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Katrina Live Thread, Part XIII
Various ^ | 1 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/01/2005 3:46:26 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: jeffers

How certain are you about those numbers? In the Discovery program they said 1/2 million people lived in New Orleans.


2,341 posted on 09/01/2005 10:25:54 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Ovation_girl

Where the hell do they come up with these names...
Ophelia? Philippe?


2,342 posted on 09/01/2005 10:26:46 PM PDT by conservativebabe (God Bless Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida)
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To: CindyDawg

Clinton left a nightmare for Bush to clean up in many, many areas.


2,343 posted on 09/01/2005 10:27:20 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

most of NO is a ghetto. people come and they see the quarter and the CBD and think everythings all "cool" and fun. But behind the landmarks are 8 story projects with the worst of the worst in human beings. Now the animals are out having fun without any sign of the lazy and corrupt NOPD


2,344 posted on 09/01/2005 10:27:28 PM PDT by Tiger Smack
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To: supercat

Most of what you saw was not looting. These people intended to purchase the items. Unfortunately, the clerks had evacuated the stores. I'm sure the "shoppers" will return with the money once the stores reopen.


2,345 posted on 09/01/2005 10:28:07 PM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: tcrlaf
CNN- In Some New Orleans precincts, as many as 50-60% of the cops have DESERTED!

Take names. Way to protect your citizens, N.O. cops. Let someone else defend your families and neighbors. We wouldn't want you to take responsibility for anything.

2,346 posted on 09/01/2005 10:28:23 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: untenured
I just listened on a national trucking radio show to a driver who is at a staging area some distance away from NO, on contract with FEMA. He says that they keep trying to send convoys in with supplies, and once they get close the convoys keep getting shot at, forcing them to turn around.

That pretty much sounds like the coverage today on the media. The same was being said about the rescue boats. Something has to be done to stop this nonsense, and quick.

2,347 posted on 09/01/2005 10:28:26 PM PDT by easonc52
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To: Krodg
Where is the Red Cross set up? The only place I've seen them is at the Astro Dome, where they are asking people to donate DVDs for the children. I've seen reports of them giving food to the Southern Baptist to prepare and then the RC kindly serves it, but I'm not sure this is the same place. I'm just wondering where else they are.

I'm awaiting a call to go down to the New Orleans area and assist with the Southern Baptist's relief effort. They will be providing 300,000 meals per day by Saturday. They're working under the Red Cross... and the Red Cross told them to be ready to ramp it up to over 500,000.

2,348 posted on 09/01/2005 10:28:36 PM PDT by montanus
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Well they have trashed one already and shot at those trying to help them.

No-one has trashed the Sueperdome but Katrina. Don't you get the news there? And no one in the Superdome has shot at anything. The only people with guns there are the National Guard running the place. They were disarming people of COMBS before they got in there. I suggest you read back a couple of dozen threads and get your facts straight before going off half-cocked.

The helicopters that were shot by someone on the ground or in the city were landing at a parking structure adjacent to the Superdome. The parking structure contains folks that were injured and sick and being treated at a make-shift triage there. They were the only people being medi-vac'd out. The healthy folks in the Superdome are being removed via bus, and waiting patiently in 90+/100% humidity weather, with the only disturbance being the person that occassionally fainted/died from standing in the heat.

There was footage of it all day on TV.

2,349 posted on 09/01/2005 10:28:43 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: Petronski

Don't ask me how I came by that data....


...oh well, I hate wasting time....nothing else to do but read the inspection stickers while otherwise occupied at a jobsite years ago.


2,350 posted on 09/01/2005 10:28:44 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: BurbankKarl

Doesn't FEMA give them all an allowance? I read that their food-stamp cards would be good where ever they go people were going to honor them.


2,351 posted on 09/01/2005 10:29:01 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

One is probably NO proper and one number is the metropolitan area.

I would imagine it would be over a million in the whole area.

That means at least a million people need shelter for months.

That is a lot of people.


2,352 posted on 09/01/2005 10:29:05 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: jeffers
It takes years to build up your home or apartment. You simply cannot pick up a million people and plant them elsewhere in a time span measured in days. Not even in weeks really, but this is precisely what FEMA is prepping to do.

A very good point that bears repeating. Even assuming no hurricane, no flooding, no criminal interference, and general optimum conditions, evacuating the entire population of a major American city has never been done before that I can think of. Yet everyone expects it to happen instantly and flawlessly.

2,353 posted on 09/01/2005 10:29:31 PM PDT by Heatseeker ("I sort of like liberals now. They’re kind of cute when they’re shivering and afraid." - Ann Coulter)
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To: kcvl

Nice commitment.


2,354 posted on 09/01/2005 10:29:34 PM PDT by conservativebabe (God Bless Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

the other question I have is - suppose these people want to leave? supposed they just want to leave and live in Houston, go on welfare and public assistance and/or look for employment in Houston and get an apartment. how can they be stopped?


2,355 posted on 09/01/2005 10:30:22 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: BurbankKarl

Fate Of Mortgages In Damaged Areas Unclear

Consumer Affairs brings up the new bankruptcy rules that involve natural disasters. "Under the new bankruptcy legislation, homeowners who have refinanced may be liable for the full cost of their loans if they waived their protections when signing their new agreements."

"Such was the fate of many homeowners after a series of landslides in Laguna Beach, California, in June of 2005, the Los Angeles Times reported. It remains to be seen how this will affect bankruptcy or relief petitions in the wake of Katrina."

Insurer AIG has this to say about mortgages in the storm damaged areas. "Mortgage insurer AIG United Guaranty laid out guidelines Wednesday for how it will insure its clients with borrowers in areas affected by Hurricane Katrina. It did not have figures available, but many mortgages could be in potential jeopardy."

AIG insures 4,145 mortgages in Alabama; 7,131 in Louisiana, and 1,644 in Mississippi, a spokeswoman said. AIG said it wanted lenders to make arrangements with borrowers with severe property damage or temporary job losses to prevent foreclosure."

"Chris Goodwin, vice president of Loss Management (said), 'In working with lenders whose customers have been affected, we are prepared to accept a range of reasonable solutions where mortgage payment is concerned.'"


2,356 posted on 09/01/2005 10:30:35 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
OK, to double check this...

What medicines are there going to be in a Walgreens that are not in a hospital dispensary?

What medicines in a Walgreens are poorer, non-prescription replacements for those that are stocked in a dispensary?

How many days' supply of these supplies are typically in the dispensary?

How badly was the dispensary looted by armed vermin?

Prayers for ALL!

Full Disclosure:

Q. Do you know why Arizona doesn't get floods like this?

A. Because our governor is the biggest "dike" in the world?

2,357 posted on 09/01/2005 10:30:48 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: kcvl

That does explaing alot.

All of them should be rounded up and arrested.


2,358 posted on 09/01/2005 10:31:07 PM PDT by jbstrick (insert clever tagline here)
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To: Spiff
Doctors at two desperately crippled hospitals in New Orleans called The Associated Press Thursday morning pleading for rescue, "We have been trying to call the mayor's office, we have been trying to call the governor's office ... we have tried to use any inside pressure we can. We are turning to you. Please help us," said Dr. Norman McSwain, chief of trauma surgery at Charity Hospital, the largest of two public hospitals.
2,359 posted on 09/01/2005 10:31:08 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Petronski

You're right, it couldn't have hurt. I have my feelings on the issues being raised along these lines. I just choose to ignore them until we have saved all the people we can.

Not an infinite postponment though, count on that.


2,360 posted on 09/01/2005 10:31:48 PM PDT by jeffers
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