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Man killed by Sunrise police in drug raid had 2 ounces of marijuana
http://www.newsday.com/ ^ | August 10, 2005 | Brian Haas & Kevin Smith

Posted on 08/11/2005 1:12:44 PM PDT by freepatriot32

SUNRISE -- Police seized 2 ounces of marijuana at the home of Anthony Diotaiuto after shooting him 10 times, according to information on the drug raid released Tuesday.

Also Tuesday, while many friends and relatives of the 23-year-old bartender and student mourned him at a Davie funeral home, others appeared at a Sunrise City Commission meeting to demand an explanation for the fatal raid

"Do 2 ounces of marijuana constitute a death warrant?" asked Sunrise resident William de Larm, a friend of Diotaiuto's.

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To: somniferum
The scales and baggies would seem to indicate that he was dealing

I have a very nice triple beam balance scale left over from 25 years ago when I made silver castings and I have a box of ziplocs for the sandwiches I carry when I go to work. If my neighbor tells the police he has seen these things I suppose I will star in one of these headlines, too. Maybe I should hide my sandwiches when I go out to the car and surreptiously dispose of the triple beam.

261 posted on 08/11/2005 3:31:42 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: TKDietz
The thing is though that this would have never happened if the SWAT team hadn't have come to his home. They had a small time pot dealer here. They had a controlled buy so they had enough to convict him for delivery. They could have just picked him up at work and then sent officers over to search the home. Sending a team of guys with automatic weapons and ninja suits was unnecessary. One or two uniformed or plain clothed officers could have picked him up at work, without a big uproar. For that matter they could just execute the search warrant at his home while he was at work and then dropped by or called his work and asked him to turn himself in when he got off work. That may sound crazy but officers where I live often call people and tell them to turn themselves in. It's saves the defendant's the embarrassment of neighbors or coworkers seeing them taken away in cuffs, and it saves the cops from having to go out and make the arrest. This guy had two jobs, a house with a mortgage, and a mother there tying him to the area so he wasn't likely to run over a small time pot bust. These military style police tactics we are using more and more in this country are causing unnecessary deaths, sometimes to innocent people. We'll only see more of this the more they militarize police.

Better be careful, common sense will get you in trouble with *both* sides on this thread. :)

262 posted on 08/11/2005 3:32:17 PM PDT by Terabitten (Life, liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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To: longtermmemmory
I think the reason he was going for the gun is that he did not believe it was police but rather competition.

BINGO. You when a prize. Everyone repeat after me. If you are in a cash and carry bussiness you better own a gun. And if people come kicking in your door during predawn hours it better be some place you can get your hands on it.

263 posted on 08/11/2005 3:33:48 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: VRing

You will lose EVERY time!


264 posted on 08/11/2005 3:37:41 PM PDT by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: longtermmemmory
FL does not register guns.

Yeah. We don't register them here in California either. But a record is created when you transfer one. Of course they are supposed to be destroyed after a year or so (maybe someone can clear this up for me.) I shudder to think that the SWAT team might decide to execute a predawn no-knock search warrant on my home, because the State's Department of Justice informs them that I own a gun. Anyone who kicks in the door to my house at that time in the morning is likely to be "ducking hot lead" as others have put it.

265 posted on 08/11/2005 3:39:00 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: ThanhPhero
I have a very nice triple beam balance scale left over from 25 years ago when I made silver castings and I have a box of ziplocs for the sandwiches I carry when I go to work. If my neighbor tells the police he has seen these things I suppose I will star in one of these headlines, too. Maybe I should hide my sandwiches when I go out to the car and surreptiously dispose of the triple beam.

Do you keep your scale and baggies together with a supply of pot, and provide the police with enough probable cause to obtain a warrant by selling drugs to an undercover police agent? Bear in mind that a neighbor mentioning to police that you have a couple of legal items would never qualify as probable cause.

266 posted on 08/11/2005 3:40:30 PM PDT by Antonello
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To: longtermmemmory
Gee then you detain the guy when he comes out of his house to goto the store to buy a pack of smokes or something. Search his house find to two ounces, no gun play. No one gets shot.

Not as exciting as getting all dressed up in black pajamas and kicking in the door... I'll give you that.

267 posted on 08/11/2005 3:42:22 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: Old Professer

lol...


268 posted on 08/11/2005 3:42:23 PM PDT by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again just to make sure...)
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To: ContemptofCourt

Is it enough for ten bullets?


269 posted on 08/11/2005 3:43:28 PM PDT by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again just to make sure...)
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To: VRing

Don't hurt yourself by misconstruing the meaning of my words. Semantics are the tool of the weak minded.


270 posted on 08/11/2005 3:43:40 PM PDT by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: L98Fiero
he would not have been shot had he not tried to get his gun when the cops ordered him to freeze.

We don't know that that is what happened. We have only the officers' after-the-shooting account for it. Initially the department put out that they SWATed him because he had a CCW. It was obvious they went in intending to kill him. Otherwise he could have been arrested as he left work, or at work, if there was actually a before-the-action warrant, and escorted him home for a search.

You folks who think that if he was shot by a policeman then he more than deserved it by that fact alone have a very strange view of America. My brother-in-law thinks that way. He used to be state DEA and is all for killing anyone who is identified by an officer as possibly having any amount of any illegal drug or defined parephenalia. Bad shoots are just the "price you have to pay for order." So there are at least some LEOs who think that way.

271 posted on 08/11/2005 3:44:02 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: 7thOF7th

Where did it say he grabbed a gun?...Obvviously the cops version?


272 posted on 08/11/2005 3:45:16 PM PDT by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again just to make sure...)
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To: Smogger
I shudder to think that the SWAT team might decide to execute a predawn no-knock search warrant on my home, because the State's Department of Justice informs them that I own a gun. Anyone who kicks in the door to my house at that time in the morning is likely to be "ducking hot lead" as others have put it.

Do you realize that you are actually making a very good logical case supporting mandatory registration of guns? You and others who are posting similar boasts of intent to shoot at law enforcement agents serving a warrant at your home are indicative of why those officers would really like to know in advance if there is the likelihood that their target has a gun.

273 posted on 08/11/2005 3:47:08 PM PDT by Antonello
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To: 7thOF7th
How do you think they got a judge to sign a warrant; because he was accused of a crime!Allit takes is for the crazy lady down the street to call the police and say you are dealing drugs.
274 posted on 08/11/2005 3:48:38 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: G32

But there's no evidence except the word of the officers themselves to say that he did in fact draw a weapon. Given that their claim of having announced their entry is disputed, there's no reason to take their word as given on the more important matter. Since there are no shots fired from the deceased's weapon, it's not established that the officers fired in self-defense. It has every appearance of a murder, and that's what it should be considered to be until there is evidence to establish otherwise (which there is none.)

Furthermore, there is still a 2nd Amendment, even if it's totally ignored, and citizens have the right to bear arms. On top of that, the method of entry of the police - especially if they did not announce their entry as they claim, but even if they did - gave the victim every right to believe his home was being invaded by criminals. I know that's what I would think if my door got busted down at 6:15 AM. Wouldn't you grab your weapon in the same circumstances? Wouldn't any sensible person? How do you know the people busting your door down are really cops?

It would have been the most basic of precautions for the folks conducting the operation to record their actions. Even traffic cops do that, so it is fully warranted in such an extreme operation as this. Where's the tape? With no tape, there's no evidence to say these cops are anything but cold-blooded murderers who behave as if they are above the law.

The facts as they stand now are 1 citizen dead in his own home, and nothing but the word of those who shot him to testify that anything happened otherwise.


275 posted on 08/11/2005 3:48:50 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Free Michael Graham!)
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To: thoughtomator

One dead criminal drug dealer, for whom I shed no tears.


276 posted on 08/11/2005 3:50:15 PM PDT by G32
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To: G32

Good thing the IRS doesn't do the same. Yet tax evasion is also a felony. What will be your argument when your friend is shot by cops for not paying taxes?


277 posted on 08/11/2005 3:51:47 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Free Michael Graham!)
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To: ThanhPhero
Wrong! It takes a sworn affidavit from a wittiness who observed a crime being committed.
278 posted on 08/11/2005 3:51:57 PM PDT by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: Smogger
Gee then you detain the guy when he comes out of his house to goto the store to buy a pack of smokes or something. Search his house find to two ounces, no gun play. No one gets shot.

Unless he happens to be carrying that weapon he has a CCW for and decides to make a stand there. Sure hope an errant bullet doesn't find its way to a group of schoolkids that happened to be walking along that street.

Hmm, maybe busting someone known to have a gun in public with the potential for innocent bystanders that could end up being shot/taken hostage/interfering with the arrest/etc. has its downside too.

279 posted on 08/11/2005 3:52:01 PM PDT by Antonello
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To: thoughtomator

No, just illegal drugs. Or terrorism related activities.


280 posted on 08/11/2005 3:53:04 PM PDT by G32
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