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Palestinians Plan 'Carnival of Victory'
http://service.spiegel.de ^ | Annette Grossbongardt and Stefan Simons

Posted on 08/22/2005 8:40:00 AM PDT by manny613

Following the swift withdrawal of Jewish settlers from the Gaza Strip, the Palestinians now plan to move forward in developing their own state. The United States is already urging Israel to agree to further concessions, while hardliners at Hamas and the Islamic Jihad push for expanding their holy war.

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To: conserv13
Bullets falling rarely kill.

5000-lb bullets do...

21 posted on 08/22/2005 8:49:20 AM PDT by Zeppelin (If we lose the war on terror... http://www.ebaumsworld.com/waronterrorism.html)
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To: Caged in Canuckistan

Darn, that's actually:

frum.nationalreview.com


22 posted on 08/22/2005 8:49:30 AM PDT by Caged in Canuckistan (A message from Canada: GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!)
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To: AzSteven

LOL - in a few weeks Gaza will be nothing but an open sewer.


23 posted on 08/22/2005 8:49:58 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: manny613

"Hi! I'll have a breaded pork chop on a stick and an extra-large beer!"


24 posted on 08/22/2005 8:51:37 AM PDT by RichInOC (SHAITAN: HOW ARE YOU HABIBI!! ALL YOUR SOUL ARE BELONG TO US. HA HA HA HA....)
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To: Junior_G

No-But I spoke to many who feel that as Begin did last time-Israel will strike Iran if they feel threatened -Israel won't care what US says and at this point I am 100% sure that Bush wouldn't mind someone does the "dirty work for him".
(He's hinted as such)


25 posted on 08/22/2005 8:51:46 AM PDT by manny613 (Trying my best)
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To: manny613
I hope the savagery is televised.
26 posted on 08/22/2005 8:51:48 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: Mr. Mojo
A desperate attempt to win "hearts and minds" that will never be won.

Helps if the people whose hearts and minds are to be won have them in the first place.

27 posted on 08/22/2005 8:55:16 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Be a glowworm. A glowworm's never glum. How can you be grumpy when the sun shines out your bum?)
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To: Junior_G

This seems to me to be the only plausible explanation. It's Israel fortifying itself. Unfortunately, however, it was presented from a position of weakness and conciliation, and that has only emboldened the Palestinian nutcases, including their new great leader. But I guess they'll find out the true reason, sooner or later.


28 posted on 08/22/2005 9:00:25 AM PDT by livius
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To: Mr. Mojo; Salem

Re your #3;

Well, THIS American opines that Israel has already been coerced into way too many "concessions", and I'm ashamed of my own Government for doing what is so blatently stupid.

Admittedly, I'm no expert on ME affairs - but I get the strong sense that it's the Saudis who are "pressuring" the Adim. in DC to "pressure" our (former?) allies in Israel to keep retreating toward the sea.

And who has seen to it that our economy and security remains dependant on Saudi oil while vast resources under our own turf remain off limits?

Our domestic enemies are doing one bang-up job, with total impunity, aren't they?

The next scene may well be the "final solution" as Islamic coallition forces swoop down on Israel while Arabia gets a stranglehold on the fuel supplies of anyone inclined to intervene (is anyone other than the US in that catagory?) and China holds a nuke or two over our heads.

We'll be forced to stay out of it at the very least, if not join in the persecution.

The stage is all set, isn't it?

And the pattern is so consistant with ancient prophecy, that the outcome, as far as those of us who still believe that stuff are concerned, is a foregone conclusion.

Yesterday we saw a play in which our Sister in Law played a part... and how ironic;

"Fiddler on the Roof".

It's Deja Vu all over again.


29 posted on 08/22/2005 9:06:11 AM PDT by Uncle Jaque (Vigilance!)
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To: livius

All I can say is that I hope that is why they're doing it. Seeing the images of settlers being torn from their homes was, well, unsettling.


30 posted on 08/22/2005 9:08:52 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: manny613
Now, they just have more dirt to squat on with their hand out. They are not capable of making a home of it.
31 posted on 08/22/2005 9:14:12 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: Junior_G
Does that theory hold water with anyone else?

Well, look at it this way. Whose back is to the sea? Who no longer has any Jewish settlers to use as human shields?

Who is no longer constrained with the possibility of harming ones citizens?

32 posted on 08/22/2005 9:17:28 AM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: manny613
Palestinians Plan 'Carnival of Victory'

Just like the day after 9/11?

"Death to America! Death to Israel!!! Alululululululululululululululuahhhhhhh!

33 posted on 08/22/2005 9:23:10 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Good to see Miss Palestine is taking her title seriously and not resting on her laurels.


34 posted on 08/22/2005 9:30:03 AM PDT by clarissaexplainsitall (stewed tomatoes are just plain gross)
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To: manny613

Some folks opined that Israel should leave the infrastructure intact to garner international goodwill. I think that knockingit all down will be mor eeffective in showing how bad off the Pallies really are as they remain in undeveloped junkpiles and the poor saps that get to move in to give the terrorists human shields will be miserable without the opportunity to move into ready-made housing/businesses.


35 posted on 08/22/2005 9:36:57 AM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: trebb
Some folks opined that Israel should leave the infrastructure intact to garner international goodwill. I think that knockingit all down will be mor eeffective in showing how bad off the Pallies really are

Not only do the Palis want the roads, sewage treatment plant, irrigation systems, telephone lines, power lines, fresh water plumbing, and fiber optic communication lines that the Israelis installed, they also want the UN (read the United States) to pay for the huge apartment buildings they want erected.

And guess what? We are going to be paying for them.

But don't worry, in a few months, Gaza will look like every other Arab sector in Israel.


36 posted on 08/22/2005 9:48:27 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: syriacus

Barbeque, North Carolina style with mystery meat.


37 posted on 08/22/2005 10:03:50 AM PDT by Napoleon Solo
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To: Pessimist

Well, we paid for their rally flags so what's more money to throw away for bullets, fireworks and some donkey rides.


38 posted on 08/22/2005 10:06:16 AM PDT by Napoleon Solo
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To: Mr. Mojo
Does this mean that if the U.S. pushes Israel far enough, and things go from "dismal" to "utterly dismal" for Israel, that the U.S. will "set things right"?

They will kill or relocate all the mass-murdering "palestinians"?

39 posted on 08/22/2005 10:06:41 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: SkyPilot

I agree we will be pouring too much money into the area, but it will most likely go for Pali arms and bombs rather than for real infrastructure...


40 posted on 08/22/2005 10:08:18 AM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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