Larry Johnson's Group (VIPS) Called On CIA Employees To Leak Secrets To Hurt Bush

Associated Press ^ | March 17, 2003 | Unknown

[Sam Hill]

Ex-CIA Accuse Bush of Manipulating Iraq Evidence

Monday, March 17, 2003

WASHINGTON — Invoking

the name of a Pentagon whistle-blower, a small group of retired, anti-war CIA officers are accusing the Bush administration of manipulating evidence against Iraq in order to push war while burying evidence that could show Iraq's compliance with U.N demands for disarmament.

The 25-member group, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, composed mostly of former CIA analysts along with a few operational agents, is urging employees inside the intelligence agency to break the law and leak any information they have that could show the Bush administration is engineering the release of evidence to match its penchant for war.

VIPS member Ray McGovern, a 27-year CIA veteran who gave intelligence briefings to top Reagan officials before retiring in 1990, said the administration has not made the case that Iraq has ties to Al Qaeda and is providing information that does not meet an intelligence professional's standard of proof.

"It's been cooked to a recipe, and the recipe is high policy," McGovern said. "That's why a lot of my former colleagues are holding their noses these days."

But the CIA said McGovern doesn't have any authority to speak of the quality of intelligence policy-makers are reviewing.

"He left the agency over a decade ago," spokesman Mark Mansfield said. "He's hardly in a position to comment knowledgeably on that subject."

VIPS say their appeals to CIA staff are an attempt to evoke another Daniel Ellsberg, who leaked the Pentagon Papers, a top-secret study on U.S. involvement in Vietnam.

Leaking classified national defense information is illegal, and CIA officers, who take a secrecy oath when they join could lose their security clearances or jobs, and may even face prosecution...

[Howlin]

You're already on it, but I have to remove the "luff." :-)

[kcvl]

Howlin, you called it!

Former CIA agent Larry Johnson also questioned Goss's qualifications. "There is one thing Goss didn't really do for the last several years -- he didn't chair the House Intelligence Committee, in spite of what his resume claims," said Johnson. "Instead, he did the dead man's float."

Johnson said Goss did not have the experience claimed. Goss did not "push through real reforms, for example, getting more funding for badly clandestine assets. He didn't do any of it."

Former CIA Counter-terrorism Chief Vince Cannistraro agreed: "Goss has never been very distinguished, but he's protected. He's a Bush loyalist and has been in the forefront of those who have tried to place the major blame for the 9/11 attacks on the agency."

[maggief]

:-D Thanks.

[Howlin]

Too funny.........Johnson questioning Goss' qualifications.

[Howlin]

I think that's why they hate us........LOL.

[Howlin]

It tells you MORE than you need to know about this guy.

[STARWISE]

Statement by Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, Porter J. Goss, on the WMD Commission Recommendations - 29 June 2005

At CIA, we are improving how we do our business—operationally, analytically, and technically. The responsibilities assigned to CIA underscore the critical nature of our work and the trust and confidence placed in this Agency. It also reaffirms our role as the lead for human intelligence.

In the 1990s, we suffered deep cuts in intelligence funding and investment. Now, we are rebuilding a system that includes more comprehensive global collection and more rigorous analysis. This involves both quality and quantity. We are not just bringing more people into the Agency, but the right people—those with substantive skills, language, and cultural familiarity of targets critical to America's security.

The CIA provides the United States with a unique set of capabilities and options. Further enhancing our role in defeating terrorism and the other threats confronting our country today and tomorrow is critical.

[Sam Hill]

No lie is too big for these traitors. From the guttersnipe anti-American hate site, AntiWar.com:

July 20, 2005
Plamegate: Dick Cheney's Role
by Ray McGovern

...During a radio interview with Ian Masters on April 3, 2005, former CIA operative Vincent Cannistraro charged that the Iraq-Niger documents were forged in the United States. Drawing on earlier speculation regarding who forged the documents, Masters asked, "If I were to say the name Michael Ledeen to you, what would you say?" Cannistraro replied, "You're very close."

Plamegate: Dick Cheney's Role - by Ray McGovern
http://antiwar.com/mcgovern/

[Enchante]

"The first public mention of Wilson's mission to Niger, albeit without identifying him by name, was in the New York Times on May 6, in a column by Nicholas D. Kristof. Kristof had been on a panel with Wilson four days earlier"


AND, what goes almost wholly unnoticed everywhere, that panel discussion was held for the SENATE DEMOCRATIC POLICY COMMITTEE - i.e., according to the (left wing) blog below (referencing the Vanity Fair article), TWO MONTHS before Valerie Plame was supposedly 'outed' she was attending PARTISAN meetings of the Demagogues with her lowlife husband, plotting with Nicholas Kristof of the NY Times and various Demagogue Senators to launch the highly partisan campaign against the current administration.

Can anyone find out more about this "Senate Democratic Policy Committee" and who might be involved besides the obvious suspects??? This May 2003 meeting might help to make the case that Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame had launched themselves into a partisan melee with the MSM that led directly to her name becoming known to MSM reporters, regardless of what her covert or non-covert status with the CIA may have been.... seems that she and Joe actively created the conditions which brought her into the light.....

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http://www.jimgilliam.com/about.php

... Spring 2003 –Valerie Wilson is in the process of moving from non-official to official, State Department cover, according to a later Vanity Fair article based on interviews with the Wilsons . ( Vanity Fair , January 2004). May 2003 – Joseph Wilson begins advising the Kerry campaign on foreign policy issues. ( White House expects calls… ,” USA Today, October 2003). July 6, 2003 – Wilson publishes " ...



... Interesting activity for a "covert operative" From the Jamuary 2004 Vanity Fair profile of Joe Wilson (found here ): In early May [2003], Wilson and Plame attended a conference sponsored by the Senate Democratic Policy Committee, at which Wilson spoke about Iraq; one of the other panelists was the New York Times journalist Nicholas Kristof. Over breakfast the next ...

[Howlin]

Gracey, here's the link to the "pretend" hearing that they had --

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1450548/posts?page=173#173

[STARWISE]

Oh yes .. and pages of articles open up with that keyword, and so my thought that maybe this deserves an ongoing thread, with progressive continuing editions .. I think this topic is going to unfortunately increase in scope and impact.

[Howlin]

Sam, do you have any idea how he got your email address?

If you are a monthly donor, you get an @freerepublic.com email address that forwards your email to your real email address.

I believe that's how he got Mad's.

WARNING TO ALL FREEPERS WITH @Freerepublic.com addresses: DO NOT reply to any email you get like that from your REAL email address!

[Howlin]

Look at the dates on this "memorandum" from VIPS to the president:

http://www.bnfp.org/neighborhood/VetIntPro_for_Sanity.htm

Tell me this is NOT coordinated.

[processing please hold]

This is getting deeper by the day

And I'm as pleased as punch about it. It's about damn time we pull these bastards out into the sunlight.

[mosquitobite]

Wow. Just wow.

[nuffsenuff]

I could tell you that.

But I'd be lying.

Did you guys know that Wilson went on a "fact finding" mission to Africa in 1999? At the request of the CIA?

[STARWISE]

So .. just thinking hypothetically about their ultimate diabolical plan, they're going after the whole kit and kaboodle: W, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld .. next in succession would be Hastert, right? Unless they're trying to completely re-write the Constitution .. what do you think they fantasize happening?

[processing please hold]

WHAT????

[Howlin]

A long time.

[kcvl]

3rd August 2004 : Rocco Martino: ’I am the Source of the False Niger/Iraq Uranium Story’