in this disaster." -- if you've been watching the Governor, the mayor and police chief the past few days ...... to call them "incompetent" is an insult to incompetents.
Instant Haiti.
NOLAntis. The Lost City.
Masques of Death (A sewer of applied liberalism, New Orleans was lawless long before this week.)
It is obscene.
The Katrina syndrome: What a hurricane can teach -- I didn't really enjoy the article until the end..when he compared how they everyone the warnings about levees and sea levels and hurricanes, etc., until disaster struck....and then it was too late.
And when he then compared that to the border issue, and how the signs are all there, but nobody in the government cares to do anything about it. And when they do, it will be too late.
Gasoline Prices & Katrina
Hurricanes, Hatred and Hypocrisy
Yep. But she has vanished. She can't go on television without bawling like a baby, so her handlers are hiding her.
You asked, "What in the world is wrong with the governor??"
She's so afraid of doing something wrong that she can't do anything right. You can see her "deer in the headlights" look on television. She's an incompetent political hack thrown into a nightmare situation and she's just frozen.
Amen to that! I agree 100%! If they had show the real carnage, people would be supporting our troops now, instead of low-lifes like Cindy Sheehan.
The global warming crowd says it's Bush's fault.
The Zionist Christians say it's Bush's fault.
The Islamist Jihadists say it's Bush's fault.
The Democrats say it's Bush's fault.
Millions of idiots can't be wrong.
Thousands Feared Drowned in New Orleans -- I've never seen such poor planning and leadership in my life. the Mayor and Governor should be tarred & feathered. This is just inexcusable, unbelievable incompetence.
Heart of America: Common People Doing Heroic Things
Thought-provoking opinion:
" In my opinion, the time for optimism has passed. New Orleans did not dodge a bullet, New Orleans suffered a worst case doomsday scenario. But this is far far bigger than New Orleans alone.
By my count, America has lost not one city, but nine of them. "
Storm may shut refineries for months -- Keep the EPA multiple gas blend suspension in force, suspend the federal & state gas taxes indefinitely, start importing from IRAQ, drill - drill - drill where the caribou roam & wherever else it is geologically promising, start building refineries & identical nuke plants (one thing the French have done right), start using our vast coal supply by building liquification/gasification plants.
Turn Bases into Refineries part 2 -- This is a excellent idea, which will help the LONG term problem (just like building 10 new nuke power plants).
For SHORT term help, suspend taxes on gas for 90 days, suspend requirements for 40 different blends of gas for the nation, pass legislation to end lawsuits against MTBE's (which the enviro-weenies are responsible for in the first place), proclaim closed military bases as "refinery empowerment zones", where they will have a 100 year lease on the land, be shielded against environmental lawsuits, and not taxed for 10 years.
Analysts see Katrina as `perfect storm' for already high energy prices -- We own all of the oil sitting underneath Iraq. Why aren't we pumping it for ourselves? Gas should be 50¢ a gallon. We also own tons of oil up in the arctic. To hell with the environmental wackos - start drilling!
Timeline as best as I can quickly reconstruct from the earlier Katrina threads (times are CDT) -
- Sometime before 5 pm Friday,, the governor issues a state of emergency for Louisiana
- As of 10:45 pm Friday, New Orleans was simply monitoring the storm.
- At 10 pm Friday, the National Hurricane Center's 3-day track targets New Orleans for a late-afternoon Monday strike. The previous track issued at 4 pm bulls-eyed the Mississippi-Alabama line
- At 10 am Saturday, the NWS issues a hurricane watch for New Orleans.
- By 11:30 am Saturday, evacuations were ordered for parishes to the south and east of New Orleans.
- At 12:22 pm Saturday, Diddle E. Squatt points out that allowing the southern parishes to evacuate first is part of the plan.
- At 4:45 pm Saturday, the voluntary evacuation order for New Orleans is given. At this point, the NWS track shows the eye hitting about 1 pm Monday.
- At 3 am Sunday, the mayor claimed he could not make the evacuation mandatory due to a "legal technicality", and that he would order it if he could.
- At 9:25 am Sunday the evacuation became mandatory.
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I wonder if someone should start a tread for ideas on how we can all prepare ourselves for a disaster like this? Go to the Threat Matrix threads. LOTS of information.
Travel Pack --- BOB (Bug Out Bag)
(These items should be packed in portable "duffle bags" ready to go)
1-qt water per person
Identification (copies of records/cd
2-"energy bars" per person
Dehydrated food pack for one week dried fruit, vegetables, meat flour, oil, salt, pepper, spices vitamins, honey,peanut butter crackers, protein powder, powder milk
Collapsible 5 ga. Water containers
"Water washer" filter
Lightweight cook kit large pot, dishes, spoons, forks knives, cups, non-stick skillet spatula, can opener, large spoon
Towels
2-water proof nylon tarps
Change of clothes for each person
Coats,
1-thermal blanket
1-sleeping bag / person
Matches, fire starter
Compass, maps of areas of intended use
2-rechargeable/shakable flashlights
12v trouble light w/@cig. lighter plug
First aid kit
Toilet paper,
Soap
1-pocket knife
1-fishing kit
1-large bowie knife (western cutlery) (perfectly weighted to serve as both fire knife and hatchet etc)
1-small portable mt. Climber's stove
1-back pack with frame
Paper, pencil
Signaling mirror
1-manual flashlight
Whistle , portable cable saw
Small bottle of bleach, insect repellent.
Magnifying glass
100 ft. 1/2 dia. Goldline rope,
2 pulleys
50 ft. Nylon "shroudline" cord
.22 caliber pistol w/ 500 rds. Ammo.
There are many, many variations of this Bug Out Bag. Some place more reliance on defense, property, records.
Seems one should prepare according to their own specific needs, location. Here's some info, left over from the Y2K 'scare' and survivalists
FYI
Google Search for Bug Out Bag = BOB
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To: backhoe
Thanks so much!
Good ammo to counter the MSM lies this week!
To: roses of sharon
Thanks so much! Good ammo to counter the MSM lies this week...Thanks for looking- we've got the timeline and the facts here, for any to see. I already hear the Media Hive tuning up for an all "Bash the Evil Boosh" week of propaganda.
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New Orleans Blues
The Tragedy of New Orleans (ingrained culture of political corruption in New Orleans)--Turned its back? As the chart nearby indicates, Congress has approved
$122.5 billion... New Orleans' plight is not the result of federal underspending. Uncle Sam has spent some five times more on Katrina relief than any other natural disaster in the past 50 years. Methinks the US has hit the....."a democracy that votes itself freestuff"....stage.....If I remember correctly the next stage of a democracy is "downfall"...
CNN Starts Weeklong Attack on Insurance Companies--The insurance companies have absolutely raped those folks in New Orleans. If you go there you will see house after house, completely ruined, with signs saying "Allstate paid me $3,500 for this."
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September 3rd, 2006
From the Austin American-Statesman:
Tiffany Madura loves Hope, a cocker found in perilous health after Hurricane Katrina. But a New Orleans woman says the dog is her pet, Jazz, and has sued to get her back.
Hope waits
Hey, for once everybody has a dog in this fight.
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Taxpayer Abuse: Your Millions in Katrina Relief Go To . . . A Football Stadium--$170 Million of Your Katrina "Relief"...come right out and say it-Katrina was a big scam. It covered up corruption in the state of Louisiana, allowed the media to blame a sitting President for a natural disaster, and bought a lot of TVs, tattoos, and ipods. Were people hurt by the storm? Absolutely. But honest and resonable people moved on with their lives, while a multitude are still scamming the system. But anyone who points out the scams, is labled insensitive..
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We had a kid here fixing the dishwasher last week from NO and he started talking about the fact that “they” blew up the levees. We asked him who ‘they’ were and he didn’t know.
My husband tried to explain that levees wash out from under the water level where you can’t see them and they must be maintained to prevent that. He got that ‘deer in the headlights look’ and didn’t comment but you knew he had never considered that before.
He didn’t fix the dishwasher BTW and I have to call and get him back.
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To: Ditter
Hi, Ditter- it's always nice to "see" you around the forum. Regarding this?
He didnt fix the dishwasher BTW and I have to call and get him back.
You might want to consider another repairman- anyone subscribing to that "'they' blew up the levees" theory probably believes in Alchemy, too. That's probably why he couldn't fix it...
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To: backhoe
Hi backhoe, nice to see you too. Well I am going to call his repair company because they got my money. Hopefully they will send someone other than Jermaine, in fact I am going to insist on it.
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#103 WrathofG-d
I think, in light of what you wrote, you will thoroughly enjoy this SERIOUS Scott Ott of Scrappleface article. Also, some of the longer comments after the article talking about the post Katrina volunteer relief efforts. It's going to take some time, but well worth reading. http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2448
ScrappleFace Editor Responds to Real Editor
To: ScrappleFace Readers
Fr: Scott Ott, editor, ScrappleFace.com
[You can listen to a portion of this post at ScrappleFace Audio.]
In the four and a half years since ScrappleFace began, my little satirical stories have reached millions of people. Those who read them on the website, for the most part, understand the satirical context. However, thanks to the magic of clip-and-paste, many stories have been ripped from their context and distributed via email, listserv and forum, causing consternation and ill-will in some cases. Normally, the vast editorial staff at ScrappleFace when notified of such offenses, dutifully ignores them, preferring to let the work speak for itself. We simply continue to ply the trade of creating fake but accurate news that we learned in journalism school, and at the feet of Dan Rather and The New York Times.
However, today we received the note below from an apparently real editor, and felt moved to respond. The following, both the email we received and our response, is non-satirical. (That means it is not satire.)
The following is the non-satirical response from ScrappleFace editor-in-chief Scott Ott:
Dear Mary Ratcliff,
First, heres a link to a site that contains dozens of links that provide ways for people to help Katrina survivors. May all who read this visit and give.
Your email address indicates you are an editor of something. Part of an editors job is to check sources before going to press. You clipped and pasted a bit forwarded to you from a satire website and sent it out as if it were something that Rep. Nancy Pelosi said. Now, you have asked me to write to this group of people (on a listserv) who have endured some of the harsh realities of life, that I might somehow atone for the confusion you have caused.
I embrace the opportunity.
In the immediate aftermath of Katrina, journalists sought someone to blame. They, predictably, found President George Bush was the best scapegoat. But in lashing out, yet again, at their favorite source of all discontent, they missed a bigger target. If anyone out there is to be blamed, it is the large, remote, centralized federal government which has become a surrogate father to so many millions of Americans.
Over the decades, we have ceded power, authority and responsibility to the federal government far beyond anything envisioned or desired by our founders. As a result, instead relying on our own intelligence, resources and ability to work with others in our communities to solve problems, we have turned to Washington D.C..
This is not a matter of blaming the victim, because the victim has become so immersed in this twisted view of human life that he cannot see what has happened. The federal governments dehumanizing effect has torn up neighborhoods, torn apart families and turned brave, capable people into compliant recipients of redistributed wealth.
The problem is that the morsels of that wealth never provide enough to do anything other than keep folks in a perpetual state of dependence upon the State. Even if those morsels became chunks big enough to choke a horse, the dependency would remain. The federal government has become not only the safety net, it is everything from the crib blanket to the casket lining.
The danger of centralized government control is not that it robs a few dollars from rich people and gives them to the poor. Its not even that such a bureaucratic behemoth spawns the waste of billions of dollars. After all, its just money.
No, the threat of this system is that it strips a man of what makes him a man, and turns him away from his inner resources, or the inclination to partner with neighbors to solve problems. It humiliates him, blinds him and ultimately cripples him.
Of course, when a government-built levee bursts, and a government-subsidized house is immersed, the natural, reasonable reaction of the displaced person is to turn to the government; both to blame for the disaster and to petition for relief. Many of the homes that were destroyed belonged to middle- and upper-class citizens as well, and yet still somehow even some of those people turned toward Washington to vent anger and cry out for restoration.
Sadly, the story that rarely gets told are the daily acts of bravery, fortitude and cooperation in dozens of communities where people often through the agency of local churches have pulled together in reliance upon each other and in a shared dependence upon superintending grace. Work crews that report to no one in Washington have poured into the region to cart off debris and help lay the foundations for a better future. Against all odds, many of the washed-out residents have worked long hours, endured separation from family and almost-overwhelming hardship in order to rebuild what the waters ravaged. These people are beyond number, and below the media radar.
Journalists, by habit, prefer stories they can receive from the tip of a spoon held by an expert or official. They, too, have turned to big government and have become dependent upon her for their sustenance. What most Americans know of the situation in the hurricane zone is only what TV or other news sources tell them. Most of that information comes from authorities in the government. The reporters have told us that the real story is all about the governments response. They have largely ignored the responsible activities of thousands of unseen hands restoring towns, parks, homes and lives.
Success stories are buried. Tragedy is blared from the housetops. Its a self-reinforcing cycle that further deepens dependence upon the government, and further strips the dignity of the person.
The victims of Katrina are not really the victims of Katrina herself. The tragedy began long before the hurricane hit.
Natural disasters have always happened and always will. While, mercifully, they dont occur every day in every place, they are common enough that we ought to have an expectation that bad things can and will happen. We need to cultivate the inner resources in ourselves, our children and our neighborhoods to cope with the inevitable. When we cede that power and responsibility to the federal government, we surrender a part of what makes us human and leave ourselves more vulnerable to the tempest.
Whether you believe in God or not, you have surely experienced how the human soul sings when we gather in chorus to accomplish a great purpose in the midst of tragedy. Its as if we were designed to work together with our family, friends and neighbors. There is a blessing in it that exceeds the penalty of the curse.
When my own community was hit by flooding some years ago, people stepped off their porches, shouldered sandbags, delivered meals, took in the homeless, wielded shovels against the muck, and generally helped each other in the task of restoration. As awful as that flood was, I will always remember it fondly, not for the harm it did to us and to our property, but for the good it did in us and in our community.
Our state-run schools and spoon-fed media have conditioned us to look to government. Theyve also trained us to take offense at any expression of love that doesnt result in government intervention and redistribution of taxpayer dollars. Compassion has been redefined as entitlement and thus stripped of its power and utility.
The devastating impact of this mindset is the apparent withering of the individual spirit and of community cooperation which have been the hallmarks of this great nation.
But all is not yet lost, and perhaps not so much is lost as we have been led to believe.
Since what we know about America flows mostly from the media, we can be certain that most of what we know is just plain wrong, or at least atypical. My old journalism professor used to say, News is coups, earthquakes and three-legged chickens.
In other words, Walter Cronkite was exactly wrong to say Thats the way it is. Journalists dont report the truth about life. They are carnival barkers selling the unusual, the atypical, the freaks. And we continue to reward them for doing so.
The actual truth about life in our great Republic is quite different from the daily portrayals in the media.
Everywhere in this God-blessed America covert radicals roam, committing seemingly-random acts of kindness unmonitored, untallied, uncontrolled, unshackled from the federal government. It is, in effect, a shadow government that we have set up for ourselves to promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty.
This decentralized movement of men and women accomplishes most of the great work of charity, compassion and community building. Their individual efforts are a drop in the bucket compared to the ocean of government largess, but in the aggregate and ultimate their service far exceeds anything that government can deliver.
In fact, the vast majority of Americans behave as if the federal government did not exist in their day-to-day lives. This underground movement is entirely healthy and necessary for the maintenance of our Republic and for our pursuit of happiness.
We dont have time to blame anyone for our misfortunes. Were too busy working to overcome them. We dont have faith in some distant bureaucrat, rather we turn to the resources that God has placed near at hand. We lean on our brothers. Many of us call on our Father in our time of need, and He sends our neighbors who love us more than we love ourselves. Later, we will turn to our helpers when they need us and repay the debt, only to learn that no debt existed because acts of compassion shower blessings on giver and receiver alike.
We find these local (and spiritual) solutions not only adequate, but invigorating and inspiring because it is only when we are pressed hard by life that we discover there is more life in us, among us and beyond us than we had imagined in carefree hours.
Sincerely,
Scott Ott, editor
www.ScrappleFace.com
You can listen to a portion of this post at ScrappleFace Audio.