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HURRICANE KATRINA- archive of links
various FR links & stories | 09-02-05 | the heavy equipment guy

Posted on 09/02/2005 3:35:55 AM PDT by backhoe

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KEYWORDS: AFTERMATH; HURRICANE; KATRINA; TROPICAL;
 
 Katrina Live Thread, Part XIII
 
 Previous Threads:
Katrina Live Thread, Party XII
Katrina Live Thread, Part XI
Katrina Live Thread, Part X
Katrina Live Thread, Part IX
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part V
Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
 
And a special hattip to our own  NautiNurse  who started and maintained the above valuable posts--
 
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First off, let's debunk and defang the myth, meme, shibboleth and current hot talking point that "It's ALL Bush's Fault"--
 I have heard many leftists say that Bush slashed $20 million from FEMA funds that would have been used to reinforce the levee system in New Orleans.
 
MSM: Take Note - Clinton's Contribution to the Katrina Disaster ( Must Read )
Source:
 The Federal Register ^
 People have been talking for years about what would happen should a hurricane this size hit that city, and I'd be willing to bet you there were lots of federal dollars passed from hand to hand over the years to prepare for this.
I will be astounded if some of those reporters don't ask the obvious questions: Where did the money go, why weren't officials prepared? It's not like it was a secret this could happen someday.
 Bill Clinton did not sign for the improvements & money requested by the Army Corp of Engineers & LA to make them. Source:  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1474591/posts?page=77#77 
 
Q.3. Why only Category 3 protection?
A.3. That is what we were authorized to do. [Answer by the Corps of Engineers]
 http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/083005cccawwlunwatering.45718845.html
 There are already the accusations that federal money was diverted away from improving NO's levee system for other purposes, likely the war.Yes, Sidney Blumenthal already planted that political urban press using the foreign press to launder out the Clinton fingerprints. The way to shoot it down is to explain that the fed money was there but because LA refused to put up any of the state matching funds that were required by law before the fed money could be spent. Since LA made it clear for several years that they weren't going to provide those matches and expected the feds to pay 100%, the money was diverted to other needs, of which there were many.
 
 
Critics Say Bush Undercut New Orleans Flood Control -- Hint to the Liberals --This is NOT a road you want to go down --Shall we open up the books to the BILLIONS of dollars that was sent to NO and what happened to it all?
 Even with full funding in recent years, none of the flood-control projects would have been completed in time to prevent the swamping of the city, as Democrats yesterday acknowledged.
 
 
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What is worse, this danger was known about, and written about, and studied, for years:
 The Lost City of New Orleans? (Dec 2000)
 
 NASA Flooding Simulation
 
 2004 Amazingly Precise Prediction of New Orleans Disaster -- This was entirely predictable and inevitable to anyone who has followed the issue.
 
 
 
 
  Click on the thumbnail to open full picture in a new window.



This is a 1998 modelling of a CAT 4 or CAT 5 moving through New Orleans-- Here is what they predicted for flooding....
http://www.nola.com/hurricane/content/katrina_projected_flooding082805.pdf

 Apocalypse Live (Description of a category 4 or 5 hurricane from three weeks ago)

 Gone with the Water -- Published last fall - eerie... 

 Drowning New Orleans -- Scientific American ^ | October 2001 |

 From Jeff Master's weather blog on http://www.wunderground.com
"I'd hate to be an Emergency Management official in New Orleans right now. Katrina is pretty much following the NHC forecast, and appears likely to pass VERY close to New Orleans. I'm surprised they haven't ordered an evacuation of the city yet. While the odds of a catastropic hit that would completely flood the city of New Orleans are probably 10%, that is way too high in my opinion to justify leaving the people in the city. -- posted on 08/27/2005 8:04:52 PM EDT

 
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Here are the pictures:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 http://sigmund.biz/kat/index.html has the archives of both the cam and camera shots taken from just before the hurricane to today. (it takes quite a while to load unless you have wide broadband.)
 
 
 
 
Complete Aerial Picture Survey of Mississippi Coast Damage
 
 
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...and here is contact information for those trying to get information:
 
 
 
 Food for the Hungry , is a good solid Christian relief organization with VERY LOW Administration cost. Approx 93% of contributions go to actual relief.
 Don't know if anyone has posted this yet, but here is a website for people to leave messages letting loved ones know they are OK or to post the names of people they are in search of: Katrina Check-In
 
 
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In roughly reverse chronological order, here are the best links  I have culled since this story broke:
 
 
New Orleans in Anarchy With Fights, Rapes (Blanco gives shoot to kill order?) -- Wow!
When guns are outlawed, only the government and outlaws will have guns.
 
 Tourists Realize They're Afterthought, Band Together
 
 New Orleans radio system flooded -- "I'm absolutely astounded by the degree and pervasiveness of the incompetence and malfeasance at both the municipal as well as state goernment level in this disaster." -- if you've been watching the Governor,  the mayor and police chief  the past few days ...... to call them "incompetent" is an insult to incompetents.
 
 
 Instant Haiti.
 Water May Linger for Months (New Orleans, "Gone With the Wind?"
 
 Levee repair work has yet to begin (Another Levee Break - 700ft wide NOLA will take 3-6 mos to dry) -- Would the last person to swim out of NOLA please bring the flag?
 NOLAntis. The Lost City.

  Masques of Death (A sewer of applied liberalism, New Orleans was lawless long before this week.)

New Orleans in Anarchy With Fights, Rapes -- Politicizing a tragedy? No, teaching valuable lessons, if they dare.
 
 Ted Koppel blames Bush for failure to evacuate poor prior to the Katrina hitting New Orleans -- Dateline pretty much did the same thing. ABC has a Meme and it is the new strategy of the Left... use the disaster to crucify the President.
It is obscene.
 
 
The Katrina syndrome: What a hurricane can teach -- I didn't really enjoy the article until the end..when he compared how they everyone the warnings about levees and sea levels and hurricanes, etc., until disaster struck....and then it was too late.
And when he then compared that to the border issue, and how the signs are all there, but nobody in the government cares to do anything about it. And when they do, it will be too late.
 
 The Great Society our welfare System has Created.

 Gasoline Prices & Katrina

 Hurricanes, Hatred and Hypocrisy

Don't blame Katrina
 
 Ford blasts Bush’s handling of Hurricane Katrina -- The Governor of LA is supposed to be coordinating with FEMA, isn't she?
Yep. But she has vanished. She can't go on television without bawling like a baby, so her handlers are hiding her.
 You asked, "What in the world is wrong with the governor??"
She's so afraid of doing something wrong that she can't do anything right. You can see her "deer in the headlights" look on television. She's an incompetent political hack thrown into a nightmare situation and she's just frozen.
 
 
Rebuilding New Orleans doesn't make sense
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1475129/posts
 
 New Orleans, the Tragedy -- This is the article from which Rush quoted in the first hour of his show today.
 
 
 Shephard Smith "Grandstanding" in New Orleans, showing dead bodies on Fox News. -- "Personally, I don't think the networks should have 'saved us' from the horrors of 9-11 as they did. Perhaps if the reality of that situation had been known then people wouldn't have so easily forgotten."
Amen to that! I agree 100%! If they had show the real carnage, people would be supporting our troops now, instead of low-lifes like Cindy Sheehan.
 
 
 The global warming crowd says it's Bush's fault.

The Zionist Christians say it's Bush's fault.

The Islamist Jihadists say it's Bush's fault.

The Democrats say it's Bush's fault.

Millions of idiots can't be wrong.

 Thousands Feared Drowned in New Orleans -- I've never seen such poor planning and leadership in my life. the Mayor and Governor should be tarred & feathered. This is just inexcusable, unbelievable incompetence.

 Heart of America: Common People Doing Heroic Things

Thought-provoking opinion:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1474387/posts?page=106#106
" In my opinion, the time for optimism has passed. New Orleans did not dodge a bullet, New Orleans suffered a worst case doomsday scenario. But this is far far bigger than New Orleans alone.
By my count, America has lost not one city, but nine of them. "
 
 
 Read this great rant from Pukin Dog then, no typing required --
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1474141/posts
 
 
 
 Storm may shut refineries for months -- Keep the EPA multiple gas blend suspension in force, suspend the federal & state gas taxes indefinitely, start importing from IRAQ, drill - drill - drill where the caribou roam & wherever else it is geologically promising, start building refineries & identical nuke plants (one thing the French have done right), start using our vast coal supply by building liquification/gasification plants.

 Turn Bases into Refineries part 2 -- This is a excellent idea, which will help the LONG term problem (just like building 10 new nuke power plants).
For SHORT term help, suspend taxes on gas for 90 days, suspend requirements for 40 different blends of gas for the nation, pass legislation to end lawsuits against MTBE's (which the enviro-weenies are responsible for in the first place), proclaim closed military bases as "refinery empowerment zones", where they will have a 100 year lease on the land, be shielded against environmental lawsuits, and not taxed for 10 years.

  Analysts see Katrina as `perfect storm' for already high energy prices -- We own all of the oil sitting underneath Iraq. Why aren't we pumping it for ourselves? Gas should be 50¢ a gallon. We also own tons of oil up in the arctic. To hell with the environmental wackos - start drilling!

Timeline as best as I can quickly reconstruct from the earlier Katrina threads (times are CDT) -
3,827 posted on 08/31/2005 2:12:02 AM EDT by steveegg
 
 Katrina Packing Wind of Nearly 175 Mph (Mayor irresponsible in evac delay) -- To: Howlin
For future reference, this repeated line by the mayor and governor that "We went to bed Friday night being told it was a Florida storm, and woke up Saturday to find us threatened" to excuse why they waited so long to start the evacuation plan is total bullshit. (excuse my French)

Friday 4pm NO time report from the NWS, warns of a significant shift west, Mississippi landfall (88.5 on the grid, NO is 90), and possible more movement expected (post #388):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1471043/posts?page=388#388


By at least Friday 6pm computer models were converging on LA (post #478):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1471043/posts?page=478#478


Turns out those computer models had been run at 2pm (post #526):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1471043/posts?page=526#526


In fact some computer models run at 7am NO time Friday had predicted a NO hit(post #224):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1471043/posts?page=224#224

So unless the gov and mayor went to bed Friday afternoon, they knew then that it likely was headed their way.
 
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 I wonder if someone should start a tread for ideas on how we can all prepare ourselves for a disaster like this?  Go to the Threat Matrix threads. LOTS of information.
 Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Twenty-Two
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/preparedsurvivalistsunite2/?yguid=95479470
 
 Emergency Kit
 

Travel Pack --- BOB (Bug Out Bag)

(These items should be packed in portable "duffle bags" ready to go)

• 1-qt water per person
• Identification (copies of records/cd
• 2-"energy bars" per person
• Dehydrated food pack for one week dried fruit, vegetables, meat flour, oil, salt, pepper, spices vitamins, honey,peanut butter crackers, protein powder, powder milk
• Collapsible 5 ga. Water containers
• "Water washer" filter
• Lightweight cook kit large pot, dishes, spoons, forks knives, cups, non-stick skillet spatula, can opener, large spoon
• Towels
• 2-water proof nylon tarps
• Change of clothes for each person
• Coats,
• 1-thermal blanket
• 1-sleeping bag / person
• Matches, fire starter
• Compass, maps of areas of intended use
• 2-rechargeable/shakable flashlights
• 12v trouble light w/@cig. lighter plug
• First aid kit
• Toilet paper,
• Soap
• 1-pocket knife
• 1-fishing kit
• 1-large bowie knife (western cutlery) (perfectly weighted to serve as both fire knife and hatchet etc)
• 1-small portable mt. Climber's stove
• 1-back pack with frame
• Paper, pencil
• Signaling mirror
• 1-manual flashlight
• Whistle , portable cable saw
• Small bottle of bleach, insect repellent.
• Magnifying glass
• 100 ft. 1/2 dia. Goldline rope,
• 2 pulleys
• 50 ft. Nylon "shroudline" cord
• .22 caliber pistol w/ 500 rds. Ammo.

There are many, many variations of this Bug Out Bag. Some place more reliance on ‘defense’, property, records.

Seems one should prepare according to their own specific needs, location. Here's some info, left over from the Y2K 'scare' and survivalists
FYI …Google Search for Bug Out Bag = BOB

4,210 posted on 09/01/2005 1:37:35 PM EDT by Stand Watch Listen
 
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 Discussion Thread - Hurricane Katrina - What Went Wrong?!?


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New Orleans Recovery Could Take 25 Years

Levee restoration price doubles

Hurricane Katrina -Wind Versus Water: The Whistle blowers

241 posted on 03/31/2006 6:49:11 AM PST by backhoe ("Keep Your Powder Dry!" hattip: Minutegal)
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Big Easy hit by crime wave as dealers return
 
Bill Cosby tells New Orleans blacks to reject crime

242 posted on 04/02/2006 1:07:21 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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New Orleans House Party: Welcome to the ghost town

Bill Expands Government's Right to Take Property

243 posted on 04/04/2006 1:33:29 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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Bill Cosby Lectures New Orleans Blacks

244 posted on 04/05/2006 5:45:03 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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Proposed bill would require a plan for pet evacuations
 

245 posted on 04/18/2006 5:29:07 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Debris, Misery Pile Up for New Orleans

 


246 posted on 05/02/2006 3:29:05 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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Blanco vetoes natural gas port --The last poll I saw, I think it was in March, had Blank-0's approval rating in the mid-20's. Having known her and her family for over a decade before she was foisted on this state, I warned anybody who would listen that she was a complete buffoon. Katrina merely proved what I'd been saying for years.

247 posted on 05/06/2006 12:11:11 PM PDT by backhoe
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From the "well, duh!" dept--

Katrina-size hurricane would devastate South Florida, scientists say

248 posted on 05/07/2006 4:47:41 PM PDT by backhoe
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No Friend Left Behind The public demands evacuation plans for people and pets.
 
The US is not ready for this upcomming hurricane season

249 posted on 05/08/2006 4:23:09 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: backhoe

Bookmarked


250 posted on 05/15/2006 9:22:13 AM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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Thanks for looking- and here's ( gulp! ) more:

3 major hurricanes to hit US this year: AccuWeather

251 posted on 05/15/2006 12:52:26 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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IT'S NAGIN(Plus a little analysis of the numbers)
 

252 posted on 05/21/2006 5:48:20 AM PDT by backhoe
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http://www.instapundit.com/

REPRESENTATIVE WILLIAM JEFFERSON  ( Democrat of Louisiana )  captured on video taking a $100,000 bribe: Gateway Pundit has a roundup. This whole "culture of corruption" is getting way out of hand.

Plus there's this: "$90,000 found in congressman's freezer . . . Some readers may recall that Jefferson also used the National Guard to secure his home in New Orleans during the Katrina aftermath.

Explaining the New Orleans Election(From a Conservative Local )--The DUmmies are moaning and wailing about Nagin's re-election, calling him a Republican and--of course--claiming the election was stolen.

DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE WORKED TO DEFEAT NAGIN


253 posted on 05/22/2006 5:38:01 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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http://michellemalkin.com/archives/005238.htm
FOILED AGAIN!
By Michelle Malkin   ·   May 22, 2006 08:51 AM

So much for the Dems' attack on the GOP culture of corruption.

Now, they've got to contend with Democrat Rep. William Jefferson reportedly caught on tape accepting bribes in cold, hard cash. Emphasize on cold:

Add this one to the files, Howard.

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Scrappleface spoofs: "Rep. Jefferson Hid Cash to Protect Colleagues."

One of Ed Morrissey's readers notes the possible connection between the bribe scandal and another Jefferson brouhaha over the congressman's use of "National Guard troops to check on his property and rescue his personal belongings — even while New Orleans residents were trying to get rescued from rooftop:"


Hot Air on Alan Mollohan

King John Conyers
Dirty Harry Reid: Then and Now


254 posted on 05/22/2006 1:49:19 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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NAGIN'S VICTORY DIMS BLANCO'S CHANCES OF RE-ELECTION
 
N.O. holds trailer park evacuation drills
 
Katrina autopsy: Police shot retarded man in back--At least he can still vote.
 
Experts: Hurricane Season Won't Match 2005 (contrary to what other 'experts' opine)

255 posted on 05/23/2006 3:58:03 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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http://powerlineblog.com/archives/014165.php
Katrina Media Malpractice: Worse than we Knew!

With another hurricane season approaching, Lou Dolinar's analysis of the medial meltdown over Katrina in Real Clear Politics couldn't be more timely. Dolinar shows that the media almost completely ignored an extraordinarily successful rescue effort, by the National Guard and others, that saved tens of thousands of lives in New Orleans. In their haste to broadcast lurid (albeit false) stories of chaos and mayhem, the press missed the real story: ...read it all. The bottom line is that the mass media blew their coverage of Hurricane Katrina badly. Has anyone paid a price for that malpractice? Not that I know of. Last I saw, media figures were awarding one another prizes for their Katrina coverage.

256 posted on 05/23/2006 1:14:47 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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Local Officials, Visitors, Disappointed by Hurricane Drill Results

257 posted on 05/24/2006 4:32:57 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/004030.html

Katrina: A Tale Of Two Tales

One wonders if the news networks took a wrong turn at Albuquerque and ended up, not in New Orleans, but on a Hollywood movie set. More here from Jonah Goldberg;  Read them both, and then file for future reference the next time those who ride the microphone ponies stand before the cameras to bring us "on the scene reporting".  Comments (13)

New Orleans seen top target for '06 hurricanes
 
Mississippi has a place for heroes: Jail [man jailed for selling generators to Katrina victims]--When the government steps in to limit the amount of profit a person can make in an otherwise free and open market, or it ties their hands in order to supposedly make things more "fair" for others, that person will eventually withdraw their goods and services from the market.
At some point, Atlas Shrugs...
 
House Passes Pet Evacuation Bill

258 posted on 05/24/2006 2:07:56 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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Florida - Active storm seasons have made some overconfident, and others scared
 
http://www.instapundit.com/
MORE ON KATRINA: The report is out, and Popular Mechanics has a summary.
 
Florida - Property owners to pay 1 percent insurance 'tax' for hurricanes
 

259 posted on 06/01/2006 4:36:35 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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-- soon, we will control the Universe:



260 posted on 06/02/2006 12:17:00 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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