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FINAL CAFTA VOTE ROLL CALL - How did your Congressman Vote?
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Posted on 07/28/2005 8:13:58 AM PDT by Happy2BMe

FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 443
(Republicans in roman; Democrats in italic; Independents underlined)

      H R 3045      RECORDED VOTE      28-Jul-2005      12:03 AM
      QUESTION:  On Passage
      BILL TITLE: Dominican Republic-Central America-United States Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act

Ayes Noes PRES NV
Republican 202 27   2
Democratic 15 187    
Independent   1    
TOTALS 217 215   2


---- AYES    217 ---

Aderholt
Akin
Alexander
Bachus
Baker
Barrett (SC)
Bartlett (MD)
Barton (TX)
Bass
Bean
Beauprez
Biggert
Bilirakis
Bishop (UT)
Blackburn
Blunt
Boehlert
Boehner
Bonilla
Bonner
Bono
Boozman
Bradley (NH)
Brady (TX)
Brown (SC)
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Buyer
Calvert
Camp
Cannon
Cantor
Carter
Castle
Chabot
Chocola
Cole (OK)
Conaway
Cooper
Cox
Crenshaw
Cuellar
Culberson
Cunningham
Davis (KY)
Davis, Tom
Deal (GA)
DeLay
Dent
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
Dicks
Doolittle
Drake
Dreier
Duncan
Ehlers
Emerson
English (PA)
Everett
Feeney
Ferguson
Fitzpatrick (PA)
Flake
Foley
Forbes
Fortenberry
Fossella
Franks (AZ)
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Gerlach
Gibbons
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gingrey
Gohmert
Goodlatte
Granger
Graves
Green (WI)
Hall
Harris
Hart
Hastert
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Hayworth
Hefley
Hensarling
Herger
Hinojosa
Hobson
Hoekstra
Hulshof
Hyde
Inglis (SC)
Issa
Istook
Jefferson
Jenkins
Johnson (CT)
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, Sam
Keller
Kelly
Kennedy (MN)
King (IA)
King (NY)
Kingston
Kirk
Kline
Knollenberg
Kolbe
Kuhl (NY)
LaHood
Latham
LaTourette
Leach
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Linder
Lucas
Lungren, Daniel E.
Manzullo
Marchant
Matheson
McCaul (TX)
McCrery
McKeon
McMorris
Meeks (NY)
Mica
Miller (FL)
Miller, Gary
Moore (KS)
Moran (KS)
Moran (VA)
Murphy
Musgrave
Myrick
Neugebauer
Northup
Nunes
Nussle
Ortiz
Osborne
Oxley
Pearce
Pence
Peterson (PA)
Petri
Pickering
Pitts
Platts
Poe
Pombo
Porter
Price (GA)
Pryce (OH)
Putnam
Radanovich
Ramstad
Regula
Reichert
Renzi
Reynolds
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Ros-Lehtinen
Royce
Ryan (WI)
Ryun (KS)
Saxton
Schwarz (MI)
Sensenbrenner
Sessions
Shadegg
Shaw
Shays
Sherwood
Shimkus
Shuster
Skelton
Smith (TX)
Snyder
Sodrel
Souder
Stearns
Sullivan
Sweeney
Tanner
Terry
Thomas
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Tiberi
Towns
Turner
Upton
Walden (OR)
Walsh
Wamp
Weldon (FL)
Weldon (PA)
Weller
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Wicker
Wilson (NM)
Wilson (SC)
Wolf
Young (AK)
Young (FL)

---- NOES    215 ---

Abercrombie
Ackerman
Allen
Andrews
Baca
Baird
Baldwin
Barrow
Becerra
Berkley
Berman
Berry
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Blumenauer
Boren
Boswell
Boucher
Boustany
Boyd
Brady (PA)
Brown (OH)
Brown, Corrine
Butterfield
Capito
Capps
Capuano
Cardin
Cardoza
Carnahan
Carson
Case
Chandler
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Coble
Conyers
Costa
Costello
Cramer
Crowley
Cubin
Cummings
Davis (AL)
Davis (CA)
Davis (FL)
Davis (IL)
Davis (TN)
DeFazio
DeGette
Delahunt
DeLauro
Dingell
Doggett
Doyle
Edwards
Emanuel
Engel
Eshoo
Etheridge
Evans
Farr
Fattah
Filner
Ford
Foxx
Frank (MA)
Garrett (NJ)
Gonzalez
Goode
Gordon
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Gutknecht
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Herseth
Higgins
Hinchey
Holden
Holt
Honda
Hooley
Hostettler
Hoyer
Hunter
Inslee
Israel
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jindal
Johnson, E. B.
Jones (NC)
Jones (OH)
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kennedy (RI)
Kildee
Kilpatrick (MI)
Kind
Kucinich
Langevin
Lantos
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Lee
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
LoBiondo
Lofgren, Zoe
Lowey
Lynch
Mack
Maloney
Markey
Marshall
Matsui
McCarthy
McCollum (MN)
McCotter
McDermott
McGovern
McHenry
McHugh
McIntyre
McKinney
McNulty
Meehan
Meek (FL)
Melancon
Menendez
Michaud
Millender-McDonald
Miller (MI)
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Mollohan
Moore (WI)
Murtha
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal (MA)
Ney
Norwood
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Otter
Owens
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor
Paul
Payne
Pelosi
Peterson (MN)
Pomeroy
Price (NC)
Rahall
Rangel
Rehberg
Reyes
Ross
Rothman
Roybal-Allard
Ruppersberger
Rush
Ryan (OH)
Sabo
Salazar
Sánchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sanders
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schwartz (PA)
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Sherman
Simmons
Simpson
Slaughter
Smith (NJ)
Smith (WA)
Solis
Spratt
Stark
Strickland
Stupak
Tancredo
Tauscher
Taylor (MS)
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Tierney
Udall (CO)
Udall (NM)
Van Hollen
Velázquez
Visclosky
Wasserman Schultz
Waters
Watson
Watt
Waxman
Weiner
Wexler
Woolsey
Wu
Wynn

---- NOT VOTING    2 ---

Davis, Jo Ann
Taylor (NC)




TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; cafta; prostitutes; rollcall; whores
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To: Alberta's Child
Can you give a specific example of a "free economy," and list some of the characteristics that define it?

Not sure about a list, but it boils down to this:

From an economic perspective, any government should be about removing the barriers to free trade. Taxes, fees, regulations, restrictions, etc., are all barriers to free trade imposed by government on its own industries. Whereever possible, these should be reduced or eliminated. This should result in a relatively "free economy".

In order to have a level playing field, it is assumed that the country you're trading with is following a similar model. If they're not, it can often lead to imbalances on the playing field that are detrimental to your industries. Where this is the case, it is your government's responsibility to protect its industries by imposing tariffs to keep everything fair.

If this isn't done, you end up with other countries "dumping" their products on us until our competing industry segment ceases to exist. Then the other country raises the price of that product and there's nothing you can do about it, as you have no competing product.

In a perfect world, this self-checking would happen universally. Unfortunately, it is not in the best interests of some world leaders to have "free trade". Therefore, they artificially control the levels of their currency (China) to give their industries an advantage. In others, the disparity in standard of living (India) is such that their workers can afford to live on much lower wages.

This means that you end up in the situation we're finding ourselves in: 90% of the products in your house are made in China and when you call technical support on your Dell computer (most of the parts therein made in Taiwan) you end up speaking to someone in Delhi.

We're not talking about isolated industry segments here (manufacturing, textiles), we're talking about industries across the board. That's not the product of "free economies".

181 posted on 07/28/2005 10:38:51 AM PDT by Egon (By the way, I took the liberty of fertilizing your caviar.)
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To: captnorb
"We hope we won't have to buy any weapons from China to defend ourselves from China."

In WWII Japan was shooting US steel at our soldiers. Wall Street played a large roll in NAZI Germany's build up just prior to WWII. But hey! Those companies made quite a profit and that's all that seems to be what really matters to some at the time I guess. Here we go again...

182 posted on 07/28/2005 10:39:26 AM PDT by Ex-expromissor (Know Your Enemy)
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To: Colorado Doug

Nice strawman...what does our government's inability to enforce trade law with China have to do with Cafta? Answer: zero.


183 posted on 07/28/2005 10:39:50 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: hedgetrimmer
WOW! I didn't know that. I also hear their is a free South American Trade agreement also in the works.
184 posted on 07/28/2005 10:40:06 AM PDT by Major_Risktaker
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To: Ex-expromissor

So you're saying Costa Ricans are going to build weapons based on Cafta? Huh?


185 posted on 07/28/2005 10:40:43 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: Dazedcat

Most of the pro-CAFTA/NAFTA people think only on the profit side of the equation with little or no consideration to the human element of business. Truely sad.


186 posted on 07/28/2005 10:42:25 AM PDT by politicalwit (Due to the shortage of virgins, all suicide bombings have been cancelled.)
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To: Syds Dad
One of the untold stories about NAFTA is that it helped the U.S. maintain some level of control over critical imports from our North American neighbors.

A brief history lesson is in order here. Back in the early 1980s when oil prices were at record highs, the region around Fort McMurray in northern Alberta started to attract a lot of attention as a source of oil for North America. The oil from that area is very expensive to refine, so it never made sense to extract it when the price of oil was lower. A company called Suncor was able to develop a process for extracting and refining that oil for something like $15 per barrel, and when the price of oil rose above the $30-$35 mark there was an enormous economic boom in Western Canada.

That boom was very short-lived, and its collapse was hastened by what was know in Canada as the National Energy Policy -- in which the Trudeau government basically forced the nation's producers (particularly the government-owned Petro-Canada) to ship a substantial portion of their product to eastern Canadian cities at below-market prices rather than sell them on the global market. The Alberta economy collapsed, and to this day western Canadians derisively refer to those times using a creative acronym for the old Petro-Canada ("Pierre Elliott Trudeau Ripped Off Canada").

A similar situation could very well have occurred in recent times, as the price of oil has again reached historic highs. Even worse -- there was public pressure across Canada to apply that socialist redistribution of Canadian wealth to natural gas, not just oil (the price of natural gas skyrocketed in the late 1990s and in 2000 even as oil prices were still low). The Canadian government was explicitly prevented from doing such a thing because it would have been a clear violation of the North American Free Trade Agreement.

It's no accident that Canada and Mexico have recently passed Saudi Arabia as the largest suppliers of crude oil to the United States.

187 posted on 07/28/2005 10:43:46 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: shield
I think you'd better look at the facts on this. When did China purchase the Panama Canal? I'd appreciate you posting factual information on this purchase transaction, please.

Please, you know exactly what I mean. Don't pretend otherwise. If you don't think that China controls the canal, then tell me who does. i would appreciate your not throwing out straw men based on splitting hairs. Try addressing the substance of the post and not some trite point contained therein. Our Representatives unleashed the monster that is China, now you claim that we have to have this WTO controlled mess to counter China.

188 posted on 07/28/2005 10:46:38 AM PDT by Colorado Doug (Diversity is divisive. E. Pluribus Unum)
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To: Happy2BMe
And the ironic thing about it is it was handed to them by the GOP.

They were willing to do the job that ordinary Republican congressmen wouldn't.

Viva la CAFTA y viva los Mexicrats!
189 posted on 07/28/2005 10:47:20 AM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: Tulane
Again, they have the power to delegate that authority,

No they don't. The Constitution doesn't give the Congress the authority to change responsiblity for trade.

Because the Constitution was predicated on elected representation, when Congress abdicated its authority this way, it positively struck a blow at the Constitution and its primary purpose-- to protect individual rights.

"Free traders" seem quite willing to give up elected representation for trade deals, but most of the American people are not willing to do so.
190 posted on 07/28/2005 10:48:58 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Happy2BMe

My conservative Republican congressman voted for CAFTA.

Doing the right thing for America.


191 posted on 07/28/2005 10:51:30 AM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: politicalwit

Most of the who think they are entitled to the same job year after year don't live in the real world, how sad.


192 posted on 07/28/2005 10:51:34 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: Happy2BMe
Last night was a great victory for the Democratic party.

And the ironic thing about it is it was handed to them by the GOP

Wow the truth from happy, you support the democrats. I posted a picture of one of your "goddesses" so you don't have to run down to the local DNC headquaters to give offerings.


193 posted on 07/28/2005 10:52:08 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Tulane
"They delegated that authority..."

Please direct me to the part of the Constitution which allows Congress the authority to do so.

"...why don't you get someone ti sue the Congress and claim it was an unconstitutional delegation of power..."

For the same reason that no one will sue all of the past US Presidents who have declared War when only Congress has that authority. Most US citizens obviously don't care any more. Blowing off the Constitution is now "cool". We are now happily on our way to a North American version of the EU. Oh Joy!

194 posted on 07/28/2005 10:52:31 AM PDT by Ex-expromissor (Know Your Enemy)
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To: hedgetrimmer

So you're saying there are no implicit powers conferred upon the Congress by the Constitution? You sure you want to stick with that one?


195 posted on 07/28/2005 10:53:16 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: Tulane
So you're saying Costa Ricans are going to build weapons based on Cafta? Huh?

You ain't playing by the rules. You are actually using logic.

196 posted on 07/28/2005 10:53:49 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Dane

AHG! GASP!! PUT THAT AWAY!!!


197 posted on 07/28/2005 10:53:59 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: hedgetrimmer
"Free traders seem quite willing...."

We, the unwashed populist fools, shouldn't have a say in trade deals, anyway. I just want to be a Gamma. Let the natural born leaders take care of all the important stuff. (/Alpha praise)

The Left doesn't hold the monopoly on elitism--only 95% of the time.
198 posted on 07/28/2005 10:54:32 AM PDT by Das Outsider
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To: Ex-expromissor

Oh, maybe you forgot about the mountains of American jurisprudence that steadfaslty holds that the Constitution contains both express and implicit grants of power.


199 posted on 07/28/2005 10:55:54 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: Tulane

"Most of the who think they are entitled to the same job year after year don't live in the real world, how sad."

Yes, stability in your life, your work and your family are terrible things. We should require every employer terminate employees at well just to keep the slackers on their feet.


200 posted on 07/28/2005 10:57:29 AM PDT by politicalwit (Due to the shortage of virgins, all suicide bombings have been cancelled.)
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