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Live Thread - Hurricane Katrina, Part IV (Update: Now a Category 5 )
NOAA - NHC ^ | 27 August 2005 | NOAA - NHC

Posted on 08/27/2005 8:05:55 PM PDT by NautiNurse

Hurricane warnings and watches are posted. Hurricane Katrina continues to strengthen in the Gulf of Mexico. The forecast models continue to converge upon New Orleans. However, all interests in the northern Gulf of Mexico should follow the path of this very large and dangerous storm, and be prepared for a major hurricane landfall. There have been reports of coastal animals leaving in droves for higher ground. Meanwhile, New Orleans continues to suggest that residents evacuate.

The following links are self-updating:

Public Advisory Currently published every 3 hours 5A, 8A, 11A, 2P, etc. ET
NHC Discussion Published every six hours 6A, 11A, 6P, 11P
Three Day Forecast Track
Five Day Forecast Track
Navy Storm Track
Katrina Track Forecast Archive Nice loop of each NHC forecast track for both three and five day
Forecast Models
Alternate Hurricane Models via Skeetobite
Bouy Data Louisiana/Mississippi

Buoy Data Florida

Images:


New Orleans/Baton Rouge Experimental Radar Subject to delays and outages - and well worth the wait

Mobile Long Range Radar Loop

New Orleans/Baton Rouge Radar

Ft. Polk, LA Long Range Radar Loop

Northwest Florida Long Range Radar

Storm Floater IR Loop
Storm Floater Still & Loop Options
Color Enhanced IR Loop

Other Resources:


Hurricane Wind Risk Very informative tables showing inland wind potential by hurricane strength and forward motion
Central Florida Hurricane Center
New Orleans Web Cams Loads of web cam sites here. The sites have been very slow due to high traffic
New Orleans Music Online Couldn't resist--love that jazz
Golden Triangle Weather Page Nice Beaumont weather site with lots of tracks and graphics
Hurricane City
Crown Weather Tropical Website Offers a variety of storm info, with some nice track graphics

Live streaming:
copy/paste into player:


WWL-TV/DT New Orleans (WMP) - mms://beloint.wm.llnwd.net/beloint_wwltv
WVTM-TV/DT Birmingham (WMP) - mms://a1256.l1289835255.c12898.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1256/12898/v0001/reflector:35255
WDSU-TV/DT New Orleans (WMP) - http://mfile.akamai.com/12912/live/reflector:38202.asx
Hurricane City (Real Player) - http://hurricanecity.com/live.ram
ABCNews Now (Real Player) - http://reallive.stream.aol.com/ramgen/redundant/abc/now_hi.rm

Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm 12

Category Wind Speed Barometric Pressure Storm Surge Damage Potential
Tropical
Depression
< 39 mph
< 34 kts
    Minimal
Tropical
Storm
39 - 73 mph
34 - 63 kts
    Minimal
Hurricane 1
(Weak)
74 - 95 mph
64 - 82 kts
28.94" or more
980.02 mb or more
4.0' - 5.0'
1.2 m - 1.5 m
Minimal damage to vegetation
Hurricane 2
(Moderate)
96 - 110 mph
83 - 95 kts
28.50" - 28.93"
965.12 mb - 979.68 mb
6.0' - 8.0'
1.8 m - 2.4 m
Moderate damage to houses
Hurricane 3
(Strong)
111 - 130 mph
96 - 112 kts
27.91" - 28.49"
945.14 mb - 964.78 mb
9.0' - 12.0'
2.7 m - 3.7 m
Extensive damage to small buildings
Hurricane 4
(Very strong)
131 - 155 mph
113 - 135 kts
27.17" - 27.90"
920.08 mb - 944.80 mb
13.0' - 18.0'
3.9 m - 5.5 m
Extreme structural damage
Hurricane 5
(Devastating)
Greater than 155 mph
Greater than 135 kts
Less than 27.17"
Less than 920.08 mb
Greater than 18.0'
Greater than 5.5m
Catastrophic building failures possible


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Florida; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: hurricane; hurricanekatrina; katrina; tropical; weather
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To: NautiNurse; Admin Moderator
I don't mean to be pissy, but could somebody explain to me why a thread about a current event is locked and then transferred to a "new thread" (actually, thread IV) over a period of few hours? Presumably, posters to the prior thread(s) could move over but how many might just say WTH? So I ask, what's the point of this action? As I recall, the 9-11 threads had many thousands of posts. Is there value added by tactic?
221 posted on 08/27/2005 9:31:03 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Beware the Socialist-Islamist alignment.)
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To: Ingtar

Apologies -- in that case, you can definitely imagine what's in there. :)

-Dan

222 posted on 08/27/2005 9:32:35 PM PDT by Flux Capacitor (Trust me. I know what I'm doing.)
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To: Ellesu

This jack*ss is just now consulting with his attorneys???

This is malfeasance of a unbelievable magnitude that he never put this in his contingency plans prior.....

Geeez....most public officials are real morons....

NeverGore :^)


223 posted on 08/27/2005 9:32:56 PM PDT by nevergore (“It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.”)
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To: SE Mom

I read that -thank you SE Mom.


224 posted on 08/27/2005 9:33:20 PM PDT by fatima
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Glad I live in the hills in the north. All we get is snow and a rare ice storm. Most of the critters are pretty tame, too.


225 posted on 08/27/2005 9:33:33 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

With the high volume threads, it was suggested to me several months ago to limit the volume of posts to 1000. As well, the links at the top of the thread are updated to reflect the position of the storm.


226 posted on 08/27/2005 9:33:51 PM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: Gabz

Friend of mine from NO just emailed me. She said they are expecting 22 ft storm surge, which is high enough to breach the seawall.

She also said: "The mayor was on one of the local stations and says by tomorrow morning he will issue a mandatory evac orders. It'll be a first."


227 posted on 08/27/2005 9:34:33 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Irving Two Smokes

"Where there is Jim, disaster is sure to follow."

Isn't the rule to try to move at right angles to the guy?


228 posted on 08/27/2005 9:35:45 PM PDT by kenth
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

It'll be too late.


229 posted on 08/27/2005 9:35:47 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

You raise several good points. New Orleans is not built on bedrock.

Maybe we watch too many disaster movies!

The Twin Towers were supposed to be indestructible.


230 posted on 08/27/2005 9:35:54 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: nevergore

From one story I just read:

"According to Nagin, if 18 to 20 feet of water came into the city it could be six or seven weeks to restore power and the Superdome and hotels would grow uncomfortable."

This guy is a moron. I bet the dead bodies littering the area would be a nuisance?


231 posted on 08/27/2005 9:35:54 PM PDT by sonsofliberty2000
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To: metmom

Now you know why I live high up enough on the base of a mountain where it's impossible for me to get street floods - unless most of Salt Lake and Ogden is underwater, too!


232 posted on 08/27/2005 9:35:58 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

It becomes more difficult to load after 1000 posts


233 posted on 08/27/2005 9:35:58 PM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: metmom

The LSU guy who did the studies on how much the city could handle before the levee was breached speculated that the eye of a Cat 5 passing within approx. 30 miles of New Orleans would cause the catastrophic flooding. A bit more on the east side, because the rotation of the winds would drive water north and west into Lake Pontchartrain, then more to the southwest into the spillway west of the city, and the west side levee is apparently the weakest link. It also would eventually drive that water south as the wind came from the north, which might also breach the city's north shore levees.

The worst case scenario is an overtopping of the levee where not only the below sea-level bowl the city is in fills up, but storm surge and waves come in on top of that ending up above the roof of some homes. The next worst case scenario is a levee breach where the bowl fills, but not as deep. If the storm is far enough away that the levee holds against storm surge, then there could be flooding and wind damage, but not as totally devastating and nowhere near the loss of life. As long as the levees hold and aren't overtopped, the pumps should continue to work.

Hence the importance of where the eye path ends up, and why if the path shifts further east to Gulfport, it could make a huge difference.


234 posted on 08/27/2005 9:36:21 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
the water's nasty

Don't forget that they bury their dead above ground in NO.

235 posted on 08/27/2005 9:36:37 PM PDT by Semper911 (Real estate is not real anymore.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

The mayor is flying his family out I heard. He must be chartering a plane or something. Commercial flights are cancelled. Those in the airport are stuck. Bush should send in those military cargo planes, but that is just my opinion.


236 posted on 08/27/2005 9:37:06 PM PDT by Torie
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To: metmom

If the storm's not really supposed to come in until Monday morning, they could get a lot of people out on Sunday, especially with all the people that left today.


237 posted on 08/27/2005 9:37:14 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: nevergore

In such an obvious situation at this, the mission is clear: issue the blessed evac order now, THEN consult the attys. If it's illegal, you go personally and FIND the Controlling Legal Authority and then you WATCH him/her sign the order before you rescind your own. That's the way you're supposed to keep the public safe!


238 posted on 08/27/2005 9:37:53 PM PDT by alancarp (When does it cease to be "Freedom of the Press" and become outright SEDITION?)
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To: Flux Capacitor

HAH! I laugh at hurricanes.


239 posted on 08/27/2005 9:38:00 PM PDT by Search4Truth (The spirit of freedom is more powerful than the rule of tyrants.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Dear Lord.........

I mean, for crying out loud - Delaware is run by (corrupt)incompetents, and is not as much of a 'cane target, but even they have better plans than what I have been seeing out of LA today........


240 posted on 08/27/2005 9:38:43 PM PDT by Gabz (USSG Warning: portable sewing machines are known to cause broken ankles)
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