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I like this part the best.

"Smokers are always the easy, politically safe, no-backlash constituency to leech more money from," Kjono said.

1 posted on 08/03/2005 3:32:09 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper
"After you've smoked as long as I've smoked, quitting them is like quitting breathing."

Truer words than he realizes.

2 posted on 08/03/2005 3:37:14 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: elkfersupper

so you can sell porn on Ebay, just not smokes.


3 posted on 08/03/2005 3:37:19 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (If at first you don't succeed, failure may be your thing.)
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To: elkfersupper

They don't call it the "Evergreen State" for nothing.

Pay up all you nicotine fiends.


4 posted on 08/03/2005 3:37:42 PM PDT by Pompah
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To: elkfersupper

Sounds to me like the man's privacy rights may have been violated. How did the state get his name and information from the company? Is that legal for the state to do?


5 posted on 08/03/2005 3:37:50 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: elkfersupper

There is a better way. Buy the cigarettes from a Internet site in a foreign country. If the site is registered to a company incorporated in, say, India, the state probably has no right to assess or collect taxes. The sale was made in India, not the state of Washington. The Indian corporation could tell the state that it has no jurisiction and simply refuse to comply with information requests. Even if the state filed suit in federal court it is doubtful they could make a foreign corporation comply. At least that is the argument that would be made in court of law.


6 posted on 08/03/2005 3:40:05 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: elkfersupper
State attorneys general also have gotten several major credit card companies to stop letting people charge cigarette purchases online. And some shipping companies have agreed to stop carrying them, Gowrylow said.

US Constitution:

Section 8. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

9 posted on 08/03/2005 3:44:46 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: elkfersupper
The following was from Kjono's web site forces.org:

The tax collectors vow to be relentless but deny that the primary motive is to collect the back taxes. The real purpose is to "educate people so they realize they're breaking the law."

Two words come to mind and it rhymes with bull shit.

15 posted on 08/03/2005 3:53:28 PM PDT by Horatio Gates (Fatiser Visus)
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To: sionnsar

WA cigarette tax ping


16 posted on 08/03/2005 3:56:17 PM PDT by Horatio Gates (Fatiser Visus)
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"Anyone found in possession of cigarettes without a washington state or state authorized stribal stamp is subject to a fine". Do have have cigarette police in the state walking around asking to see your pack? If both states have sales tax, would the state selling the product be subject to the sales tax not the out of state ?


17 posted on 08/03/2005 4:06:23 PM PDT by newfrpr04
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To: elkfersupper
Let me get this straight. If the sales tax on cigarettes approximates 30%, there will be massive evasion.

But if we put a sales tax of 30% on everything, everything will be just fine.

The Fair Tax won't work.

26 posted on 08/03/2005 4:23:38 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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To: elkfersupper

Personally I believe cigarettes ought to be outlawed completely. Then again the government would never do that because it would soon go broke of have to raise the missing tax money on something else.


28 posted on 08/03/2005 4:28:04 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (GWB a conservative? Don't make me laugh. Have you seen your borders?)
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To: elkfersupper

Here's the next progression:

CA, MA or some other socialist state wants to take a back door route to banning guns and ammo and decides to impose a punitive tax of, say $.50 per round, "for the children."

Lawful citizens of the state say "screw that!" and start buying ammo on line from out of state. State watchdogs let things roll for a few years then use the Jenkins Act to find these customers and hit them up for taxes and penaltys.

Score 1 for the state.


30 posted on 08/03/2005 4:32:34 PM PDT by ibbryn (this tag intentionally left blank)
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To: elkfersupper
I just bought some Heartgard for my doggies from CanadaPharmacy for half the price I pay at my vet, no prescription required. We'll see.

I'd buy cigarettes on the web too except they don't handle my brand.

33 posted on 08/03/2005 4:38:35 PM PDT by blam
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To: elkfersupper
At the same time Governor Jim Doyle doesn't have a problem with setting up a program for Wisconsin residents to get prescription drugs from Canada. It's OK to by-pass the FDA, and deprive them of revenue, and actively encourage the citizens of Wisconsin to go to a foreign country for their medications. Don't forget, medications from a foriegn source are not FDA approved. And yet, believe me, Jim Doyle isn't as forgiving as he seems to appear in this story. The State of Wisconsin and Jim Doyle got the list of buyers from the Internet company under the threat of a lawsuit. How else would any State know who bought cigarettes on line? The On-Line company caved in and supplied the States with its customer list. It's sleaze working with sleaze. If there is money involved, where did it go? Follow the money trail.
41 posted on 08/03/2005 5:13:07 PM PDT by joem15
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I'm sure organized crime will step in to help consumers get what they want without the government's interference. They did just that during Prohibition.


49 posted on 08/03/2005 5:58:54 PM PDT by The Great RJ (rtable)
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To: elkfersupper
Under state law, anyone found in possession of cigarettes without either a Washington state or state-authorized tribal tax stamp is subject to a fine of $250 or $10 a pack, whichever is greater.

So if a person stops at a store in Portland, Oregon, and buys a pack of cigarettes, and then gets pulled over by the police in Vancouver, Washington, and they notice his cigarettes, then that person is subject to a fine???????????????????????

50 posted on 08/03/2005 6:04:46 PM PDT by SALChamps03
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I have also been told by residents of Alabama, that there is a line on the Alabama state tax return for you to list and pay taxes on any items you purchas out of state. So, if you take a trip down to Florida, you are supposed to report and pay taxes on what you buy. Ummmm....when donkeys fly.


51 posted on 08/03/2005 6:08:19 PM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: elkfersupper

Since when has it been constitutional for a State to tax, place tariffs and regulate interstate commerce?


55 posted on 08/03/2005 6:19:37 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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