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Gasoline to hit $3 a gallon: wanna make a bet?
Reuters ^ | Fri Aug 5, 2005 1:53 PM ET | Richard Valdmanis

Posted on 08/08/2005 8:20:52 AM PDT by newgeezer

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The largest sports betting site on the Internet expanded Friday into the energy arena, offering gamblers a chance to bet on soaring U.S. retail gasoline prices.

"Record gasoline prices are affecting everyone, so why not let people bet on it?" said PinnacleSports.com spokesman Kyle Fratini. "We've been thinking about this for months."

The online betting site, which normally focuses on mainstream sports like football, basketball and soccer, is giving gamblers a chance to bet on whether gasoline will reach $3.00 a gallon in New York or Los Angeles by the end of the year, with 30 to 1 odds.

On Friday, average gasoline prices in Los Angeles were a lofty $2.616 a gallon, up more than 20 percent from last year and among the highest in the nation, according to the AAA's daily survey.

AAA's survey will be used by PinnacleSports.com as the benchmark for its bets.

Nationwide, gasoline prices are zipping along just over $2.30 a gallon, within 2 cents of the record peak hit July 14, as oil refiners are forced to pay up for record world crude oil prices of over $60 a barrel.

Also up for wager: Will the average price of gas in the United States reach $2.35 per gallon by Labor Day? Will the average price of gas in the U.S. reach $2.40 per gallon by the end of the year?

Fratini said maximum bets on gasoline will be around $500, though the site allows for bets in the thousands of dollars for sports like football.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: betting; energy; gambling; gasoline; gasprices; internet; oil
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To: biblewonk

I enjoy boating and...

I enjoy towing my boat with my massive 2500HD turbo-diesel gas guzzling truck as well!


101 posted on 08/08/2005 9:26:18 AM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

I read there is one new refinery which will be the next one to open. they started 5 years ago, and it won't be productive for 10 moreyears.
even if president and Congress said start right now, it'd still be 10-15 years before any new refinerys would open.
So, this price climbing is here for the long haul.

43.00/gal. yep, by this time neat year.


102 posted on 08/08/2005 9:26:18 AM PDT by strange1 ("Show the enemy harm so he shall not advance" Sun Tzu The Art of War)
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To: MikeWUSAF

We all have our priorities.


103 posted on 08/08/2005 9:27:38 AM PDT by biblewonk (They are not gods which are made with hands.)
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To: DCPatriot
I have a passenger car...BMW 5 series...with an 18 gallon capacity. As Rush says...for all you people in Rio Linda, that's $48.40 to fill it up....which I have to do 2-3 times per week.

OUCH! I'm so glad that I use only about 1/2 to 3/4 tank of gas per week. My job is only a few miles from where I live. Whenever I get the urge to go for a drive in the country, I remember how good I've got it and don't go. lol

104 posted on 08/08/2005 9:27:53 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
I am sorry I am not much of a gambler. Does this mean if I bet $1 I get $30 back if it hits 3 bucks a gallon?

I'm not a gambler at all. But, yes, that's what it means.

The odds can change as oddsmakers adjust them to keep the payout right. If too many people bet one side or the other, the odds will go up or down accordingly.

105 posted on 08/08/2005 9:28:46 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Prices from fuelguagereport.com for regular

Mon 8/8 Gas avg hits $3 in NYC or Los Angeles by 1/1/2006?

103 Yes +423

104 No -473

I checked the site and the above are the current odds. The odds aren't 30-1 anymore and they are "baseball" type odds now. If you bet 100 dollars on yes, and you win, you will get 423 dollars back plus your bet. If you lose this bet, you lose 100 dollars. You would be taking an "underdog" bet.

If you take the -473 bet, you are betting the "favorite." If you want to win a 100 dollars, you have to bet 473 dollars. If you win, you win 100 dollars and get your 473 dollar bet back. If you lose this bet, you are out 473 dollars.

Roughly put, the underdog is a little more than 4 - 1, and the "favorite" is a little more than 1 - 4 7/10.

106 posted on 08/08/2005 9:30:40 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Islam is not a religion, but rather a means of world conquest" - ALAN BURKHART.COM)
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To: Hoboto

Have you ever tried to get a baby in and out of a car seat in a small, low to the ground car 5 or 6 times a day. See post #99. Besides, my Honda Pilot gets great gas milage.


107 posted on 08/08/2005 9:30:47 AM PDT by sportutegrl (People who say, "All I know is . . ." really mean, "All I want you to focus on is . . .")
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To: AdamSelene235

Well, I guess you would rather have the economy tank. Thanks.


108 posted on 08/08/2005 9:32:03 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: Tall_Texan

I don't know why you believed that myth in the first place. The war was not about Iraqi oil.


109 posted on 08/08/2005 9:32:17 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: kellynla

And Calabasas is where?


110 posted on 08/08/2005 9:32:22 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: newgeezer

I just got my new monthly oil heating bill installment for the 2005 - 2006 season and it jumped from $158.00 per month to a whopping $300.00 per month. I can't wait until I can retire and move to a warmer climate.


111 posted on 08/08/2005 9:35:35 AM PDT by Wiggins
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To: newgeezer
The situation in Iran is the cause of this. $3 may be a bargain depending on how it turns out after Iran's nuke facilities are taken out.
112 posted on 08/08/2005 9:35:38 AM PDT by John Lenin (Hillary Clinton =RAT Titantic)
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To: hershey
Several years ago, the oil cartel said they wanted gas at $3.50 per gallon in the US, since the EU was paying about that. Outrageous price fixing.

OPEC has almost no impact on oil pricing in the U.S. anymore. One bit of news that seems to have escaped the attention of a lot of folks here is that Canada has now surpassed Saudi Arabia as the largest foreign source of oil for the U.S. And two of our largest foreign sources of oil (Canada and Mexico) aren't even members of OPEC.

113 posted on 08/08/2005 9:36:15 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: biblewonk
3.00 per gallon will be fun.

Just think what a hoot $4.00 a gallon would be.

114 posted on 08/08/2005 9:38:23 AM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: newgeezer

We didn't.

There is no holdup. There is an expanding world-oil-consuming economy that is creating oil-consuming middle classes all over Asia; particulary among 100s of millions of new Indian and Chinese oil consumers.

It is that demand that is driving up world oil prices.

If you think it is high now, what will you say when and if the African economies can ever be reformed into producers and create their own oil-consuming middle classes?

Higher oil prices are just what is needed for: conservation, exploration and improved economics of new technologies and alternative energy sources. It will work much better than government fiat.


115 posted on 08/08/2005 9:38:57 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: edcoil

"Where is all that oil from Iraq. We can blame Clinton for this mess when he sent Richardson to the Saudis and negoated price for oild."

Sorry, but the reasons for the price of oil are numerous and go way beyond whatever Clinton did in office. I'm not saying it didn't play a part, but we simply can't hang the whole thing on Clinton.


117 posted on 08/08/2005 9:39:39 AM PDT by Gone GF
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To: rwfromkansas; kempo
Refinery numbers are only part of the story. Total refinery capacity is more important figure. After falling in the early 80's following industry deregulation, it is now slowly creeping up.
118 posted on 08/08/2005 9:39:44 AM PDT by NYorkerInHouston
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To: Hoboto
"Until people realize that driving an SUV with 1 or 2 people in it is not exactly "fuel efficient", gas prices will continue to remain high."

AHaa haa haaa! Good one! Its all the fault of the SUV! Ban SUVs, problem solved. (eyes rolling)

Seriously dude, get a grip and start paying attention.

119 posted on 08/08/2005 9:39:54 AM PDT by subterfuge (Obama, mo mama...er Osama-La bamba, uh, bama...banana rama...URP!---Ted Kennedy)
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To: Gone GF

I am not, I noted it is when it started.

The IOP (Ind.OilProd) here in Calif went to DC to lobby our congress to allow a price increase from 17.00 to 27.00 a barrel.

We paid 55 cents per barrell to the DOG for oversight, that is now over 5.00 a barrel. Here in CA we have the 15 year reule to destory the industry we have state and local tax increases, it is surly a mess.

The previous discussion had to due to saudi oil.


120 posted on 08/08/2005 9:44:07 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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