You Want to Escalate, We'll Escalate, and You'll Lose...Big!

31 July 05 | HMV

[Hillary'sMoralVoid]

We hear the chilling news about the possibility of suitcase nukes inside our borders, we hear that 10, maybe even 20 of our cities may be at risk.

The risk we face is nothing compared to what the Islamic World faces if terrorists choose to escalate the war on terror.

We currently have Poseiden Nuclear Submarines on patrol in the Indian Ocean. No terrorist could ever find them, much less destroy them. A single sub can unleash 50 missiles with pinpoint accuracy, each with a warhead bigger than the sum of even 20 suitcase nukes.

If the terrorists want to ensure that there would be no retaliation, they would have to destroy not only our major cities, but also our bombers, our land-based missile systems, our complete command and control network, and our nuclear submarines.

They cannot do this, and escalation brings with it such huge risks of anihilation of the Islamic world that it would seem incomprehensible that they would try to raise the stakes. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

[Allosaurs_r_us]

As to your general thesis, no American president will ever authorize nuclear release authority unless a terrorist WMD can be publically and specifically traced to an actual foreign government who provided the direct logistical support.

 

To even suggest we would use a nuclear weapon is just about the dumbest thing I have ever heard. We have gone to great pains to spare civilian lives in this war on terror. American lives have been lost because of this practice. It would be much easier to just cluster bomb a city block than root out a couple of insurgents, but then we would be no better than those that oppose freedom and the war against terror.

 

Obviously the author of this thread has no idea what he/she is talking about. This will never be an option. How in the world could anyone come to the conclusion a whole city should be wiped off the face of the planet because of an one individual and his followers of fanatical lunacy.

 

Suggestions such as this are counter productive and serve no useful purpose. This thread should be flushed down the commode!

 

[rdb3]

What's it to you? You don't find his rhetoric a problem?

[OB1kNOb]

Japan was ready to fight to the last man. Farmers fighting with rakes and such. It took the reality of the horror of nuclear destruction to change their minds. I'm sure a few were emboldened but the truth was undeniable.

Precisely. I think you make a valid point. Force the general population of middle east muzzies to stare directly down the gun barrel of utter annihilation and suddenly the whacked-out leaders (that think every man, woman, and child in their nation, religion, etc. will offer themselves on the alter of slaughter) will find out that they stand by themselves, all alone while the remaining general population will declare their personal innocence and say that they couldn't speak out for fear of their own lives.

Japan and Germany are prime examples. Muzzies are too. They can't even fight amongst themselves without switching sides the second that they perceive that the side they are fighting on might be losing. That is why the threat of nuclear retaliation will work. Let the muzzieworld play nuclear Russian roulette if they want to. Round and round it goes, which muzzie city blows up, no one knows.

[cpdiii]

You are correct. The Russians and the United States were prepared and would kill in excess of 100 million people on each side if we went to war. We did not go to war. FEAR WORKS.

[darbymcgill]

You made the post in an open forum didn't you?

My question to you was, since his 'elimination words' were not any more harsh than many others in this thread, what did you 'read into' or 'assume' from his post that makes it more wrong than the others?

[johnb838]

Hillary has a very stormy temper.

[rdb3]

Read this asshole's prior posts, then get back to me. Maybe you'll understand better after that.

Here.

[johnb838]

Signore -- I still maintain that if we get nuked and we don't respond in kind, the population of this country is going to FREAK F*CKING OUT and calls for calm, or understanding, and holding back are going to fall on deaf ears as people rush the stores for the food and medicines that they are no longer sure that money will buy in the future. And they are not necessarily going to buy into the authority of the police by that point.

In other words, if the balloon goes up, the social compact is OFF, and if the government tries to spin it with doubletalk, they are likely to be viewed as illegitimat poseurs, which they largely are anyway.

At that point the internment may be for the muslims own safety.

[hispanarepublicana]

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[johnb838]

We will lash out at anyone who looks at us wrong.

I say we HAVE to nuke somebody if we get nuked. At that point the stakes are so high we have to demonstrate the backbone to Zot(!) or else we appear so weak the rest of the jackals will come in to pick our carcass clean. We can be sorry later.

[Allosaurs_r_us]

I see the post has been removed.......LOL

Seeing as this thread is pretty useless, (see post #161), and the motion on the table has been seconded, time to vote for the dumbest post to ever see the light of day on FR.

I vote for the now "flushed down the toilet #58", an obvious racial POS opinion, on this thread.

Any and all nominees are now welcomed..........LOL

[Nat Turner]

you really want to know what happens next?

Riots. Refugees. Martial law.

Pogroms of muslims and those that look islamic.

Blue state / Red state and Blue city / Red state conflicts over resources and control. The only control the feds will have over the rest of the nation will be the military and paramilitary forces.

The military maybe compelled to launch a coup if the civil authorities are hamstrung by liberal traitors and appeasers.

You can bet the federal government will be either be gridlocked by partisanship or crippled by the break down of local authority.

Look for people to start settling social, economic and political scores in the ensuing chaos. Border towns maybe be forced to turn back refugees, while refugees may start shooting to escape the affected areas. City dwellers will raid suruban kitchens while suburban gypies in SUV's will invade the hinterlands both to escape and find food, and you think all those armed farmers will wecome the interlopers with open arms?

And watch the kook fringe rise up from the ashes of insignificance.

Kinda like mad max meets solyent green

[TASMANIANRED]

Islamists are a death cult.

It isn't risk taking to them.

It's getting to heaven.

[CygnusXI]

That sounds about right....unfortunately.
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[darbymcgill]

Ok, I've performed my assignment, now it's your turn.

Please tell me how his comments or 'elimination words' as you called them are any different from the posts below on this thread. Some refer to elimination of whole nations and religious groups.

2, 5, 9, 21, 25, 27, 31, 32, 34, 39, 41, 43, 46, 49, 51, 55, 61, 64, 66, 70, 75, 78, 84.

[BlackElk]

Hold up, just a minute there, Bub. Mickey Mantle played there as did Whitey Ford, Billy Martin and a lot of others. It was in that ballpark that Denny McClain in his 30+ victory season for the Tigers, knowing that it was Mickey Mantle's last at bat in Detroit and with the Tigers well ahead of my Yanks, asked his boyhood hero, the Mick, where he wanted Denny to throw him a batting practice-style meatball, which the Mick, even in his diminished condition, parked in the furthest reaches of the stadium. This ballpark is sacred ground. Preserve it. Do not desecrate it.

Besides, we have numerous active volcanoes in which to store the Islamofascisti. Add pig blood and you have a very good solution.

[Former Proud Canadian]

I share your reverance for the former haymarket at Michigan and Trumbull but it has fallen on very hard days lately. In it's present state, its not good for much.

[SJackson]

Thanks for the ping.

The post is gone, but from what I piece together, it was a rant about how Christian America is being destroyed by a surge in mostly Christian immigration, in the same way the civil right’s movement harmed Christian America by stopping the oppression of millions of mostly American Christians.

Needless to say, religion isn’t the issue.

[hispanarepublicana]

Okay...I've gotten about half way through your list and paused to ask (with regard to the 1st half), are you equating Taquinas post asserting "Immigration is for 21st century America what civil rights were in the 20th century. Both were intentional with the intent to destroy our Christian way of life and culture." with the posts you listed that discuss MILITARY RETALIATION and DEFENSE? So, you're equating the outlawing of things like a "whites only" waterfountain sign and a "no mexicans (even American hispanics)" sign at a cafe with retaliation for an act of war, such as a suitcase nuke or a 9-11 strike, on the United States?

[TChris]

But you miss the obvious problem: You can't intimidate jihadists with Mutually Assured Destruction when they are already resigned to their own death in order to take out some "infidels". They simply don't care.