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Hey, studly, your eyes must be brown, you are so full of it... or even green if, as I suspect, it's putrefied. First, our country was founded on the notion that we, the People, are sovereign adults, with total control over our own lives. We ceded SOME power and authority to government to act in our names and on our behalf in SEVERELY LIMITED areas. We did NOT, however, GIVE UP that power and authority. Further, we did NOT cede any power or authority to do things that we, ourselves could not LEGITIMATELY do. Committing murder under color of law is one of those little things we could not cede to thugs like you to do in our name.

HOW MANY TIMES have morons with badges gone into the wrong house? How many times have we read the horrifying but true tales of idiots run amok two or three blocks from their intended target? In other words, we ALL have to be concerned about becoming a target for your ilk.

No, NOT all cops are corrupt. REAL cops are homicide or robbery investigators. Cop-WANNABEES go into SWAT or vice so they can lord it over peaceful citizens or hassle potsmokers or hookers, the likeliest groups NOT to fight back. If you are, as you say, lead gun on a gang of door kickers, it speaks volumes about you, and none of it good.

With regard to me, I am a retired U.S. Marine and a Viet Nam veteran. I suspect I could see your pitiful 2 9's and raise you a 30-06 and not raise a sweat. And I would already BE home with my loved one. I would be doing my job of PROTECTING my home and loved one.

AND, in the early days of the Republic, we HAD NO "PROFESSIONAL" POLICE OFFICERS. We had local sheriffs who raised a "hue and cry" to which armed citizens responded whenever a crime was committed. And NO ONE SERVED THESE BOGUS WARRANTS that permit such violent entries as you and yours commit. If they tried, THEY would have been on the other end of the law. Just as you should be. Provided you survive the encounter.

Nor did I say you had been a Marine. I said, in response to someone calling you a Jar Head, that you could NEVER have been one, as WE have respect for the Comstitution AND for our peaceful fellow citizens. What I said, Mr. Head, was that your first name had to be Dick.

I'll go through your libertarian skew point by point so you understand the law vs. hyperbole....maybe.

"Committing murder under color of law is one of those little things we could not cede to thugs like you to do in our name."

Murder is for a judge and jury to decide...The LAW!

"HOW MANY TIMES have morons with badges gone into the wrong house? "

Statistically, probably so disparate the numbers per million people would be incalculable and far from systemic. (however, it is unfortunate anytime mistakes are made).

"If you are, as you say, lead gun on a gang of door kickers, it speaks volumes about you, and none of it good."

You must be hearing a lot of voices if you are hearing "Volumes" about men who perform a duty which requires attributes such as: Professionalism, Awareness, and most of all Courage. Since you say you are a retired Vietnam Marine I can understand your perspective of oppression. Our forces dished it out by the truckload in that war and we LOST because of it! I'm not saying you did any of this but I'm sure you witnessed it, hence understand the impact. Maybe this is why you are espousing anarchy here in this thread.

"AND, in the early days of the Republic, we HAD NO "PROFESSIONAL" POLICE OFFICERS. We had local sheriffs who raised a "hue and cry" to which armed citizens responded whenever a crime was committed. And NO ONE SERVED THESE BOGUS WARRANTS that permit such violent entries as you and yours commit."

You should check your facts, anarchy reined in the 1800s in NY NY, Washington, San Fransisco, Tucson, Dodge City, Chicago, and many other cities. There was no due process because people would take law enforcement into their own hands and it imbued an atmosphere of fear and lawlessness. Hanging without trials was common and violence stifled civility. Is this the world you desire to go back to? If so you are the oppressor. Take off the rose colored glasses.

" I said, in response to someone calling you a Jar Head, that you could NEVER have been one, as WE have respect for the Constitution AND for our peaceful fellow citizens. What I said, Mr. Head, was that your first name had to be Dick."

Well what can I say hear? Your use of sophomoric characterizations allows me to understand you completely. You are not very astute or least of which circumspect. I served with CT teams (A lot more training then you went through I assure you!), in the early 80s when we had to clean up Carter's mess. For two weeks in a hot Lebanon April, I dug out 240 of our brothers from a pile of bombed out rubble, none of which were in one piece. So don't lecture ME on professionalism and duty. I served with honor and if you continue to malign my actions or my allegiance to the Constitution try backing it up with fact and not your twisted hyperbole.

Lets end this by getting back to the subject matter of the thread. Here are some Facts:

The two officers involved; Visners has been with Sunrise since 1997 and on the SWAT team since 1999. He was Officer of the Month for May 2000. Bruna has been with the department since 1999 and on the SWAT team since 2001. Both officers have no history of disciplinary problems, and neither has been involved in any previous shootings (Hardly the JBT mentality you purport). The department had the house under surveillance and made at least one "controlled" drug purchase there. The victim had a previous MJ arrest in Cooper City in 1998. The Broward State Attorney's Office will investigate the matter.