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VIDEO re: Foster death -- you will be very, very angry when you see this video clip
NewsMax dot com ^ | 7-31-05 | dfu

Posted on 07/31/2005 4:55:41 PM PDT by doug from upland

Edited on 07/31/2005 5:04:33 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

SCROLL HALFWAY DOWN THE PAGE TO THE LARRY PATTERSON CLIP. The first few minutes, Putnam is doing a NesMax commercial. If you like, you can fast forward a few minutes to get to the meat of it.

This is a commercial for Larry Patterson's book - MORE THAN SEX, WORSE THAN LIES. I have met Larry twice and believe him to be a stand up guy.

Helen Dickey, Chelsea's nanny, lied her butt off before Al D'Amato's committee investigating the death of Foster. She lied about the timeline.

According to Patterson, friends of Foster at the Arkansas statehouse knew of his death before the body was discovered. Richard BenVineste, the disgusting, lying DemocRAT spinning lawyer, got on the record that the troopers didn't want to testify. ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE!

Their testimony would have collapsed the Clinton administration's house of cards. I called D'Amato's office many times demanding that they call in the troopers to testify because Dickey was lying. They got tired of hearing from me, and the last few times I called, they just hung up the phone.

I believe Foster did kill himself, but he did it at the White House. They had to move the body so that his office was not sealed as a crime scene. The FBI would have had jurisdiction, rather than the Park Police who were pushed around by Bernie Nussbaum as documents were removed from Foster's office.

Had the troopers been called, the Clinton presidency would have been over.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bushelder; cnim; coverup; foster; impeachedx42; so; vincefoster; whitewater
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To: doug from upland

These are th equestions we need ot ask ourselves and our lawmakers. We send them to Washington to watch out for our interests, it seems that they are not doing theit jobs. This means that we must do ours and elect people that will do the job and ask the questions that need asked and th einvestigations that should and must be made!


22 posted on 07/31/2005 5:38:42 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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To: SteveMcKing

No doubt, she is pulling out all the stops. It's 08 or never for her.


23 posted on 07/31/2005 5:40:27 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: investigateworld

What was it that Barry Seal did? Drugs? And how did he get hooked up with Ben Vinista?


24 posted on 07/31/2005 5:43:58 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: doug from upland
I've been in this forum for nearly seven years ... as has Doug from Upland. DfU, although well intentioned, is rarely right about anything ... he throws stuff out that titillates ... but can never be substantiated ... or, never turns out to implicate the party (Clinton, or some Clintonista) as promised.
25 posted on 07/31/2005 5:58:23 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: doug from upland
I'm not sure I agree that Vince killed himself, but he certainly dies in the White House. The motive, either way, is the same. Vince was deeply involved with the Iraqi oil money, either vouchers, oil-for-food-program, or some other skim not yet known that was following to Willie's account in Switzerland, either directly or through a trusted Willie surrogate. Vince could no longer take Willie's criminality and decided to take it public (and, thus, was murdered) or so no alternative but suicide.

But, since Vince was involved with the other intern, the one who was murdered in the coffee shop, I believe he was murdered, as well.

The obsessive efforts of the dem scum to differentiate terrorism/9-11 and Iraq/Saddam has nothing to do with Bush. It is to keep the investigation from looping back to discover Willie's involvement with Iraqi oil money and, thence, to Vince's death and the cover up conspiracy. It is why Berger steals.

26 posted on 07/31/2005 5:58:26 PM PDT by Tacis ("Democrats - The Party of Traitors, Treachery and Treason!")
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To: leadpenny

Barry Seal was the main pilot in the Mena Airport thing. I'd burn up a lot of bandwidth trying to 'splain it all here. Try to Find a copy of Terrence Reed's book about Bush (I) and Clinton. A lot of people call it tin foil hat stuff, but look at how Sandy Berger is sliding on some series felonies. How Seal got hooked with Ben-Venitsete I don't know, but Seal, even after being I.D'd as an informant RE: Sandinista coke smuggling was sent to a Salvation Army half-way house where some thugs from Latin America nailed him.


27 posted on 07/31/2005 6:01:31 PM PDT by investigateworld ( God bless Poland for giving the world JP II & a Protestant bump for his Sainthood!)
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To: GregoryFul

Yep, both are dity and it is putting every citizen of this country at risk with all the coverups that the Clinton are getting away with. We have the perfect storm of an aging "me generation" and demoRATS who will do or say anything to get back in power. If you want to see the future of the country just look at what is happening in California. Tick-tock


28 posted on 07/31/2005 6:15:46 PM PDT by John Lenin (Hillary Clinton: Voted 6th most evil person of the last millennium)
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To: doug from upland
According to Patterson, friends of Foster at the Arkansas statehouse knew of his death before the body was discovered. Richard BenVineste, the disgusting

He did Doug.

29 posted on 07/31/2005 6:15:52 PM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: newsgatherer

I have seen the affidavits from both Larry Patterson and Roger Perry. I will never understand how a committee could not call them.


30 posted on 07/31/2005 6:17:50 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: doug from upland

A lot of people are going to make sure the witch never realizes her dream. The Clintons are pure evil !


31 posted on 07/31/2005 6:21:38 PM PDT by John Lenin (Hillary Clinton: Voted 6th most evil person of the last millennium)
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To: doug from upland

I blame the MSM. Repeatedly, when anyone dared to ask any questions during the Foster ordeal, MSM would make them look like conspiracy theorists or wackos, like just suggesting such a thing was beyond the pale. They did their darndest to cover this up, when they should have been investigating the story of the century.


32 posted on 07/31/2005 6:24:51 PM PDT by sportutegrl (People who say, "All I know is . . ." really mean, "All I want you to focus on is . . .")
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To: doug from upland

Ask Senator Hillary Clinton to investigate this -- to give her run in 2008 credibility ( /sarcasm off )


33 posted on 07/31/2005 6:35:14 PM PDT by topher (God bless our troops and protect them)
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To: sportutegrl
" MSM would make them look like conspiracy theorists or wackos"----You mean people like us? ";^0
34 posted on 07/31/2005 6:37:30 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Suffering fools reluctantly since 1947.)
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To: leadpenny
What was it that Barry Seal did? Drugs? And how did he get hooked up with Ben Vinista?

Read the book entitled "Compromised" - Clinton - Bush and the CIA written around 1995 by Terry Reed. It will crul your toes. Sheds light on Webb Hubbell, hius father in law Seth Ward, cocain running through Mena Ak, chinese restaurant owner Charlie Yalin Tree (spelling), Barry Seal, Ponderosa original owner Dan Lassater, Raymond "Buddy" Young, the Rodeo Clown (in the words of Dave Barry - "I am not making thia up") and high school drop out that Clinton appointed as one of four regional directors of FEMA and many others. It would take a war room to display all the degrees of the clitoon network.
35 posted on 07/31/2005 6:54:22 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: tang-soo


Clinton 'knew of plan for assassination'
By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Washington

http://www.assumption.edu/WebVAX/ETnew/wclin04Aug96.html



Whitewater acquittals cheer Clinton's camp

IN THE interests of a drug-free world it is perhaps time for Britain and other Western democracies to consider banning President Clinton from visiting their countries.

After all, President Ernesto Samper of Colombia is now a pariah because of allegations that he once accepted campaign funding from the drug cartels - and it is hard to make the case that the hapless Samper did anything the current incumbent of the White House has not done himself. The allegations that Clinton dipped into the drug trough while Governor of his own narco-banana-state in Arkansas are equally persuasive. Indeed, they are worse.

Anybody who still refuses to believe that Clinton was once mixed up with the world of gun-running and drug-smuggling should read Boy Clinton, the long-awaited book by Robert Emmett Tyrrell, editor of The American Spectator. The opening chapter recounts the astounding story of L. D. Brown, an Arkansas state trooper who served as as a bodyguard to Clinton in the mid-1980s. Among other charges, the book alleges that Clinton appeared to have prior knowledge of a planned political murder in 1986.

L. D. Brown is not your typical state trooper. A man who likes to drink cognac at the Jockey Club in Washington - where he has been wined and dined countless times by Tyrrell in a two-year journalistic courtship - he is something of a sophisticate. He became Clinton's "fair-haired boy" and his arch-accomplice, allegedly soliciting more than a hundred women for the Governor's delectation. His wife was nanny to Mr Clinton's daughter, Chelsea. Nobody had a better ringside seat at the Arkansas Governor's Mansion in the mid-1980s.

Brown says that Clinton encouraged him to join the CIA in 1984. Clinton helped with the application, at one point scribbling annotations on drafts of an essay called "Marxist Influence in Central America" which Brown had written for the CIA. Eventually Brown was accepted by the agency.

Still a state trooper, Brown soon found himself drawn into the vortex of a clandestine operation based at the Mena airport, in western Arkansas, which was used to supply weapons to the Nicaraguan Contras. He went on two trips to Central America with Barry Seal, a notorious drug smuggler who had supposedly turned over a new leaf and was now working for the US government. On the second flight he discovered that the aircraft was coming back to Arkansas with duffel bags full of cocaine.



There seemed to be a plan to kill 'anybody that apparently had anything to do with what happened at Mena'
"Do you know what they're bringing back on those planes? They're bringing back coke," he said, confronting Clinton. "That's Lasater's deal," said Clinton. He was referring to Dan Lasater, a Little Rock tycoon who went to prison two years later for cocaine distribution. Lasater had been the subject of scrutiny by the Drug Enforcement Administration for a number of years.

Lasater was a major contributor to Clinton's electoral campaigns. One of Lasater's former girlfriends, Patty-Ann Smith, has told The Telegraph that Lasater and Clinton were extremely close, and she once saw the two of them snorting cocaine in the kitchen of Lasater's house.

The smuggler Barry Seal was assassinated in February 1986, ostensibly by Colombian hitmen. Shortly afterwards Brown was instructed to go to Mexico to murder Seal's co-pilot. He flew to Puerto Vallarta on June 18, 1986, was issued with a rifle and led to his victim. But the man was not Seal's co-pilot. Instead it was a CIA contract employee called Terry Reed, who had worked on a different part of the Mena operation.

Brown backed out at the last moment. He told Tyrrell that there seemed to be a plan to kill "anybody that apparently had anything to do with what happened at Mena". Brown alleges that he told Clinton about the assassination mission to Mexico and Clinton simply said: "Oh, that's good, that's good, L. D." Looking back, Brown believes Clinton knew that the intended quarry was Reed.

Reed claims to have been in a bunker outside Little Rock in 1986 when Clinton met Lt-Col Oliver North and others to discuss the secret scheme to resupply the Contras. He would rather not have witnessed it, because it made him a walking liability. Reed was hunted down and arrested on trumped up criminal charges. After a three-year ordeal he was acquitted, with the judge reprimanding the prosecutor for abuse of power. Ever since, he has been fighting in the courts to find out who orchestrated the efforts to destroy him.

Now, the American media will try to ignore this whole shocking saga, continuing the conspiracy of silence. Instead, they will serve us a warmed-over dish of Whitewater, as if anybody cared about that petty infraction. Death squads are much more interesting.

This report appeared in the last edition of The Sunday Telegraph


36 posted on 07/31/2005 7:16:10 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: All
Where's the rest of the story?

I think the case of Henry Marshall is a clue. The Department of Agriculture official in Bryan, Texas, was found dead on 3rd June 1961. Shot five times with a .22-caliber rifle, the Texas officials ruled it a suicide.

Billie Sol Estes a LBJ associate was screwing DoA out of millions and Marshall was about to prove it.

It was twenty years later that Mac Wallace a convicted murderer in the early 1950s and a close associate of LBJ was named by Estes as the killer of Marshall.

To wit, "On 9th August, 1984, Estes' lawyer, Douglas Caddy, wrote to Stephen S. Trott at the U.S. Department of Justice. In the letter Caddy claimed that Estes, Lyndon B. Johnson, Mac Wallace and Cliff Carter had been involved in the murders of Henry Marshall [et al. (many et al's!)]"

Though much was reported about Billie Sol Estes' shenanigans by the MSM while JFK was still alive after LBJ became president you had to hunt real hard for limited circulation magazines to follow the case. There was no modern talk radio and no Internet.

The point is, it's the President's control over a willing MSM (this is before the MSM turned against LBJ to support their Ho in Hanoi).

It'll maybe be twenty years before the final story of Foster is known. I think that most believe it really was a suicide (but not in the park) and, some say, caused by the swirling scandals at the national level and the fact that he was over his head covering up for the Clintons. The tainted blood scandal for example. Washington ain't Little Rock.

37 posted on 07/31/2005 7:19:20 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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To: doug from upland

"Their testimony would have collapsed the Clinton administration's house of cards. I called D'Amato's office many times demanding that they call in the troopers to testify because Dickey was lying. They got tired of hearing from me, and the last few times I called, they just hung up the phone"

I seriously doubt that it would have. In fact there is nothing Clinton could have done that would have gotten him removed from office. If the treasonous act of selling sensitive military technology to the Chinese - whose generals have openly threatened to nuke the US - wasn't enough to remove the great stainmaker, there is nothing that would have been.

We all know what a complete abomination Bill Clinton is, how he led a regime of utter corruption for eight long years. That's a given. The real question lies with the utter failure of the opposition party who was supposed to reign him in. He was allowed to skate on every single outrage.

To this very day (five years after the fact), the Bush administration is fighting (with our tax dollars) lawsuits brought against Clinton administration officials to expose their various schemes and operations. Why? There have been no investigations of Clinton activities, nor have Clinton-appointed apparatchiks been removed from their government jobs - Norm Mineta being the most visible example. On 9/12/01 Bush could have fired every single Clinton lackey in DC and enjoyed widespread public support for doing so. Why didn't he? The Republicans control both houes of Congress and not a thing has been done. Worse, they participated in laughable white-wash commission about the 9/11 attacks starring such luminaries are Jamie Gorelick and Richard Ben Veniste that tells us that the apparatchiks were doing their jobs all those years and mere suffered from a "lack of imagination." Why?

It's possible a number of leading Republican pols are themselves in on the deal with the Chinese - which woud make them likewise guilty of treason. I also wouldn't rule out a significant blackmail operation via the 900-plus FBI files that Hillary got hold of. Hillary is certainly planning to take over on Jan. 21, 2009, and the Republicans appear to be doing their very best to help her along.


38 posted on 07/31/2005 7:20:55 PM PDT by Bogolyubski
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To: Bogolyubski

I will respectfully disagree. We had taken the Congress back so we could hold hearings. We had subpoena power. If the troopers testified that they knew of Foster's death before his body was found and before Clinton knew, all hell would have broken loose.


39 posted on 07/31/2005 7:28:12 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: GregoryFul
RE: "Yet even the lone ranger Bush took no effective action against this criminal conspiracy. Why not?"

Bill O'Reilly reported on his radio show several times that the Democrats in Congress told the new President that if he even thought about allowing investigations of the Clintons he would not get anything through Congress.

Though your idea has merit also, IMO. I.e., "My guess is that this administration is dirty as well."

It ain't Bush bashing, it's politics as usual.

40 posted on 07/31/2005 7:29:16 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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