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BREAKING - MARTIAL LAW DECLARED IN NEW ORLEANS
WWLTV.com Live Feed ^ | 8/31/05 | WWLTV

Posted on 08/31/2005 5:33:35 PM PDT by Syco

Just announced on WWLTV. The Mayor of New Orleans has just declared martial law to deal with the looters. No Miranda Rights, etc.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: katrina; looting; martiallaw; neworleans
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To: bourbon
according to the Hattiesburg American, power is still a real problem in Hattiesburg . . . which makes getting gas a real problem, too.

link

241 posted on 08/31/2005 10:07:21 PM PDT by smonk
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To: wardaddy
Joe Scarborough was saying tonight they needed drinking water

No doubt. But it's probable that you could get more drinking water to more people with a transfer of funds than with your truck. The authorities and charities have access to warehouses full of the stuff and heavy vehicles to move it in by land, air and water as they need to and can. That's just to the best of my knowedge based on past disasters, and they might welcome your offer, which is why I suggested you contact them directly and ask.

I am suspect of the Red Cross.

I don't share your suspicions, but I understand that they're not uncommon among FReepers (and this isn't the place to debate that), so I tossed in the Salvation Army. If that's not your cup of Evian, there' s a list of organizations at http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/animal_environ/hurricanes/ of every religious and secular description.

My bottom line is that you should ask a charitable organization you trust -- whoever that is -- before acting. Even with the best of intentions, you could end up contributing to traffic on roads that are needed to get supplies in or victims out.

After 9/11, so many people showed up to volunteer that they made it more difficult to move around the area; the authorities quickly set up a hub for supplies and volunteers at Shea Stadium to relieve congestion from lower Manhattan. The best place to help is not always the closest.

242 posted on 08/31/2005 10:21:19 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: ReignOfError

agreed but the congested logistics of lower Manhattan are a bit different

btw...I was in Camille as an 11 year old....I remember a bit

my worry is that I simply cannot get thru...even though I know all the back ways in from Mobile to Bay St Louis

I did hear Brett Favre saying he could not get in either yesterday


243 posted on 08/31/2005 10:25:48 PM PDT by wardaddy (will a tort lawyer in Mississippi file class action against God now?)
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To: DCPatriot

Got your back, man.


244 posted on 08/31/2005 11:03:44 PM PDT by txhurl (Yuck.)
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To: wardaddy
agreed but the congested logistics of lower Manhattan are a bit different

A bit, but the principle is the same -- the folks on the ground know the immediate situation better than you're likely to. Even if you're familiar with the area. To broaden my point a bit, the best question to ask isn't "how can I get [x] to [y]," but "where can I go and what can I do?"

245 posted on 08/31/2005 11:04:11 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: Loud Mime

I'm not sure, and what's more it scares the hell out of me just thinking about it. LOL


246 posted on 08/31/2005 11:53:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: My Favorite Headache; bourbon; wardaddy

MFH

You have been in front on this story all along. See Wardaddy's post #201.

With your connection in the Gulfport area, maybe you can provide a suggestion where best for Wardaddy to drop a load of water.


247 posted on 09/01/2005 3:50:57 AM PDT by NerdDad (I do as the voices in my wife's head tell me.)
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To: Kieri
This is a photo op too good for either of them to pass up.

Sharpton, Jackson et al won’t be going in until the area is safe.
248 posted on 09/01/2005 3:53:07 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: gathersnomoss
"Had people been more independant and self supporting, raised on and respected GOD, this wouldn't be happening. They would be pulling together and helping each other instead."

We agree.

249 posted on 09/01/2005 3:58:25 AM PDT by condi2008
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To: Republic
Let me clarify if I may...

I am speaking about the hordes that descend on flooded storefronts. Leave them alone. The insurance will cover the loss.

As far as anyone else doing the terrible deeds you've described in #216, kill them. There are no jails to hold them.

I heard on one of the cable channels last nite that cops caught looters in a car. They took the car because their own police cruisers were non-functional.

Oh...and the cops kept the stuff for themselves.

And, Republic...I like you. Stop with the stupid Elian crap.

Using your reasoning...flawed as it is...every illegal in this country should be allowed to stay. Just because they came from Cuba shouldn't give them special preference. They are only Cubans through an accident of birth. Poor and unfortunate is poor and unfortunate. Nationality be damned. They come here for a better life.

250 posted on 09/01/2005 5:17:03 AM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: Republic
I don't believe you support President Bush, one iota. My guess, you think you are a patriot and take on that name, but function as a liberal.

Do you protest with the DC Chapter against the Code Pinko's?

No...I am a compassionate conservative.

And no, I have not protested at Walter Reed Hospital against the Code Pinkos. But if you are planning on being there this Friday, I would be happy to join you and shake your hand.

251 posted on 09/01/2005 5:22:27 AM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: patriciamary
If order breaks down in society due to ANY catastrophic event...

if an evironment becomes "every man for himself"...

if you had no food...no home...no electricity to get cash from the ATM...or gas into your tank...

you would be derelict in your role as parent if you didn't provide for their well-being in any way possible.

...including breaking the law yourself.

252 posted on 09/01/2005 5:28:22 AM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: theymakemesick
Surely as a socialist, she has faith that our socialist government will step in and feed and water the masses. Isn't that what about half of my income is confiscated for?

Yes, of course you're correct. We pay our taxes into a welfare state already, but the environment these people find themselves changes the rules...because right now there ARE NO RULES.

It's a great argument for the 2nd amendment though, isn't it?

253 posted on 09/01/2005 5:33:54 AM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: DCPatriot
She thinks I have a lot of nerve sitting on my leather sofa in my 4 bedroom house with the CAC cranked up watching my hi-def TV...saying looters should be shot.

You earned your leather sofa and all, and you had enough sense to live somewhere above sea level, and presumably not in a hurricane zone.

Shoot 'em.

254 posted on 09/01/2005 5:38:48 AM PDT by meyer (Eastern Tennessee)
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To: ReignOfError
Your reply in #247 was wonderful. I agree totally.

One good thing we can gain out of this terrible event is that it is a perfect model to gain experience and plan for a possible attack with WMD.

The staged, practice runs we see every now and then do not compare.

255 posted on 09/01/2005 5:39:21 AM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: txflake
Got your back, man.

Thanks...I think. ;^)

256 posted on 09/01/2005 5:40:10 AM PDT by DCPatriot
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To: Syco

NOW SHOTS ARE BEING FIRED AT HELOCOPTERS- SUSPENDING EVACUATION OF SUPERDOME.

SEE THIS OTHER POST FOR DETAILS.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1474728/posts


257 posted on 09/01/2005 5:50:50 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: mark502inf

Louisiana State Constitution of 1974

ARTICLE I. DECLARATION OF RIGHTS

§21. Writ of Habeas Corpus

Section 21. The writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended

ARTICLE IV. EXECUTIVE BRANCH

§5. Governor; Powers and Duties

(J) Commander-in-Chief. The governor shall be commander-in-chief of the armed forces of the state, except when they are called into service of the federal government. He may call out these forces to preserve law and order, to suppress insurrection, to repel invasion, or in other times of emergency.

The courts in the United States are often very lenient in allowing almost any action to be taken in the case of a declared emergency, if it is reasonably related. For example, habeas corpus is the right to challenge an arrest in court. The U.S. Constitution says, "The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it."

Martial law proper is instituted most often when it becomes necessary to favor the activity of military authorities and organizations, usually for urgent unforeseen needs, and when the normal institutions of justice either cannot function or could be deemed too slow or too weak for the new situation; e.g., due to war, major natural disaster, civil disorder, in occupied territory, or after a coup d'état. The need to preserve the public order during an emergency is the essential goal of martial law.

USC TITLE 10 > Subtitle A > PART I > CHAPTER 15 > § 332

§ 332. Use of militia and armed forces to enforce Federal authority

Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State or Territory by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion.

TITLE 10 > Subtitle A > PART I > CHAPTER 15 > § 333

§ 333. Interference with State and Federal law

The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy, if it:

(1) so hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or

(2) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.
In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution.

TITLE 50 > CHAPTER 13 > § 210

§ 210. Penalties for unauthorized trading, etc.; jurisdiction of prosecutions

Every officer of the United States, civil, military, or naval, and every sutler, soldier, marine, or OTHER PERSON, who takes, or causes to be taken into a State declared to be in insurrection, or to any other point to be thence taken into such State, or who transports or sells, or otherwise disposes of therein, any goods, wares, or merchandise whatsoever, except in pursuance of license and authority of the President, as provided in this chapter, or who makes any false statement or representation upon which license and authority is granted for such transportation, sale, or other disposition, or who, under any license or authority obtained, willfully and knowingly transports, sells, or otherwise disposes of any other goods, wares, or merchandise than such as are in good faith so licensed and authorized, or who willfully and knowingly transports, sells, or disposes of the same, or any portion thereof, in violation of the terms of such license or authority, or of any rule or regulation prescribed by the Secretary of the Treasury concerning the same, or who is guilty of any act of embezzlement, of willful misappropriation of public or private money or property, of keeping false accounts, or of willfully making any false returns, shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor, and shall be fined not more than $5,000, and imprisoned in the penitentiary not more than three years. Violations of this section shall be cognizable before ANY court, civil or military, competent to try the same.

TITLE 50 > CHAPTER 23 > SUBCHAPTER I > § 797

§ 797. Security regulations and orders; penalty for violation

(a) Whoever willfully shall violate any such regulation or order as, pursuant to lawful authority, shall be or has been promulgated or approved by the Secretary of Defense, or by any military commander designated by the Secretary of Defense, or by the Director of the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics, for the protection or security of military or naval aircraft, airports, airport facilities, vessels, harbors, ports, piers, water-front facilities, bases, forts, posts, laboratories, stations, vehicles, equipment, explosives, or other property or places subject to the jurisdiction, administration, or in the custody of the Department of Defense, any Department or agency of which said Department consists, or any officer or employee of said Department or agency, or of the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics or any officer or employee thereof, relating to fire hazards, fire protection, lighting, machinery, guard service, disrepair, disuse or other unsatisfactory conditions thereon, or the ingress thereto or egress or removal of persons therefrom, or otherwise providing for safeguarding the same against destruction, loss, or injury by accident or by enemy action, sabotage or other subversive actions, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction thereof shall be liable to a fine of not to exceed $5,000 or to imprisonment for not more than one year, or both.

(b) Every such regulation or order shall be posted in conspicuous and appropriate places.


258 posted on 09/01/2005 1:54:20 PM PDT by raygun
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To: DCPatriot

I agree,But is it right to rob homes of valuables,shoot people and rape.NEVER!


259 posted on 09/01/2005 3:05:58 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: patriciamary

Amen!


260 posted on 09/01/2005 3:13:07 PM PDT by DCPatriot
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