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Larry Johnson's Group (VIPS) Called On CIA Employees To Leak Secrets To Hurt Bush
Associated Press ^ | March 17, 2003 | Unknown

Posted on 07/25/2005 10:03:04 PM PDT by Sam Hill

Ex-CIA Accuse Bush of Manipulating Iraq Evidence

Monday, March 17, 2003

WASHINGTON — Invoking

the name of a Pentagon whistle-blower, a small group of retired, anti-war CIA officers are accusing the Bush administration of manipulating evidence against Iraq in order to push war while burying evidence that could show Iraq's compliance with U.N demands for disarmament.

The 25-member group, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, composed mostly of former CIA analysts along with a few operational agents, is urging employees inside the intelligence agency to break the law and leak any information they have that could show the Bush administration is engineering the release of evidence to match its penchant for war.

VIPS member Ray McGovern, a 27-year CIA veteran who gave intelligence briefings to top Reagan officials before retiring in 1990, said the administration has not made the case that Iraq has ties to Al Qaeda and is providing information that does not meet an intelligence professional's standard of proof.

"It's been cooked to a recipe, and the recipe is high policy," McGovern said. "That's why a lot of my former colleagues are holding their noses these days."

But the CIA said McGovern doesn't have any authority to speak of the quality of intelligence policy-makers are reviewing.

"He left the agency over a decade ago," spokesman Mark Mansfield said. "He's hardly in a position to comment knowledgeably on that subject."

VIPS say their appeals to CIA staff are an attempt to evoke another Daniel Ellsberg, who leaked the Pentagon Papers, a top-secret study on U.S. involvement in Vietnam.

Leaking classified national defense information is illegal, and CIA officers, who take a secrecy oath when they join could lose their security clearances or jobs, and may even face prosecution...

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


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To: mware

10-19-2004 is what it says on the mouse-over.


261 posted on 07/26/2005 9:41:24 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: OKIEDOC
I have contacted 4 Senators who are calling for a Congressional Investigation and advised them to read this March 17, 2003 AP article before they rely on condemnation after endorsement from this group VIPS.
262 posted on 07/26/2005 9:41:58 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: nuffsenuff

He posted another thread, it was removed, so he modified and posted it again - that was removed too. I have the last thread if you'd like me to FRMail it.


263 posted on 07/26/2005 9:42:04 AM PDT by Sax
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To: petitfour
10-19-2004 is what it says on the mouse-over.

Proceed with caution folks he is realtively new to FR. We could be getting set up.

264 posted on 07/26/2005 9:42:31 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsch"....... "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: mware

Google has Mad Mammoth's cached home page and shows a sign up date of Oct 19, 2004.


265 posted on 07/26/2005 9:42:59 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Sax

He's banned for 24hrs for violating the posting rules....he posted another thread on this and it was quickly pulled.


266 posted on 07/26/2005 9:43:03 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Home of the free, because of the Brave)
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To: mystery-ak

"He's banned for 24hrs for violating the posting rules....he posted another thread on this and it was quickly pulled."

That's too bad. He might not have seen the thread I had posted (and that was pulled), and he might have just been trying to do what some (like Howlin) suggested he do--post that email as a separate thread.

Maybe the moderator will reconsider.


267 posted on 07/26/2005 9:47:06 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: mystery-ak

Hey Larry if your involved in this traitorous cabal you need to call a press conference and fall on the knife.


268 posted on 07/26/2005 9:47:39 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Pitchforks and Lanters..with a smiley face!)
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To: Quilla

Thank you.


269 posted on 07/26/2005 9:49:05 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Sam Hill; Mad Mammoth

I feel bad....I saw his original post and requested that it needed it's own thread...sorry MM..


270 posted on 07/26/2005 9:50:12 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Home of the free, because of the Brave)
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To: Sam Hill
Since MM supplied the email headers, etc., it would be a pretty elaborate hoax, since it was Johnson's email

I am specially sensitive to this since I was banned from one of my favorite sites 7 months ago through a spoofed series of email.
Everyone swore that it was my IP, etc, even thought that was impossible.

So I don't need convincing: it is possible.

271 posted on 07/26/2005 9:52:12 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Peach
Some more VIPS in action, including Johnson and Cannistraro back in August 2004 on the Goss nomination. This politization of the Agency is without precedent. Michael Scheuer, the ex-CIA man who wrote the book Imperial Hubris while still working at the Agency is another example of rogue agents who have become political partisans and are cashing in on their "insider" knowledge. Congress needs to crack down on these crackpots.

CIA dismay at Porter Goss' nomination as DCIA

272 posted on 07/26/2005 9:53:01 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Howlin; MJY1288; mystery-ak; Sam Hill; Mad Mammoth; kcvl

Please add me to the pings .. and I'm wondering if it's possible to have one central thread that keeps up with this issue .. there are so many CIA Leak articles that this subject can get buried .. just a thought... maybe Rogue Elements .. The Formers and Ex's ..Sedition Central .. whatever you think and want. Thanks.


273 posted on 07/26/2005 9:53:34 AM PDT by STARWISE (You get the gov't you deserve. Call your Congress Critters OFTEN - 877-762-8762)
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To: Publius6961

MM has contacted me through e-mail...he insists he's the real deal and if anyone wants to conact him frmail me for his addy...


274 posted on 07/26/2005 9:54:55 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Home of the free, because of the Brave)
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To: Howlin

Howlin, please add me to your ping list.
Thank you.


275 posted on 07/26/2005 9:58:32 AM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: STARWISE

Done.


276 posted on 07/26/2005 9:58:35 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: pbrown

The thing is, I hate tinfoil. :-)

But I'm looking around for some.


277 posted on 07/26/2005 9:59:28 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: pbrown

Want to be really scared?

Read ALL of this, sources and all.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1448614/posts?page=40#40


279 posted on 07/26/2005 10:00:40 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: STARWISE

That's a good idea. But clicking on the CIA Leak thing at the top of the FR front page is really handy.

CIALEAK as a keyword really narrows the material down. You probably already know this.


280 posted on 07/26/2005 10:00:49 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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