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Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part IX
NOAA - NHC and Various ^ | 29 August 2005 | NOAA - NHC

Posted on 08/29/2005 2:08:51 PM PDT by NautiNurse

Hurricane Katrina made landfall today at 6:10AM CDT, and she continues to drive northward into Mississippi and Alabama. Several local radar sites are down. Tornado and flash flood watches and warnings are widespread.

President Bush has declared major disaster areas, clearing the way for federal aid.

The following links are self-updating:

Public Advisory Currently published every 3 hours 5A, 8A, 11A, 2P, etc. ET
NHC Discussion Published every six hours 6A, 11A, 6P, 11P
Three Day Forecast Track
Five Day Forecast Track
Navy Storm Track
Katrina Track Forecast Archive Nice loop of each NHC forecast track for both three and five day
Forecast Models
Alternate Hurricane Models via Skeetobite

Wind Speed Data

Images:


Birmingham AL Radar

Mobile Long Range Radar Loop

Memphis Radar

Montgomery AL Long Range Radar

Storm Floater IR Loop
Storm Floater Still & Loop Options
Color Enhanced IR Loop

Other Resources:

Birmingham AL Weather
Meridian MS Weather (Radar down at this time)
Jackson MS Weather (Radar down at this time)


Hurricane Katrina NOLA Photos


Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part V
Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm 12


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Florida; US: Georgia; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: hurricane; hurricanekatrina; katrina; tropical
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To: Howlin

Someone said you have to offer them accommodations...


2,001 posted on 08/29/2005 11:01:32 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Diddle E. Squat

When that guy says 1000 to 2000 casualities, does he mean deaths?

And what was the square mileage he just mentioned?


2,002 posted on 08/29/2005 11:02:07 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

In prior years, probably yes, because this is the same area severely flooded in 1969 when they blew up a levee to save (richer) New Orleans, and many of those houses appear to be much older than 36 years. Don't know about current day regulations.


2,003 posted on 08/29/2005 11:02:40 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: nwctwx

From the St. Bernard Parrish website:

11:00 a.m. - The National Weather Service reported that a levee broke on the Industrial Canal near the St. Bernard-Orleans parish line (Tennessee St.), and 3 to 10 feet of flooding was possible (with Arabi (MAP) receiving some degree of rising water). (Info: The Industrial Canal is the 5.5-mile waterway that connects the Mississippi River to the Intracoastal Waterway).

St. Bernard Parish Office of Emergency Preparedness says the parish's two shelters at Chalmette High and St. Bernard High are suffering much damage with flooding. He said Chalmette High shelter is losing its roof, and St. Bernard High has many broken windows/glass. There are estimates of 300-plus refugees at the two sites. "We cannot see the tops of the levees!" --Director OEP, Larry Ingargiola

12:00 P.M. - Most of the parish has no power and widespread flooding is reported. Phone services are severely hampered into/out of the parish. Estimated 40,000 Homes are flooded.

12:30 P.M. - Chalmette's Gibb Drive and community is reported underwater to roof. Some citizens were driven to rooftops.

2:00 P.M. - Communications into the New Orleans/St. Bernard area are little to none due to power and downed telecommunications equipment and massive calls into state .

2:30 PM. - National Guard Armory submerged. Reports about the 911 Center on St. Bernard Parish (near the Palms) was severely damaged as well as the Meraux Food Store in Meraux.

3:00 P.M. - Approximately 150 people were sighted on rooftops where approx. 8-10 feet (perhaps more) of water in area. Included on roofs were WDSU reporter (and St. Bernard resident) Heath Allen & photographer on a Government Complex rooftop). Search and Rescue teams are being dispensed to areas hard hit. Presently no deaths have been reported as was sighted in New Orleans.

3:30 P.M. - Reports about area around Violet Canal had 8-12 Feet of Water. Officials plan on an aerial view to access information in the parish at its earliest opportunity. Parish and Federal officials plan on its own teamwork to help determine degree of damage in order to seek Federal assistance. President Bush, perhaps and Governor Blanco who has ordered officials to block re-entry to communities deemed affected by Katrina until authorities can access the damage. "Please be patient and calm."

4:00 P.M. - Entergy reports: 700,000 or 92% of the utility's 770,000 customers in metro New Orleans are without power on storm day.

4:30 P.M. - CNN reports that "It's like Armageddon!" (Describing how she feels about Katrina's miserable appearance).

5:00 P.M. - "Boats manned by Wildlife and Fisheries officials have been deployed to rescue residents stranded in St. Bernard AND Mobile medical teams are prepared to act quickly." (-Gov. Blanco). It's entirely possible in many places that water is contaminated, and it may take quite a while to restore power to the metro area.

http://www.st-bernard.la.us/


2,004 posted on 08/29/2005 11:02:47 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: flair2000

Yes.

And he was eating dinner with his family before THEY helicoptered out!


2,005 posted on 08/29/2005 11:02:58 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

By this time tomorrow, they will be total losses. No chance in **** of salvaging them at that point.

Tear down, start over. If they start over - it would not surprise me if they just raze vast tracts and never rebuild them.


2,006 posted on 08/29/2005 11:03:28 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Some of the older ones, with already creaky foundations, probably be raized and rebuilt. The older ones that are more up to spec will probably survive.


2,007 posted on 08/29/2005 11:03:42 PM PDT by Maigrey (1-800-PrayerWarrior - Just a ping away)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Elsewhere the water should have subsided a good bit, with homes at least 5' or more above sea level. At least that is my hope.

With all the water being dumped into the Mississippi River drainage basin (all of it so far), you can expect the Mississippi to be at flood stage for many days to come. In fact, it might get much worse before it gets better. All of it eventually will have to flow out through the city of New Orleans. Can the levees that are already stressed by the flooding downstream be able to cope with the mass of water that will be coming in the next few days?

2,008 posted on 08/29/2005 11:04:18 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: BurbankKarl

Yes you can, because they did on Sunday morning. But enforcing that is another matter. The point of the mandatory order is to convey the seriousness, and spur movement of those who aren't defiant.


2,009 posted on 08/29/2005 11:04:38 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Howlin

caulties include injuries. Fatalities are just that. 8-(


2,010 posted on 08/29/2005 11:04:48 PM PDT by Maigrey (1-800-PrayerWarrior - Just a ping away)
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To: Howlin

Howlin, I am so mad! There is absolutely NO excuse for this. They should have sent buses to those neighborhoods to get those people out of there. It's insane! They knew for days this was coming.


2,011 posted on 08/29/2005 11:05:19 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("You must call evil by it's name" GW Bush ......... It's name is Terror)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

There estimating 1000-2000 casualties from people drowning in their homes.


2,012 posted on 08/29/2005 11:05:21 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Howlin

Is onyx in the bad weather zone of MS? I sure hope not.


2,013 posted on 08/29/2005 11:05:43 PM PDT by STARWISE (GITMO IS TOO GOOD FOR THESE TRAITORS -- SEND THEM ALL TO EGYPT FOR QUESTIONING.)
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To: rwfromkansas

I'm a bit stunned about that. Hopefully it isn't in response to something tragic.


2,014 posted on 08/29/2005 11:06:01 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Spktyr

And where will those people live?


2,015 posted on 08/29/2005 11:06:10 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: luckystarmom

Should be "They are". I guess I still need to proof read my posts.


2,016 posted on 08/29/2005 11:06:19 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Howlin

He went on to say 'people stranded on roofs". But it wont surprise me when we hear the death toll. How long will they have to hang on? Lots are old, infirm, handicapped. It's just dreadful. I hope rescue can go on during the night but the resources are limited.


2,017 posted on 08/29/2005 11:06:33 PM PDT by HoHoeHeaux
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To: supercat

Yes, you are right that the power increase is to compensate for head loss. When you are pumping water into Lake Pontchartrain, you have to operate the pump at a head to compensate for the difference in height being pumped and for the head loss in the pipes. The pressure of the water exiting will be same as the medium that it is entering (not at a much higher pressure). If at any point in time it is higher, the flow would increase until it was equal at exit. When flow increases, head loss goes up. Therefore, there is a balance between flow rate, head loss, and pump head. Head loss (friction in the piping and the energy required to change the direction of water in horizontal turns of the pipe) is still the controlling factor. The power needed is still proportional to the cube of the volumetric flow rate.


2,018 posted on 08/29/2005 11:06:35 PM PDT by burzum
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

I don't know. My parents' home flooded several years ago. The water quickly came up about 36 inches in the house then went down really quickly as well. They still had to tear out all of the drywall, insulation, etc and essentially gut the first floor for about an hour and a half of water.


2,019 posted on 08/29/2005 11:06:46 PM PDT by AggieMom x 3
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To: Maigrey

Thanks; I've lost track of the meaning of words.


2,020 posted on 08/29/2005 11:07:15 PM PDT by Howlin
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