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You Want to Escalate, We'll Escalate, and You'll Lose...Big!
31 July 05 | HMV

Posted on 07/31/2005 7:28:58 PM PDT by Hillary'sMoralVoid

We hear the chilling news about the possibility of suitcase nukes inside our borders, we hear that 10, maybe even 20 of our cities may be at risk.

The risk we face is nothing compared to what the Islamic World faces if terrorists choose to escalate the war on terror.

We currently have Poseiden Nuclear Submarines on patrol in the Indian Ocean. No terrorist could ever find them, much less destroy them. A single sub can unleash 50 missiles with pinpoint accuracy, each with a warhead bigger than the sum of even 20 suitcase nukes.

If the terrorists want to ensure that there would be no retaliation, they would have to destroy not only our major cities, but also our bombers, our land-based missile systems, our complete command and control network, and our nuclear submarines.

They cannot do this, and escalation brings with it such huge risks of anihilation of the Islamic world that it would seem incomprehensible that they would try to raise the stakes. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.


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1 posted on 07/31/2005 7:28:58 PM PDT by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

What do the Islamofascists have to lose? Nothing, and that's the problem. The Islamic world is a pile of crap from 1400 years of mismanagement, meanwhile the west has been prospering. Destroying the world might even be a goal for some of these terrorist scum, the superiority of the west cannot coexist with Allah's teachings.


2 posted on 07/31/2005 7:32:29 PM PDT by CaliGangsta
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid
If the terrorists want to ensure that there would be no retaliation, they would have to destroy not only our major cities, but also our bombers, our land-based missile systems, our complete command and control network, and our nuclear submarines.

Or, our will and ability to retaliate. Don't we have to ask permission of France and CAIR first, and Harry Reid et al.?

3 posted on 07/31/2005 7:34:18 PM PDT by Coyoteman
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

Demi-rat + President = Bye Bye 20 U.S. Cities.


4 posted on 07/31/2005 7:34:28 PM PDT by splint (...another proud member of the sand to glass club!)
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To: CaliGangsta
What do the Islamofascists have to lose?

Mecca.

5 posted on 07/31/2005 7:34:35 PM PDT by Prime Choice (Thanks to the Leftists, yesterday's deviants are today's "alternate lifestyles.")
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid
We currently have Poseiden Nuclear Submarines on patrol in the Indian Ocean

umm, i dont think so. Maybe Trident but not Poseiden.

6 posted on 07/31/2005 7:36:26 PM PDT by corkoman (Overhyped)
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To: Prime Choice

I was going to ask the author of this piece, "what target are you going to nuke?"

So we vaporize a rock... so what.


7 posted on 07/31/2005 7:36:27 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid
You want to escalate, we'll escalate, and you'll lose


8 posted on 07/31/2005 7:36:40 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Prime Choice

For starters. Then Medina, Qom.


9 posted on 07/31/2005 7:36:43 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocity of 11 Sept.)
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid
Ummm...don't wanna rain on your parade or anything, guy, but Poseidon was retired a long time ago. And, we never had a SSBN capable of throwing "50 missiles". Current SSBN's (Trident) carry 24 SLBM's; some MIRVed with 6 heads, others with 8 and a few carry only one. We also have the SSN fleet with SLCM capability that can carry nuke heads if deployed in that manner.

As to your general thesis, no American president will ever authorize nuclear release authority unless a terrorist WMD can be publically and specifically traced to an actual foreign government who provided the direct logistical support.

10 posted on 07/31/2005 7:37:36 PM PDT by seadevil (...because you're a blithering idiot, that's why. Next question?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

"Say hello to my little friend!"


11 posted on 07/31/2005 7:37:59 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (Member - NRA, SAF, MGO, SAFR)
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

Suitcase nukes are an urban myth.


12 posted on 07/31/2005 7:39:54 PM PDT by jbstrick (insert clever tagline here)
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To: Prime Choice

I've got bad news for you: The destruction of Mecca is a prophesy to the end times. At the rate Islamofascists are going, it's a self-fulfilling prophesy, because at the rate they're going, we're going to destroy it sooner or later. My question is, will its destruction make them stronger or weaker?


13 posted on 07/31/2005 7:40:01 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid
Ok, a suitcase nuke has just vaporized lower Manhatten, whom do you propose to retaliate against?


14 posted on 07/31/2005 7:40:10 PM PDT by nathanbedford (Lose your borders, lose your citizenship; lose your citizenship, lose your Bill of Rights)
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To: coloradan

The temple has to be rebuilt on the Dome of the Rock first, though, right?


15 posted on 07/31/2005 7:42:15 PM PDT by TheGeezer
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To: MrB
So we vaporize a rock... so what.

Good question. Ask a Muslim. Note the response. Nufsed.

16 posted on 07/31/2005 7:42:18 PM PDT by Prime Choice (Thanks to the Leftists, yesterday's deviants are today's "alternate lifestyles.")
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To: jbstrick
Suitcase nukes are an urban myth.

Actually, not. Whether any are still functional is a question, but it would take major support to keep any of them ready to go. Whether the bad guys actually possess any is unknown. Anything is possible.

17 posted on 07/31/2005 7:42:51 PM PDT by RightWhale (Substance is essentially the relationship of accidents to itself)
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To: nathanbedford

Everybody.


18 posted on 07/31/2005 7:42:55 PM PDT by TheGeezer
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To: CaliGangsta

Good point. People who have nothing to lose are dangerous because they just don't give a damn.

If you're living in and on an anthill, you don't even know the benefits or reason for a law abiding society or culture.

Everyone has to make some sacrifice for an orderly and safe society. We all benefit from a certain amount of sacrifice so you can walk down the street safely.


19 posted on 07/31/2005 7:43:15 PM PDT by garyhope (The Islamofascists want Western civilization dead. Simple as that.)
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To: coloradan

Prophecy by whom?..Chapter and verse please.


20 posted on 07/31/2005 7:43:38 PM PDT by splint (...another proud member of the sand to glass club!)
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