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Report: Fetuses Don't Feel Pain
FOXNews ^ | 8/23/05 | AP

Posted on 08/23/2005 2:34:59 PM PDT by workerbee

A review of medical evidence has found that fetuses likely don't feel pain until the final months of pregnancy, a powerful challenge to abortion opponents who hope that discussions about fetal pain will make women think twice about ending pregnancies.

Critics angrily disputed the findings and claimed the report is biased.

"They have literally stuck their hands into a hornet's nest," said Dr. Kanwaljeet Anand, a fetal pain (search) researcher at the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, who believes fetuses as young as 20 weeks old feel pain. "This is going to inflame a lot of scientists who are very, very concerned and are far more knowledgeable in this area than the authors appear to be. This is not the last word -- definitely not."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; cultureofdeath; fetalpain; fetus; fetuses; lies; pain; silentscream
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To: workerbee

If an adult human gets enough morphine before you cut their head off they don't feel no pain either.

Doesn't exactly change the argument about whether its ok to cut off adults heads does it ?

(NOTE: This logic only works for non-muslims).


101 posted on 08/23/2005 5:34:56 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Pyro7480

Bingo.


102 posted on 08/23/2005 5:35:11 PM PDT by 359Henrie
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To: RightWingAtheist
This is science , not the garbage these idiots are trying to sell.
103 posted on 08/23/2005 5:37:59 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: RightWingAtheist

I forgot the tag line.


104 posted on 08/23/2005 5:39:18 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Atheism is not conservative!)
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To: workerbee

Firstly, I don't believe them. Secondly, even if it were true, it doesn't change the fact that abortion is the murder of an unborn child. They can try to distance themselves by using less charged terms such as fetus, but it's human life no matter what name they chose to use.


105 posted on 08/23/2005 5:52:53 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: thompsonsjkc; odoso; animoveritas; DaveTesla; mercygrace; Laissez-faire capitalist; ...

Moral Absolutes Ping.

This is so sickening I don't have time to make the long comments I would like to make. So it's do-it-yourself comment time. There are already some good ones.

The amazing mental contortions people will go through to justify evil is beyond belief.

Freepmail me if you want on/off this pinglist.


106 posted on 08/23/2005 5:53:22 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: workerbee

Nerve endings, along with a spinal column and brain mass, are developing in babies within the first 20 weeks, therefore, babies would have to feel some sort of pain.


107 posted on 08/23/2005 5:53:54 PM PDT by moonman
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To: eureka!
I heard this on ABC radio news on the hour. The spiel was something like "even though a fetus will react and try to pull away, the scientists said it did not have the capacity for pain until 30 weeks." Amazing (and sad) that it could be said with a straight face....
Probably the same people who say that fetuses do not have brains until the second or third month.
108 posted on 08/23/2005 5:54:49 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy (They're coming to take me away.....)
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To: highlander_UW

Fetal Pain
A Systematic Multidisciplinary Review of the Evidence

Susan J. Lee, JD; Henry J. Peter Ralston, MD; Eleanor A. Drey, MD, EdM; John Colin Partridge, MD, MPH; Mark A. Rosen, MD


JAMA. 2005;294:947-954.

Context Proposed federal legislation would require physicians to inform women seeking abortions at 20 or more weeks after fertilization that the fetus feels pain and to offer anesthesia administered directly to the fetus. This article examines whether a fetus feels pain and if so, whether safe and effective techniques exist for providing direct fetal anesthesia or analgesia in the context of therapeutic procedures or abortion.




Its not science, its politics. Garbage.


109 posted on 08/23/2005 6:04:13 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Atheism is not conservative!)
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To: workerbee

Don't you just love how they get a Doctor from Arkansas (no offense to AR) instead of rebutting this report with a doctor in Chicago or NY. A nice subtle insinuation that the hicks in the Midwest are not enlightened enough to understand this topic


110 posted on 08/23/2005 6:05:56 PM PDT by dannyboy72 (How long will you hold onto the rope when Liberals pull us off the cliff?)
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To: workerbee
Report: Fetuses Don't Feel Pain

If so why I'll go to jail if i shoot a damn cat trespassing and stinking off my property? The cat feels no pain. Why people killing unborn innocent babies do not go to jail?

Challenging any stinking liberal, animal or woman "rights" activist to give me a LOGICAL, INTELLIGENT, SCIENTIFIC, and SOFISTICATED answer

111 posted on 08/23/2005 6:06:36 PM PDT by Anticommie
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To: A.A. Cunningham
"Silent Scream"

My Ma'... link.

112 posted on 08/23/2005 6:10:26 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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To: workerbee
So what? Based on this idea, as long as I slip a person a powerful pain killer, it is OK to murder them?

Strange "logic"
113 posted on 08/23/2005 6:21:03 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: SaveTheChief
How does this justify the murder of an innocent life?

Exactly. Taking the word "torturous" out of the phrase "torturous murder of a small child" doesn't really change much, does it?

114 posted on 08/23/2005 6:37:04 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (I don't want any free Mumia. It's stringy and tough to digest.)
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To: TBarnett34
A quadrapleagic wouldn't feel pain if you cut off a finger, either. That doesn't make it okay.

Bears repeating.

115 posted on 08/23/2005 6:38:42 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (I don't want any free Mumia. It's stringy and tough to digest.)
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To: news blogger

Why wouldn't it be news?


116 posted on 08/23/2005 6:40:24 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (I don't want any free Mumia. It's stringy and tough to digest.)
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To: workerbee

It amazes me how much BS will be put out there to try to make baby killing acceptable.


118 posted on 08/23/2005 6:41:45 PM PDT by Isabelle
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To: workerbee
see Silent Scream.
119 posted on 08/23/2005 6:41:45 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (see my FR page for a link to the tribute to Terri Schaivo, a short video presentation.)
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To: workerbee

Just like Terri Schiavo didn't feel pain and dehydration/starvation are painless.


120 posted on 08/23/2005 6:42:15 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Member since December 1998)
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