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State goes after smokers who buy cigs on Web (Backlash predicted)
Spokesman Review ^ | August 1, 2005 | Richard Roesler

Posted on 08/03/2005 3:32:02 PM PDT by elkfersupper

OLYMPIA – Grady Russell thought he'd found a great bargain.

A smoker for more than six decades, the retired Ephrata, Wash., carpenter found an Internet company two years ago that sold cigarettes – taxed at the ultra-low Kentucky rate – for slightly more than $1 a pack. Delighted with the savings, Russell started placing orders, 10 cartons at a time.

Then, last year, he got a letter in the mail. The state Department of Revenue told him he owed Washington taxes on all those cigarettes.

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"I hate it," Russell said. But he paid up, dutifully calculating the number of shipments and sending in about $160 in state taxes for each one.

"It was thousands" of dollars, he said. "I'm afraid not to pay it."

He's not alone. Over the past 16 months, Washington tax collectors have sent out more than 8,000 letters like the one Russell got. So far, the state has collected more than $150,000 in unpaid cigarette taxes.

The money is only a tiny fraction of the estimated $140 million the state thinks it loses to contraband cigarettes each year. But collecting back taxes, a Department of Revenue spokesman says, is secondary to the state's larger goal: discouraging Washington residents from trying to avoid state taxes by buying tobacco over the Internet.

"What we're trying to do is educate people so they realize they're breaking the law," said spokesman Mike Gowrylow. The first letter requesting payment "is kind of voluntary," he said.

"We ask you to be a good citizen and pay it, but we don't send it to Collections," Gowrylow said. "But if we see your name again, we will."

Under state law, anyone found in possession of cigarettes without either a Washington state or state-authorized tribal tax stamp is subject to a fine of $250 or $10 a pack, whichever is greater.

Critics – including Russell – say the state simply is targeting an unpopular minority: smokers.

"Why aren't they going after the people who buy wine or tennis shoes or every other product sold over the Internet?" said Norman Kjono, a Redmond, Wash.-based columnist for www.forces.org, an advocacy group opposed to anti-tobacco and anti-obesity regulations.

"Smokers are always the easy, politically safe, no-backlash constituency to leech more money from," Kjono said.

Three years ago, Washington filed its first lawsuit against Internet tobacco dealer www.dirtcheapcig.com. The company – which billed itself as "the last refuge of the persecuted smoker" – was based in Paducah, Ky., where cigarette taxes are less than 3 cents per pack. (Washington's tax recently rose to more than $2.02 per pack.) Smokers like Russell paid the Kentucky tax but not the Washington tax.

Washington turned to a rarely used federal law from 1949: the Jenkins Act. Aimed at mail-order sales, the law requires tobacco companies to disclose lists of their customers in other states.

In recent years, the number of Internet-based tobacco sellers has mushroomed – a 2002 search by the Government Accounting Office found 147 such Web sites. Nearly a third assured buyers that they didn't report purchases to state tax officials.

The federal Internet Tax Freedom Act prohibited new or discriminatory taxes on Internet ventures out of concern that taxes might squelch technological growth. But according to the state and the GAO, the law doesn't shield companies from existing tax laws such as the Jenkins Act. Washington won its case.

Since then, several other larger Internet vendors have turned over lists of Washington customers. In a nationwide first, a tobacco seller based on Seneca Nation of Indians reservation land in New York agreed earlier this year to provide customer names.

"It is our intention to continue to file lawsuits," said Gowrylow. "We've got another one in the works." Against whom, he wouldn't say.

State attorneys general also have gotten several major credit card companies to stop letting people charge cigarette purchases online. And some shipping companies have agreed to stop carrying them, Gowrylow said.

Kjono agrees that the state taxes are due, but he predicts a political backlash from smokers. He says that if you count "social smokers" – peo-ople who might have a couple of cigarettes while drinking at a bar – about a quarter of Washington consumers can be considered smokers. Unfairly targeting smokers, he says, is chilling Internet commerce and angering voters who happen to smoke.

"It's not going to work that much longer," Kjono said.

In a surprise move last week, Wisconsin Gov. Jim Doyle ordered the Wisconsin Department of Revenue to stop trying to collect seven years' worth of back taxes from people who bought from five online vendors.

"We had anticipated collecting about $3 million," said Meredith Helgerson, a department spokeswoman. The state had sent letters to about 1,000 Wisconsin residents and planned to write to 5,000 more.

"It's a legal and legitimate tax claim by the department, ... but the governor gave us a directive to halt, which we have," said Helgerson.

Doyle is "outraged" by the sale of cigarettes online and would like to see such sales banned, according to spokesman Dan Leistikow.

"He thinks it's a good thing that the state has taxes on tobacco, whether it's sold in a store or on the Internet, but that it's not a good use of resources to have the state going after a 70-year-old grandmother who bought a few cigarettes on the Internet," Leistikow said.

As for Russell, he now buys his Pall Mall Ultralight 100s at the grocery store, a pack at a time. At 73, he said, he feels no ill effect from decades of smoking.

He's trying to cut back but says he enjoys his longtime habit too much.

"Once you're in your 70s, you want to enjoy yourself and keep yourself comfortable," he said. "After you've smoked as long as I've smoked, quitting them is like quitting breathing."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
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I like this part the best.

"Smokers are always the easy, politically safe, no-backlash constituency to leech more money from," Kjono said.

1 posted on 08/03/2005 3:32:09 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper
"After you've smoked as long as I've smoked, quitting them is like quitting breathing."

Truer words than he realizes.

2 posted on 08/03/2005 3:37:14 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: elkfersupper

so you can sell porn on Ebay, just not smokes.


3 posted on 08/03/2005 3:37:19 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (If at first you don't succeed, failure may be your thing.)
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To: elkfersupper

They don't call it the "Evergreen State" for nothing.

Pay up all you nicotine fiends.


4 posted on 08/03/2005 3:37:42 PM PDT by Pompah
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To: elkfersupper

Sounds to me like the man's privacy rights may have been violated. How did the state get his name and information from the company? Is that legal for the state to do?


5 posted on 08/03/2005 3:37:50 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: elkfersupper

There is a better way. Buy the cigarettes from a Internet site in a foreign country. If the site is registered to a company incorporated in, say, India, the state probably has no right to assess or collect taxes. The sale was made in India, not the state of Washington. The Indian corporation could tell the state that it has no jurisiction and simply refuse to comply with information requests. Even if the state filed suit in federal court it is doubtful they could make a foreign corporation comply. At least that is the argument that would be made in court of law.


6 posted on 08/03/2005 3:40:05 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: phoenix0468
Credit card companies and freight delivery services "volunteered" the information under threats of lawsuits by various states.

Oddly enough, they're only going after tobacco, not other goods.

7 posted on 08/03/2005 3:42:27 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: ex-Texan

See #7


8 posted on 08/03/2005 3:42:58 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper
State attorneys general also have gotten several major credit card companies to stop letting people charge cigarette purchases online. And some shipping companies have agreed to stop carrying them, Gowrylow said.

US Constitution:

Section 8. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

9 posted on 08/03/2005 3:44:46 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: elkfersupper

I understand that some Internet companies agree to directly charge your bank account for each order. Therefore, sidestepping the necessity of using credit cards. Easy for the buyer to control the amount of money kept in a certain account. Again, the state would be SOL.


10 posted on 08/03/2005 3:46:06 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: gitmo
That's a stretch. However, the Jenkins Act, as unconstitutional as it may be, is pretty clear.

It may take a large and open revolt to straighten this out.

11 posted on 08/03/2005 3:49:56 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

Well the thought also occurred to me that they can't levy a tax against this citizen because they could in no way prove that he was selling the cigarettes. Unless he was buying more than the allowed limit for the state to import without tarrif.


12 posted on 08/03/2005 3:50:27 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: phoenix0468

That's an interesting thought.


13 posted on 08/03/2005 3:52:21 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: ex-Texan

"There is a better way. Buy the cigarettes from a Internet site in a foreign country"

Problem is bootleg cigarettes.


14 posted on 08/03/2005 3:52:42 PM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: elkfersupper
The following was from Kjono's web site forces.org:

The tax collectors vow to be relentless but deny that the primary motive is to collect the back taxes. The real purpose is to "educate people so they realize they're breaking the law."

Two words come to mind and it rhymes with bull shit.

15 posted on 08/03/2005 3:53:28 PM PDT by Horatio Gates (Fatiser Visus)
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To: sionnsar

WA cigarette tax ping


16 posted on 08/03/2005 3:56:17 PM PDT by Horatio Gates (Fatiser Visus)
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To: elkfersupper

"Anyone found in possession of cigarettes without a washington state or state authorized stribal stamp is subject to a fine". Do have have cigarette police in the state walking around asking to see your pack? If both states have sales tax, would the state selling the product be subject to the sales tax not the out of state ?


17 posted on 08/03/2005 4:06:23 PM PDT by newfrpr04
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To: Horatio Gates

Agreed, its all about money.


18 posted on 08/03/2005 4:09:25 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: Horatio Gates
The real purpose is to "educate people so they realize they're breaking the law."

The goobermint thinks we're stupid. Unfortunately, for the most part, they are correct.

19 posted on 08/03/2005 4:09:46 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Horatio Gates

I agree.

Washington is just one of many states with an out of control tax system. My wife and I live in Idaho. She works in Washington, which has no state income tax. Idaho does, so of course we pay Idaho state tax. However, many people who love in Washington work in Idaho. And yes, they, too pay Idaho state income tax.

Now, it seesm to me it ought to be one or the other-you pay tax to the state you live in, but not work in, or vice versa.

As an aside, I was amused to discover that the Boston Tea Party was held because the tariffs went up to a whopping 5%! That would be a steal these days...


20 posted on 08/03/2005 4:10:17 PM PDT by Biker Pat
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