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1 posted on 07/31/2005 4:55:41 PM PDT by doug from upland
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"They had to move the body so that his office was not sealed as a crime scene. The FBI would have had jurisdiction, rather than the Park Police who were pushed around by Bernie Nussbaum as documents were removed from Foster's office."

Yup! Foster's office was cleaned out before any serious investigators could get in there.

2 posted on 07/31/2005 4:58:16 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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"David BenVineste, the disgusting, lying DemocRAT spinning lawyer"

Is that Richard BenVineste?


3 posted on 07/31/2005 4:58:42 PM PDT by leadpenny
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bttt


6 posted on 07/31/2005 5:02:59 PM PDT by nopardons
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BTTT!


7 posted on 07/31/2005 5:03:36 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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There have been some pretty interesting speculations that Hitlery, or even Bubba himself was the trigger person.


8 posted on 07/31/2005 5:06:50 PM PDT by djf (Government wants the same things I do - MY guns, MY property, MY freedoms!)
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My question is, Why is it that neither Party or any Federal Office or Official that we have entrusted to carry out investigations and inquiries about such matters has not done it's job. Why hasn't the Senate, or the House - both of which are controlled by the Republican Majority- not done it's duty!?

Instead we have a former President who for all we know may have committed treason among other violations of the US Constitution and his Office. We also have another former President, paling around with President Clinton, lending credibility to his actions. Now we have a President who will not secure our borders, and calls US Citizens doing their country to protect the country, Vigilantes.

There is so much more than meets the eye here. We are being led away from the Freedoms and rights guranteed by the US Constitution, to form the New World Order government.

What they are not getting is the Muslim 5th column, and it's going to get both the Repubs and the Dems. The Treachory of the Muslims is ancient history.


9 posted on 07/31/2005 5:11:54 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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Awesome. Bookmarking.


10 posted on 07/31/2005 5:14:46 PM PDT by andyandval (Try flushing a book down the toilet....get back to me on how you did)
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Ron Brown's murder... Foster's murder... and the Panama Canal give away... its all old stuff. We have discussed Bill Clinton's treason to the point of exhaustion. As long as government allows Ted Kennedy to get away with murder do not look for the Clinton's to receive justice.

The fact is... you and I will never see justice until the day the Good Lord calls us home. Believe it or not I look forward to that day.

11 posted on 07/31/2005 5:15:30 PM PDT by Luke (CPO, USCG (Ret))
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Yep, we had a seriously criminal administration in Clinton, etc. Yet even the lone ranger Bush took no effective action against this criminal conspiracy. Why not? My guess is that this administration is dirty as well.
17 posted on 07/31/2005 5:26:41 PM PDT by GregoryFul
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I've been in this forum for nearly seven years ... as has Doug from Upland. DfU, although well intentioned, is rarely right about anything ... he throws stuff out that titillates ... but can never be substantiated ... or, never turns out to implicate the party (Clinton, or some Clintonista) as promised.
25 posted on 07/31/2005 5:58:23 PM PDT by BluH2o
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I'm not sure I agree that Vince killed himself, but he certainly dies in the White House. The motive, either way, is the same. Vince was deeply involved with the Iraqi oil money, either vouchers, oil-for-food-program, or some other skim not yet known that was following to Willie's account in Switzerland, either directly or through a trusted Willie surrogate. Vince could no longer take Willie's criminality and decided to take it public (and, thus, was murdered) or so no alternative but suicide.

But, since Vince was involved with the other intern, the one who was murdered in the coffee shop, I believe he was murdered, as well.

The obsessive efforts of the dem scum to differentiate terrorism/9-11 and Iraq/Saddam has nothing to do with Bush. It is to keep the investigation from looping back to discover Willie's involvement with Iraqi oil money and, thence, to Vince's death and the cover up conspiracy. It is why Berger steals.

26 posted on 07/31/2005 5:58:26 PM PDT by Tacis ("Democrats - The Party of Traitors, Treachery and Treason!")
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I blame the MSM. Repeatedly, when anyone dared to ask any questions during the Foster ordeal, MSM would make them look like conspiracy theorists or wackos, like just suggesting such a thing was beyond the pale. They did their darndest to cover this up, when they should have been investigating the story of the century.


32 posted on 07/31/2005 6:24:51 PM PDT by sportutegrl (People who say, "All I know is . . ." really mean, "All I want you to focus on is . . .")
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Ask Senator Hillary Clinton to investigate this -- to give her run in 2008 credibility ( /sarcasm off )


33 posted on 07/31/2005 6:35:14 PM PDT by topher (God bless our troops and protect them)
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Where's the rest of the story?

I think the case of Henry Marshall is a clue. The Department of Agriculture official in Bryan, Texas, was found dead on 3rd June 1961. Shot five times with a .22-caliber rifle, the Texas officials ruled it a suicide.

Billie Sol Estes a LBJ associate was screwing DoA out of millions and Marshall was about to prove it.

It was twenty years later that Mac Wallace a convicted murderer in the early 1950s and a close associate of LBJ was named by Estes as the killer of Marshall.

To wit, "On 9th August, 1984, Estes' lawyer, Douglas Caddy, wrote to Stephen S. Trott at the U.S. Department of Justice. In the letter Caddy claimed that Estes, Lyndon B. Johnson, Mac Wallace and Cliff Carter had been involved in the murders of Henry Marshall [et al. (many et al's!)]"

Though much was reported about Billie Sol Estes' shenanigans by the MSM while JFK was still alive after LBJ became president you had to hunt real hard for limited circulation magazines to follow the case. There was no modern talk radio and no Internet.

The point is, it's the President's control over a willing MSM (this is before the MSM turned against LBJ to support their Ho in Hanoi).

It'll maybe be twenty years before the final story of Foster is known. I think that most believe it really was a suicide (but not in the park) and, some say, caused by the swirling scandals at the national level and the fact that he was over his head covering up for the Clintons. The tainted blood scandal for example. Washington ain't Little Rock.

37 posted on 07/31/2005 7:19:20 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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"Their testimony would have collapsed the Clinton administration's house of cards. I called D'Amato's office many times demanding that they call in the troopers to testify because Dickey was lying. They got tired of hearing from me, and the last few times I called, they just hung up the phone"

I seriously doubt that it would have. In fact there is nothing Clinton could have done that would have gotten him removed from office. If the treasonous act of selling sensitive military technology to the Chinese - whose generals have openly threatened to nuke the US - wasn't enough to remove the great stainmaker, there is nothing that would have been.

We all know what a complete abomination Bill Clinton is, how he led a regime of utter corruption for eight long years. That's a given. The real question lies with the utter failure of the opposition party who was supposed to reign him in. He was allowed to skate on every single outrage.

To this very day (five years after the fact), the Bush administration is fighting (with our tax dollars) lawsuits brought against Clinton administration officials to expose their various schemes and operations. Why? There have been no investigations of Clinton activities, nor have Clinton-appointed apparatchiks been removed from their government jobs - Norm Mineta being the most visible example. On 9/12/01 Bush could have fired every single Clinton lackey in DC and enjoyed widespread public support for doing so. Why didn't he? The Republicans control both houes of Congress and not a thing has been done. Worse, they participated in laughable white-wash commission about the 9/11 attacks starring such luminaries are Jamie Gorelick and Richard Ben Veniste that tells us that the apparatchiks were doing their jobs all those years and mere suffered from a "lack of imagination." Why?

It's possible a number of leading Republican pols are themselves in on the deal with the Chinese - which woud make them likewise guilty of treason. I also wouldn't rule out a significant blackmail operation via the 900-plus FBI files that Hillary got hold of. Hillary is certainly planning to take over on Jan. 21, 2009, and the Republicans appear to be doing their very best to help her along.


38 posted on 07/31/2005 7:20:55 PM PDT by Bogolyubski
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If all the facts ever come out about Mena and other little tidbits it would not only be the Clintons who whose 'careers' would be over...

Willy is golden...it took plenty of compromised insiders to cover up all the gore then and now..

Willy's impeachment was well handled...he's free and his 'wife' will be running for the presidency soon enough..

imo

42 posted on 07/31/2005 8:12:51 PM PDT by joesnuffy (The state always has solutions to the problems it creates...more freedom will never be a solution)
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I believe Foster did kill himself, but he did it at the White House. They had to move the body so that his office was not sealed as a crime scene. The FBI would have had jurisdiction, rather than the Park Police who were pushed around by Bernie Nussbaum as documents were removed from Foster's office.

Yes, that's my belief too.

47 posted on 07/31/2005 9:18:57 PM PDT by FreeReign
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I still think Vince was murdered when he wouldn't play ball in covering up Clinton corruption.


48 posted on 07/31/2005 9:19:58 PM PDT by Bullish (Proudly and consistently hating the Clinton's since 1992)
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BUDDY WAS MURDERED

Buddy was murdered because he was going to go public with allegations of sexual abuse by the Abuser in Chief. Why else would a perfectly normal chocolate lab run in front of a car?

49 posted on 07/31/2005 9:23:44 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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The Clintons Terrorist Ties

Arkansas Connections: A Time-line of the Clinton Years by Sam Smith 1990 ON

Clinton's Pardons List: Information From Answers.com

52 posted on 07/31/2005 9:26:07 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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