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King David's Palace Is Found, Archaeologist Says
New York Times ^ | August 5, 2005 | STEVEN ERLANGER

Posted on 08/05/2005 11:51:57 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

An Israeli archaeologist says she has uncovered in East Jerusalem what may be the fabled palace of the biblical King David. Her work has been sponsored by a conservative Israeli research institute and financed by an American Jewish investment banker who would like to prove that Jerusalem was indeed the capital of the Jewish kingdom described in the Bible.

Other scholars are skeptical that the foundation walls discovered by the archaeologist, Eilat Mazar, are David's palace. But they acknowledge that what she has uncovered is rare and important: a major public building from around the 10th century B.C., with pottery shards that date to the time of David and Solomon and a government seal of an official mentioned in the book of Jeremiah.

The discovery is likely to be a new salvo in a major dispute in biblical archaeology: whether the kingdom of David was of some historical magnitude, or whether the kings were more like small tribal chieftains, reigning over another dusty hilltop.

The find will also be used in the broad political battle over Jerusalem - whether the Jews have their origins here and thus have some special hold on the place, or whether, as many Palestinians have said, including the late Yasir Arafat, the idea of a Jewish origin in Jerusalem is a myth used to justify conquest and occupation.

Hani Nur el-Din, a Palestinian professor of archaeology at Al Quds University, said he and his colleagues considered biblical archaeology an effort by Israelis "to fit historical evidence into a biblical context." He added: "The link between the historical evidence and the biblical narration, written much later, is largely missing. There's a kind of fiction about the 10th century. They try to link whatever they find to the biblical narration. ...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Israel; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bible; cary; christianity; david; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; godsgravesglyps; history; israel; jerusalem; judaism; kingdavid; palace; zionism
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To: sofaman

arafat told slick willy at camp david that the Temple was probably in Nablus.


21 posted on 08/05/2005 12:06:58 PM PDT by APRPEH (vision in the middle east without proper sunglasses results in blindness)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
I would say that the idea of an unbiased NY Slimes story is certainly a myth!

Yes, the fabled newspaper of record has been unearthed to be nothing but a dusty old liberal rag.

22 posted on 08/05/2005 12:07:04 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: ExcursionGuy84
Only Goes to Show that the Word of GOD is IR-REFUTABLE evidence of What Truly Is and Was.

Yes, our PCA Church says Inspired and Inerrant in the Autographa. And thanks to great archaeological finds like the dead sea scrolls, we know how accurate it is.

Yes, the world wants the scriptures to be inaccurate and yet archeology keeps proving them wrong.

23 posted on 08/05/2005 12:07:38 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: little jeremiah; scripter

Ping


24 posted on 08/05/2005 12:07:41 PM PDT by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
It seems there have been many finds in the last months. I wonder what would happen if they really did find something big...

Hey, with Jones having a Geraldo style TV special on 8/13 or 14, who knows what he will find, although I doubt he will find the Arc.

We never know what God plans, but it sure is great!

25 posted on 08/05/2005 12:07:46 PM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: West Coast Conservative

I always wanted to play the palace!


26 posted on 08/05/2005 12:08:40 PM PDT by RexBeach (Pardon me, but is that a malaise sandwich in your pocket or are you just glad to be in a funk?)
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To: devane617

This is it, baby. Get the Manishewitz flowing because Bath Sheba is back in town...


27 posted on 08/05/2005 12:08:50 PM PDT by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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To: APRPEH
I didn't know that. Of course, permission to excavate in the area and on the Temple Mount itself has been steadfastly refused by the Palestinians and the Jordanians. However, the excavavtions along the length of the Western Wall are fairly conclusive.

The question I have is why is establishing David's presence in Israel so important when Solomon's presence is documented....the Temple.

28 posted on 08/05/2005 12:10:15 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: APRPEH

Again, do we want a debate on rights to be centered on who lived there 3000 years ago. The stronger argument should be who lives there now and who has a right to live there. By discussing the past we are just getting sucked into a debated with Islam-a-racists about events in forgotten history and, as much as people here believe the Biblical version, there is no way to know for sure. I too believe the Biblical version, but the attitude should be 'yea we were here 3000 years ago, but more importantly we're here now and we have a right to be here free from your ----.'


29 posted on 08/05/2005 12:10:40 PM PDT by golch1979 ("Captain Sobol, we solute the rank, not the man.")
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To: Tax-chick

"including the late Yasir Arafat, the idea of a Jewish origin in Jerusalem is a myth"

Someone would have to consume huge amounts of crack to even remotely believe this.


30 posted on 08/05/2005 12:11:08 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (The Democrat party is the official party of the Morlocks.)
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To: JOHN ADAMS

The fact that they quoted Yasir Arafat as a meaningful authority is just ... bizarre.

Of course, a wall from the 10th C B.C. is not necessarily the palace of King David - there were other buildings in Jerusalem at the time. Still, it's an amazing find!


31 posted on 08/05/2005 12:11:21 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Liberals: Too stupid to realize Dick Cheney is the real Dark Lord.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

This is fantastic news if true.

Now, I seem to recall passages which indicate the relative location to Solomon's temple...


32 posted on 08/05/2005 12:12:19 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)
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To: golch1979
But if it's not, my postition on Israel is not based on the Bible. It's based on the fundamental rights of Israelis to live and live free of Islamic terror.

I agree. I support Israel not because I'm a Christian, but because I'm an American; not because of the Bible, but because of the Declaration of Independence.

33 posted on 08/05/2005 12:13:01 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Liberals: Too stupid to realize Dick Cheney is the real Dark Lord.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian; rhema

Ping


34 posted on 08/05/2005 12:13:11 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: timsbella
I wish I could have dinner with David and Bath-Sheba. I am sure after a few glasses of wine it would be the most interesting conservation in history.
35 posted on 08/05/2005 12:16:27 PM PDT by devane617
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To: timsbella

(((This is it, baby. Get the Manishewitz flowing because Bath Sheba is back in town...)))

LOL! I tell you I have really been enjoying this story all day long.


36 posted on 08/05/2005 12:24:38 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: golch1979

Sometimes Israel is a Jewish state, sometimes it's a liberal democracy. Depends on what works best at any given time.


37 posted on 08/05/2005 12:25:33 PM PDT by DManA
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To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; A Jovial Cad; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; adam_az; af_vet_rr; agrace; ahayes; ...
Looks like the NY Slimes updated the original article title

FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel/Russian Jewry ping list.

Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.

38 posted on 08/05/2005 12:27:01 PM PDT by Alouette ("Peace and justice" = Leftspeak for terrorism and ethnic cleansing.)
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To: EdReform

Thanks for the ping...the ancient history of the world is much more ancient, and much greater, than the NYT knows about!


39 posted on 08/05/2005 12:27:20 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: DManA
I know. I just wanted to say that the far stronger case for Israel is about today. Human history is filled with cultures coming and going over certain pieces of real estate. If we used the criteria of 'who lived here 3000 years ago', then a lot of populations would be called illegitimate today.
40 posted on 08/05/2005 12:34:26 PM PDT by golch1979 ("Captain Sobol, we solute the rank, not the man.")
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