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Man killed by Sunrise police in drug raid had 2 ounces of marijuana
http://www.newsday.com/ ^ | August 10, 2005 | Brian Haas & Kevin Smith

Posted on 08/11/2005 1:12:44 PM PDT by freepatriot32

SUNRISE -- Police seized 2 ounces of marijuana at the home of Anthony Diotaiuto after shooting him 10 times, according to information on the drug raid released Tuesday.

Also Tuesday, while many friends and relatives of the 23-year-old bartender and student mourned him at a Davie funeral home, others appeared at a Sunrise City Commission meeting to demand an explanation for the fatal raid

"Do 2 ounces of marijuana constitute a death warrant?" asked Sunrise resident William de Larm, a friend of Diotaiuto's.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...


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To: takenoprisoner

Almost like the So. America death gangs masks,hoods and all the goodies.


481 posted on 08/12/2005 5:39:40 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: Taylor42

"Pick a subject you know something about. Two ounces of pot is not a lot of pot, certainly not worth killing about. This is a classic example of what's wrong with the war on drugs."

I used to live with some dealers back in my college days. They had bags of seeds and stems that were a few pounds worth. I guess they should have been killed, and me in the crossfire.


482 posted on 08/12/2005 6:00:46 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: 7thOF7th

"That man was shot for grabbing a gun. He was served a search warrant for POT. BIG difference!"

I hope someone rats you out as a drug dealer, as a joke, so we can read what you do when the nock comes at 6:15.

Cops aren't getting killed by people high on marijuana, its the coke and meth and DUI people doing the killing.


483 posted on 08/12/2005 6:06:28 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: 7thOF7th
I've read every comment on this thread.

Congratulations. You have taken my fear of and disdain for law enforcement, along with my increasing lack of faith in the justice system to a whole new level.

There are probably thousands of us out here with that same reaction.

484 posted on 08/12/2005 7:00:53 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper
This will be my one and only post to this thread (I will not be drawn in- similar to feeding a troll, in a sense) and that is to say:

I second your reaction with full agreement.

485 posted on 08/12/2005 8:07:01 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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To: 7thOF7th

My STRONG feeling is, ANYBODY breaking into someone's house should wind up taking that long dirt nap. Cop or no. There is NO EXCUSE for no-knock raids, PERIOD. And if you're a cop who's into that ninja b.s., pray you NEVER do a raid at a combat vet's place or it could be you. If you're one a them that gets off on the rush of kicking in doors, you might, sooner, rather than later, run into one. I promise, if I hear that happened to you, I'd really try to feel some sort of sadness at your passing. Really. Nuff said. And you do not DESERVE to use taps at funerals of cops who die doing such despicable things. TAPS is for HEROES, not thugs.


486 posted on 08/12/2005 9:26:54 PM PDT by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: antaresequity; 7thOF7th

His name is not Jar. It is Dick. And he's never been a Marine. We have far MORE respect for the Constitution than Dick does. I'm sorry, Mr. Head does.


487 posted on 08/12/2005 9:38:31 PM PDT by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: dcwusmc
What a bunch of cry babies. If you are a law abiding non-drug pushing citizen you don't have to worry about any police serving a warrant on you in this manner. However if you are as I suspect, an anarchist who believes all police are corrupt and deserve not to go home at the end of a day, choke on it! If you sell drugs and don't expect the police will apprehend you, you are not being real.

As I said earlier in a thread, if I am point on a breach and a perp points a gun at me he will take two center mass and I will go home to my family. I won't be happy I was forced to do it, but I will know it was the only option.

You wanna-be couch quarterbacks should get some sanity back in your lives and understand the fact that this country is founded on laws which are enforced by the police and adjudicated in the courts. Maybe you have forgotten you HS civics or maybe you think you are owed something for your service but no one is above the law. One other thing, I never claimed to be a Marine so learn to comprehend what you read before wasting you time typing dribble.
488 posted on 08/12/2005 11:43:28 PM PDT by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: 7thOF7th

More name-calling and other ad hominem attacks from someone who deals with reasonable questions about his untenable positions by turning up the volume every time. Not only do wear your ignorance on your sleeve, you expect people to salute it.


489 posted on 08/13/2005 5:35:05 AM PDT by Buzwardo
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To: freepatriot32

BTTT


490 posted on 08/13/2005 5:44:22 AM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: 7thOF7th

Hey, studly, your eyes must be brown, you are so full of it... or even green if, as I suspect, it's putrefied. First, our country was founded on the notion that we, the People, are sovereign adults, with total control over our own lives. We ceded SOME power and authority to government to act in our names and on our behalf in SEVERELY LIMITED areas. We did NOT, however, GIVE UP that power and authority. Further, we did NOT cede any power or authority to do things that we, ourselves could not LEGITIMATELY do. Committing murder under color of law is one of those little things we could not cede to thugs like you to do in our name.

HOW MANY TIMES have morons with badges gone into the wrong house? How many times have we read the horrifying but true tales of idiots run amok two or three blocks from their intended target? In other words, we ALL have to be concerned about becoming a target for your ilk.

No, NOT all cops are corrupt. REAL cops are homicide or robbery investigators. Cop-WANNABEES go into SWAT or vice so they can lord it over peaceful citizens or hassle potsmokers or hookers, the likeliest groups NOT to fight back. If you are, as you say, lead gun on a gang of door kickers, it speaks volumes about you, and none of it good.

With regard to me, I am a retired U.S. Marine and a Viet Nam veteran. I suspect I could see your pitiful 2 9's and raise you a 30-06 and not raise a sweat. And I would already BE home with my loved one. I would be doing my job of PROTECTING my home and loved one.

AND, in the early days of the Republic, we HAD NO "PROFESSIONAL" POLICE OFFICERS. We had local sheriffs who raised a "hue and cry" to which armed citizens responded whenever a crime was committed. And NO ONE SERVED THESE BOGUS WARRANTS that permit such violent entries as you and yours commit. If they tried, THEY would have been on the other end of the law. Just as you should be. Provided you survive the encounter.

Nor did I say you had been a Marine. I said, in response to someone calling you a Jar Head, that you could NEVER have been one, as WE have respect for the Comstitution AND for our peaceful fellow citizens. What I said, Mr. Head, was that your first name had to be Dick.


491 posted on 08/13/2005 7:58:03 AM PDT by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: tamalejoe
It's clearly time for the war on some drugs to go, and for marijuana and anything else like it to be legalized on the same basis as booze is.

Seems like shootin' them is pretty effective.

492 posted on 08/13/2005 8:08:53 AM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: t_skoz
"..2 ounces is certainly enough to deal.."

Remember, every user is a dealer..

493 posted on 08/13/2005 8:11:18 AM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: 7thOF7th
What a bunch of cry babies. If you are a law abiding non-drug pushing citizen you don't have to worry about any police serving a warrant on you in this manner.

There have been numerous incident of warrant having the incorrect address or being factually incorrect. The police are never punished for even egregious faults and lies relating to these warrants. People are sometimes killed during these "mistakes" and the police are almost always exonerated. In all the above cases the police are in charge of policing themselves.

The result is a constabulary that is above the law and corrupt. When you can bust into a totally innocent citizens house and kill him and NOT go to jail for life you are vermin that need to be removed from American society.

The bulk of Police have a very hard job and do it well. I had interactions with two yesterday that came out and ran a thief down. The ones that dress in black and masks are to be feared however. They are being employed recklessly and haphazardly and have NO accountability.

494 posted on 08/13/2005 8:58:09 AM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: dcwusmc
I'll go through your libertarian skew point by point so you understand the law vs. hyperbole....maybe.

"Committing murder under color of law is one of those little things we could not cede to thugs like you to do in our name."

Murder is for a judge and jury to decide...The LAW!

"HOW MANY TIMES have morons with badges gone into the wrong house? "

Statistically, probably so disparate the numbers per million people would be incalculable and far from systemic. (however, it is unfortunate anytime mistakes are made).

"If you are, as you say, lead gun on a gang of door kickers, it speaks volumes about you, and none of it good."

You must be hearing a lot of voices if you are hearing "Volumes" about men who perform a duty which requires attributes such as: Professionalism, Awareness, and most of all Courage. Since you say you are a retired Vietnam Marine I can understand your perspective of oppression. Our forces dished it out by the truckload in that war and we LOST because of it! I'm not saying you did any of this but I'm sure you witnessed it, hence understand the impact. Maybe this is why you are espousing anarchy here in this thread.

"AND, in the early days of the Republic, we HAD NO "PROFESSIONAL" POLICE OFFICERS. We had local sheriffs who raised a "hue and cry" to which armed citizens responded whenever a crime was committed. And NO ONE SERVED THESE BOGUS WARRANTS that permit such violent entries as you and yours commit."

You should check your facts, anarchy reined in the 1800s in NY NY, Washington, San Fransisco, Tucson, Dodge City, Chicago, and many other cities. There was no due process because people would take law enforcement into their own hands and it imbued an atmosphere of fear and lawlessness. Hanging without trials was common and violence stifled civility. Is this the world you desire to go back to? If so you are the oppressor. Take off the rose colored glasses.

" I said, in response to someone calling you a Jar Head, that you could NEVER have been one, as WE have respect for the Constitution AND for our peaceful fellow citizens. What I said, Mr. Head, was that your first name had to be Dick."

Well what can I say hear? Your use of sophomoric characterizations allows me to understand you completely. You are not very astute or least of which circumspect. I served with CT teams (A lot more training then you went through I assure you!), in the early 80s when we had to clean up Carter's mess. For two weeks in a hot Lebanon April, I dug out 240 of our brothers from a pile of bombed out rubble, none of which were in one piece. So don't lecture ME on professionalism and duty. I served with honor and if you continue to malign my actions or my allegiance to the Constitution try backing it up with fact and not your twisted hyperbole.

Lets end this by getting back to the subject matter of the thread. Here are some Facts:

The two officers involved; Visners has been with Sunrise since 1997 and on the SWAT team since 1999. He was Officer of the Month for May 2000. Bruna has been with the department since 1999 and on the SWAT team since 2001. Both officers have no history of disciplinary problems, and neither has been involved in any previous shootings (Hardly the JBT mentality you purport). The department had the house under surveillance and made at least one "controlled" drug purchase there. The victim had a previous MJ arrest in Cooper City in 1998. The Broward State Attorney's Office will investigate the matter.
495 posted on 08/13/2005 10:19:48 AM PDT by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: longtermmemmory; somniferum

"as usual the media is cutting out the part of the story which this "victim" was probably either on probation OR had such a long record that a mandatory jail sentence was in the works."

longtermemory: I'm checking in late to this thread, but I couldn't help but reply to your posting. It is my belief that the "victim" was in possesion of a current CW Permit.

Are the police THAT stupid to issue a permit to someone "...on probation OR had such a long [criminal] record..."?????????

somniferum: I agree with you that 2 oz. of weed does not make one a drug dealer. As for the scales, I have at least 20 different types right here in my office. My herb business requires that I have state certified scales, plus I collect the old timers. I like your screen name.


496 posted on 08/13/2005 10:59:46 AM PDT by panaxanax
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To: panaxanax

As I reported earlier, I did run a check on him and only found traffic infractions on his record. i detailed them before. I did not see any open criminal cases either, but I only checked Miami-dade and broward.

I also did a check with www.findlaw.com and found that his 2 oz. did put him in the felony category. The selling to an uncover officers does put him in the delivery category.

You have to look at everything all as one picture because any one element alone is not enough. Scales alone is not enough, but a felony amount of pot, with dime bags, WITH scales is a different category than the the legitmat anything else.

After the whole thread, at this point I think this was a stupid young adult who decided to supliment his income via selling pot on the side. When the police burst in, his first thought was not "i am under arrest". His first thought was either "i am being robbed by druggies" or "the competition is here to shut me down".


497 posted on 08/13/2005 11:31:28 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Antonello
Do you realize that you are actually making a very good logical case supporting mandatory registration of guns? You and others who are posting similar boasts of intent to shoot at law enforcement agents serving a warrant at your home are indicative of why those officers would really like to know in advance if there is the likelihood that their target has a gun.

Nice try, Hillary...

Full Disclosure: Both sides on this particular point are over-reacting.

1. Those who feel the guy got what he deserved, come ON. The cops didn't have to kick the door in at 6:15 AM with a SWAT team, did they? They could've tried a couple of days to get him at work quietly, first.

2. Those who feel he is a martyr to the Gestapo thugs. Remember the cops did have (as far as I can tell) reasonable suspicion that he was BOTH a drug dealer AND armed. If I were a cop, that combo would make me nervous.

The problem is that we have two opposite extremes each using each other for an excuse. If the liberals didn't condone so much drug use, and then make excuses for the drug-related violence, we wouldn't have NEEDED no-knock swat raids.

No cheers, unfortunately.

498 posted on 08/13/2005 6:01:37 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: 7thOF7th
It takes a sworn affidavit from a wittiness

This is no laughing matter...

499 posted on 08/13/2005 6:02:57 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: darkangel82
a lot of people pretending to be conservatives aren't

By definition, ALL of the people PRETENDING to be conservatives aren't.

But what you mean (I think) is "a lot of the people whose writings seem at first glance to be conservative, aren't."

500 posted on 08/13/2005 6:05:21 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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