9/11 Y2K; the 9/11 attack that happened BEFORE 2001 (Free Republic Exclusive)

FAA ^ | 9/11/00 | Southack and Government Sources

[Southack]

This is the FAA accident report for the mid-air collision in Florida one year prior to the 9/11/01 attacks on the WTC and Pentagon (and PA).

I brought this up in the week of 9/11/01, but this story was apparently "lost" in the news at the time. There were subsequent articles on this topic, and where FReepers can still find them, they should be appended onto posts on this thread.

Some important points to consider:
the Saudi national who piloted his aircraft into the Piper Aztec commercial flight had received his pilot's license from the Phillipines
Early blogs at the time noted that the Saudi pilot was Mohamed Atta or Alhazmi's roommate (this point needs to be confirmed)
This was a 9/11 attack...9/11 of 2000, not 2001
The 9/11 Congressional Commission did NOT research earlier 9/11 attacks such as this one
The 9/11/01 terrorists received $100,000 wire transfer to Florida one week after their 9/11/2000 attack at Ft Pierce airport, on September 18, 2000 ( http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&startpos=300#a062900transfer )
The Ft. Pierce 9/11/2000 attack was only 83 miles from the 9/11/2001 attackers' Del Ray beach condo
...and, this 9/11/2000 attack is relevant to the new discovery that *LAWYERS* in the Clinton Administration prevented Able Danger intel (and other information) on these terrorists from reaching the FBI (read: Gorelick's Wall).

[Velveeta]

Evidence found in a rental car left in Portland, Maine, led investigators to two houses in Vero Beach, Florida. One had been rented by two brothers from Saudi Arabia.

In Vero Beach, FBI agents searched four homes in three neighborhoods, according to witnesses.

A tenant in one of those houses, Adnan Bukhari, was cooperating with the federal agents, sources said.

Bukhari's brother, Ameer Bukhari, died in a small plane crash in Florida last year, according to a lawyer for the family.

Federal sources had initially identified the brothers as possible hijackers who had boarded one of the planes that originated in Boston.
Their names had been tied to a car founded at an airport in Portland, Maine.
But Bukhari's attorney said it appeared their identifications were stolen and said Bukhari had no role in the hijackings.

Information found in another rental car left in Boston's Logan Airport -- where two of the hijacked flights
originated -- led investigators to two more men who were pilots: Mohammed Atta and Marwan Yousef Alshehhii.
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/12/investigation.terrorism/

[Southack]

Police: Tampa pilot voiced support for bin Laden

Crash into bank building a suicide, officials say

January 7, 2002 Posted: 1:07 PM EST (1807 GMT)

Wreckage from a Cessna 172 aircraft hangs from a skyscraper in Tampa, Florida.

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TAMPA, Florida (CNN) -- A note written by the 15-year-old boy who crashed a Cessna into a Tampa office building indicated he supported Osama bin Laden and that the act was deliberate, authorities say.

Charles J. Bishop, who took the plane on an unauthorized flight across Tampa Bay, died at the scene of Saturday's crash into the 42-story Bank of America Plaza building. He apparently made no attempt to avoid the structure, witnesses said.

[blackie]

Thanks for the ping, Biker Chick!

[Sloth]

I've seen not success with any coverup involving more than one person actually remaining secret.

Well duh, by definition, any successful cover-up would require that you NOT know about it unless you were one of the conspirators.

[elbucko]

The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident as follows:

Failure of local controller to provide adequate spacing between two airplanes that resulted in a midair collision.

I might add that the report indicates that the weather was clear and VFR, therefore, both pilots had a duty to "see and be seen". I lost a Mooney M-20 with my step-dad and his friend aboard, a WWII B-25 pilot, in a midair collision with a Piper PA-28 over the California Mojave Desert in the early eighties. The skies were clear. The NTSB's conclusion was that the pilot who hit the Mooney was at the wrong altitude for the direction of flight and inexperienced (less than 500hrs). FWIW, I don't see anything in this report other than human error and the coincidence that one pilot was an Arab and the the incident happened on 9-11-2000. More coincidental than providential.

[Jersey Republican Biker Chick]

You are welcome!!

[freeperfromnj]

Thanks

[Southack]

Nice catch.

Evidence found in a rental car left in Portland, Maine, led investigators to two houses in Vero Beach, Florida. One had been rented by two brothers from Saudi Arabia.
In Vero Beach, FBI agents searched four homes in three neighborhoods, according to witnesses.

A tenant in one of those houses, Adnan Bukhari, was cooperating with the federal agents, sources said.

Bukhari's brother, Ameer Bukhari, died in a small plane crash in Florida last year, according to a lawyer for the family.

[Texans]

bump for later read

[freeperfromnj]

And of course, let's not forget the Egyptian suicide pilot.

[HairOfTheDog]

After 9/11, there was a complete shutdown of all civilian aviation for a few days, and a multi-billion dollar impact on the economy for years thereafter.

One little plane running into another little plane, without announcement or obvious attempt to create terror is hardly comparable to 9-11

Governments HATE multi-billion dollar impacts on the economy.

This government is far more concerned about a comfy populace that grows forgetful and weary about the threat of terrorism.

[HairOfTheDog]

You do have a point, but I also have a pretty good point about the nature of people. You can't involve lots of people. They talk.

[Aeronaut]

Sounds like a "garden variety" traffic pattern accident to me, but there are some interesting twists.

[Southack]

"Bukhari's brother, Ameer Bukhari, died in a small plane crash in Florida last year [this 9/11/2000 mid-air], according to a lawyer for the family.

Federal sources had initially identified the brothers as possible hijackers who had boarded one of the planes that originated in Boston. Their names had been tied to a car found at an airport in Portland, Maine."

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/12/investigation.terrorism/

[jmc813]

How come the best Freepers always seem to come from the South?

Hey!

[jmc813]

Very interesting, Southack. Thanks for posting this.

[mewzilla]

Heads up. Bubba coming up on Blitzer's show after the break.

[blackie]

:):):)

[SueRae]

I read this earlier today. If it's true that this guy was a roomate of Atta, then it seems likely to this reader that he could have also been logging air time to partcipate in the eventual attack on 9//11/01.

The FAA reprot blames the crash on the Air Traffic controllers error (they were switching shifts) I think it's an ironic coincidence that this occurred exactly one year before the attack but I don't think it was a deliberate attack on that day. I do, however, think that Al Quaeda lost a 5th pilot on that day.

[Age of Reason]

Suggesting that the Aztec was below the Cherokee. Since the Cherokee was piloted by the Saudi, a deliberate collision seems unlikely. These were both low-wing a/c.

Was the Saudi pilot trying to land?

I understand they are not very practiced at that part.