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Katrina Live Thread, Part X
Various ^ | 30 August 2005

Posted on 08/30/2005 6:51:27 AM PDT by NautiNurse

Catastrophic damage occurred to Mississippi, Louisiana and Alabama as a result of Hurricane Katrina. Major bridges are destroyed. Mobile AL suffered its worst flooding in 90 years. In New Orleans, a large section of concrete levee broke last night. Water continues to rise, threatening, among many things, Tulane Hospital with 1000 patients. New Orleans officials: Do not attempt to return to the city at this time if you evacuated. It is too dangerous.

Sun-Herald Gulfport MS

WLOX TV Biloxi, Gulfport, Pascagula

Gulfport News via Topix.net WAFB Baton Rouge

Slidell, Mandeville, and Covington Updates Warning: website is overloaded due to heavy traffic

Mobile Register via al.com

Mississippi updates via Jackson Ledger

Lafayette LA Daily Advertiser

Pensacola News Journal


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Florida; US: Georgia; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: hurricane; katrina; livehurricanekatrina; prayanddonate; tropical
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To: hawkk

I have a bunch of T-shirts that I don't wear anymore, and since I don't have a car (I take the DC-area Metro everywhere), I don't know where I could drop those off.


381 posted on 08/30/2005 8:21:20 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Dies irae, dies illa....Rex tremendae majestatis, qui salvandos salvas gratis, salva me!)
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To: Fishtalk
What still confuses me is all the dire predictions about NO, then I heard they dodged the bullet, yet what I see this morning looks EXACTLY like the dire predictions. Wishful thinking?

When it hit category 5 with its immense size, everyone was predicting the worse case scenario for this beast. Its projected path was also the worse case scenario for New Orleans. As the northern part of the storm got significantly over land with its eye still off shore, it slowed a little as energy was transferred to land. In a basic sense when over warm water energy transfers from the water to the Hurricane. When over land the opposite typically occurs. Many people apparently mistook the slowdown due to first contact with land as a general sign that the storm weakened. Then its path wobbled slightly to the east of New Orleans. Unfortunately that slight wobble did not make much of a difference to New Orleans because the storm was so large. Greater New Orleans was caught between the strongest Cat 4 Hurricane to hit the US and the Mississippi Delta.

382 posted on 08/30/2005 8:21:33 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: LibSnubber

I've been silently following your posts. I sincerely hope that all of yours come out of this one intact.

FWIW, for you and the great people of LA, MS, AL and FL, who welcomed me warmly when I lived around those parts, please allow me to lend you some comfort.

Living in Puerto Rico I have endured a number of hurricanes and their aftermath throughout my life. It's tough, but the American character is even tougher. Nature has a way of healing itself. The dead go on to better things. The living will become better people because of the adversity they have endured.

New Orleans and Gulf Shores and other places are not destroyed. They are not gone. They are under temporary renovations. The waters will recede. The streets will be cleaned. The levees replaced and improved. Homes will be repaired or replaced. Life will be again normal IN MONTHS.

When Marilyn hit the USVI next door, we thought it would take years for them to get back on their feet. They got up and running for the high tourist season in three months.

As for me, I am pledging here $100.00 each to Baptists Relief and the Salvation Army in your area. I'll send more until it hurts. You mainlanders have been very generous when we islanders get hit. We feel your pain and we pray with you.

I can only get better from here on out.


383 posted on 08/30/2005 8:21:33 AM PDT by cll
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To: HankReardon
Please take technical repair talk to another thread. How is that helping anyone find lost relatives or friends?

Hank, please, really not the time or place to nurse a petty grudge

384 posted on 08/30/2005 8:21:55 AM PDT by apackof2 (In my simple way, I guess you could say I'm living in the BIG TIME)
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To: dirtboy

The SuperDome generator is still running - for now. Food and water are in place and being distributed there.


385 posted on 08/30/2005 8:22:06 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: dirtboy

These patients should be helicoptered out. Assuming there are helicopters available.

I heard the crit pts are being evacuated by boat to the interstate and then by ambulance to BR and other areas.

They are helicopter evacuating the children and baby pts out.


386 posted on 08/30/2005 8:22:20 AM PDT by LibSnubber (Lafayette, LA........PRAYER AGAINST STORMS on my homepage)
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To: NautiNurse

blam and son are doing fine here near Bellingrath Gardens, just south of Theodore, Ala. Sporadic damage. No power. Starting clean up now.


387 posted on 08/30/2005 8:22:37 AM PDT by blam
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To: cgk

They are blocking all entrance into the state. I don't think I have ever heard of measures so drastic.


388 posted on 08/30/2005 8:23:12 AM PDT by LibWrangler
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To: Pyro7480

Here in VA Beach, we have a service, not sure which one, that comes and picks up stuff once a month. Would there be something like that in your area?


389 posted on 08/30/2005 8:23:21 AM PDT by hawkk
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To: dirtboy

Oh, and the steel roof is still intact except for two moderate-sized panels and a couple of inspection hatches. The fabric roof/sealer is gone, but the steel roof, while not waterproof, is largely intact and is a LOT better than nothing.


390 posted on 08/30/2005 8:23:42 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr; dirtboy
WDSU reports that the patients in threatened hospitals are being moved (I'd assume by boat) to the SuperDome.

That would include the 1000 patients in Tulane Hospital, where the water continues to rise. God have mercy.

391 posted on 08/30/2005 8:23:51 AM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: LibWrangler

I know I haven't. And now there is martial law in New Orleans? Is that correct?


392 posted on 08/30/2005 8:23:51 AM PDT by cgk (We'll have to deal w/ the networks. One way to do that is to drain the swamp they live in - Rumsfeld)
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To: andyandval

Then you have to hope it doesn't end up like Grand Forks, ND back during the big flood where most of the buildings downtown burnt to the ground AFTER the floodwaters were there.


393 posted on 08/30/2005 8:23:55 AM PDT by MNlurker
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To: alancarp

Have a friend in Ocean Springs, MS. She had gotten out, but now plans on going back. Any word on that place?


394 posted on 08/30/2005 8:23:55 AM PDT by technochick99 (firearm of choice: Sig Sauer....)
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To: NautiNurse

NautiNurse:

"How deep is Lake Ponchartrain?"

I don't know, but I suspect it isn't very deep. The "container" is essentially sand, which has a low angle of repose.

The key right now, is how high the surface of Lake P. is relative to normal. Unless the flooding in downtown NO moves enough water to lower it, that level is how deep NO will flood. Keep in mind, major breaches on the River side (which I have not seen yet) mean that the storms effects over the entire Mississippi watershed (which are still in progress) will contribute to the final levels in NO.

At this point, it is not the flooding we need to be concerned about, it is the RATE of flooding. Rising water is infinitely preferable to rushing water.


395 posted on 08/30/2005 8:24:11 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: sinkspur

Sinkspur! Glad you're here.


396 posted on 08/30/2005 8:24:14 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: RetiredArmy

LOL!


397 posted on 08/30/2005 8:25:01 AM PDT by toldyou
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To: LibSnubber

God be with you and yours. My son-in-law is co-captain of an oil tanker that was missing in the huricane after leaving Lake Charles with a load of fuel oil destined for the east coast. He just emailed they're safe, and almost to Tampa,now, but all the men are really, really seasick. I pray you get good news today, too. God is good.


398 posted on 08/30/2005 8:25:01 AM PDT by texaslil (and)
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To: dirtboy

I am betting they will just have to leave the "walking wounded" and take the more serious ones to more apt locations.


399 posted on 08/30/2005 8:25:02 AM PDT by aft_lizard (This space waiting for a post election epiphany it now is: Question Everything)
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To: Spktyr
The SuperDome generator is still running - for now. Food and water are in place and being distributed there.

Just enough power for light, no ventilation and the toilets aren't working - and there isn't a big stockpile of food and water.

Not the place, IMO, to take patients unless they aren't very sick.

400 posted on 08/30/2005 8:25:13 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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