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Tancredo won't back down
The Denver Post ^ | 7/19/2005 | Mike Soraghan and Anne C. Mulkern

Posted on 07/23/2005 9:39:48 AM PDT by neverdem

No apology for discussing retaliation on Muslim holy sites

Washington - Rep. Tom Tancredo refused Monday to back down from his statement Friday suggesting that the United States might respond to a radical Islamic terrorist attack by bombing Muslim holy sites.

Muslim groups earlier Monday called on Tancredo to apologize and said they want to meet with the Colorado Republican.

"I'm not suggesting we do it. I have nothing to apologize for in that respect," Tancredo said. "I'm simply saying to have a good discussion on this issue, a thorough discussion on what is perhaps the most serious kind of possible situation we could face as a civilization, that you cannot simply take things off the table because they are uncomfortable to talk about."

Tancredo, a Littleton Republican, made the statement about bombing Muslim holy sites, including the Saudi Arabian city of Mecca, on a Florida talk-radio show.

Besieged by reporters for the first time Monday as he unveiled an anti-amnesty immigration bill, Tancredo said the terrorism issue was a very tough one to deal with and that "tough things were said." He said he stood by his remarks.

The reference to bombing holy sites, he said, came up in a discussion about possible ways the U.S. could respond to nuclear strikes against its cities by terrorists.

"I simply throw that out there as something to think about, although it is horrendous to think about, I understand that," Tancredo said. "So is having one or more cities destroyed in the United States. And that's all I did."

Muslim leaders disagreed.

"When he makes such a statement he should have the courage to go back and apologize," said Rafaat Ludin, president of the Colorado Muslim Society, an organization that includes a mosque and represents 15,000 Muslims in the Denver area. "He is trying to provoke these terrorists who are making our lives miserable, here and across the world. How can you in your right mind call for something like that?"

Ibrahim Hooper, spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations in Washington, said, "People outside the United States will take this as representative of the United States. It makes the war on terror that much harder."

Asked Monday whether he was concerned about inflaming terrorists, Tancredo said, "You've got people telling us that they're going to bomb our cities and kill however many millions of people that they can. You're telling me there's something more hostile than that?"

Tancredo made the comments Friday in a conversation with talk-radio host Pat Campbell at WFLA in Orlando, Fla. They were discussing an article on the conservative Internet site WorldNetDaily that said Islamic terrorists have brought nuclear devices across the Mexican border, preparing for an attack on the interior U.S.

Asked how the United States might respond to such an attack, Tancredo said, "You could take out their holy sites."

Campbell said, "You're talking about bombing Mecca." Tancredo replied, "Yeah."

Tancredo is a member of the House International Relations Committee.

A fervent opponent of illegal immigration, he has begun an insurgent bid for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination that he says is designed to force a more serious candidate to take a hard-line stance on immigration.

Tancredo said he was not worried about the comments hurting his chance at the presidency.

"I'm not going to couch my words based upon some bizarre hope of, you know, running for president," he said.

Rafaat and Ludin said Colorado Muslims are seeking a meeting with Tancredo to discuss his comments. Tancredo spokesman Will Adams said he was not familiar with the request.

Staff writer Mike Soraghan can be reached at 202-662-8730 or msoraghan@denverpost.com.

Staff writer Anne C. Mulkern can be reached at 202-662-8907 or amulkern@denverpost.com.

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The following is a transcript of a portion of U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo's conversation with talk-radio host Pat Campbell on Friday:

Campbell: Worst-case scenario - if they do have these nukes inside the borders and they were to use something like that, what would our response be?

Tancredo: What would be the response? (pause) Um, you know, there are things you could threaten to do before something like that happens and you may have to do afterwards (unintelligible) draconian.

Campbell: Such as?

Tancredo: Well, what if you said something like, "If this happens in the United States and we determine that it is the result of extremist, fundamentalist Muslims." You could take out their holy sites.

Campbell: You're talking about bombing Mecca?

Tancredo: Yeah. What if you said, "We recognize this is the ultimate threat to the United States, so this is the ultimate response." I'm just throwing out some ideas because you would be talking about taking the most draconian measures you could possibly imagine. Because other than that, all you could do is, once again, tighten up internally.


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1 posted on 07/23/2005 9:39:48 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Other then speaking about "tightening up internally" or "fortifying the borders" or "Arresting illegals" what actual specifics does Tancrado call for to

"take a hard-line stance on immigration." ?


I am not interested in the usual sloganeering and cheer-leading of the pro-Tancradeo battalion. I don't want to hear the mindless nonsense about "fortifying our borders", what I want is some real solid specific ideas on what Tancradeo and his crowd think is the solution to illegal immigration
2 posted on 07/23/2005 9:46:24 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Iraq is a Terrorist bug hotel, Terrorists go in, they do not come out.)
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To: neverdem

Why does this have to be a story? We have other things we'd rather be talking about, like a Supreme Court justice to confirm and an energy bill to pass.


3 posted on 07/23/2005 9:46:58 AM PDT by DuckFan4ever (Closing in on a permanent GOP majority. Don't blow it Tom Tancredo.)
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To: neverdem

The muslim "leaders" whining need to STF up. If 9/11 had happened any time prior to the 1960's, Mecca and Medina would already be glass parking lots. Americans have been about as patient as it gets. One of these days, we may not be so patient. Americans will only take it in the shorts so often until they get ugly.


4 posted on 07/23/2005 9:47:06 AM PDT by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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To: neverdem
You CAIR and the Dhimmicrats are in good company. http://www.cair-net.org/default.asp?Page=articleView&id=37225&theType=NB


5 posted on 07/23/2005 9:47:59 AM PDT by axes_of_weezles (mainstream extremist (Ha))
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To: neverdem

Good. I like a man who doesn't toss his principles overboard at the first sign of adversity. After all, the president himself has said that nothing is off the table.


6 posted on 07/23/2005 9:50:04 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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To: neverdem
"I have nothing to apologize for in that respect," Tancredo said

No. You don't. Nor should you.

Tom is an embarrassment to the GOP only because he has balls and this points out the fact that the GOP rarely uses theirs.

7 posted on 07/23/2005 9:51:55 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: neverdem; CHARLITE; SJackson; tiamat
"When he makes such a statement he should have the courage to go back and apologize," said Rafaat Ludin, president of the Colorado Muslim Society, an organization that includes a mosque and represents 15,000 Muslims in the Denver area. "He is trying to provoke these terrorists who are making our lives miserable, here and across the world. How can you in your right mind call for something like that?"

interesting.

Tancredo should have the "courage" to retreat when he comes under fire?
Why do I get the niggling suspicion that the "terrorists" to whom Rafaat Ludin refers are none other than the nations of the West?

8 posted on 07/23/2005 9:53:10 AM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: Dead Corpse

well stated.


9 posted on 07/23/2005 9:53:55 AM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: King Prout

Needed to be said before the Flying Monkeys show up to sh*t all over yet another thread.


10 posted on 07/23/2005 9:54:34 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: neverdem
http://www.pollingreport.com/immigration.htm

Those of the Hard Right who claim that "Super Majorities" support for their views need to read the above link. This is an issue that has to be fought and won just like any other issue. The Right cannot win on this issue right now because it's spokespeople come across as fringe wackos head jobs. If you are serious about this issue, here is what needs to be done. You need to present, non emotionally, some serious thoughtful ideas on how to solve the problem of illegal immigration. The current vision being offered by the Hard Right of rounding up and deporting all the illegals and putting the US Military on a fortified border is NEVER going to happen. As you can see, the bulk of voters do not support that extremist a solution. So what the Anti-immigration crowd needs to do is present so solid, workable ideas rather then foaming at the mouth anytime anyone points out how fundamentally unworkable their current ideas are.
11 posted on 07/23/2005 9:55:27 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Iraq is a Terrorist bug hotel, Terrorists go in, they do not come out.)
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To: Dead Corpse

eh? you mean our resident equivocators and apologists for the death cult?


12 posted on 07/23/2005 9:58:59 AM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: King Prout

Now now, Yer Majesty!

We don't call that a "Retreat" it's an "Advance To The Rear"!

And you have that niggling suspicion because you are RIGHT.

But you knew that!

:-D


13 posted on 07/23/2005 9:59:04 AM PDT by tiamat ("Drink your drink, Laddie, and never mind the Klingon!")
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To: Dead Corpse
Needed to be said before the Flying Monkeys show up to sh*t all over yet another thread.

Yep. I believe they ping each other when this subject comes around. They should be appearing at any time now.

14 posted on 07/23/2005 9:59:05 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: DuckFan4ever
Why does this have to be a story?

The MSM is pushing it. See the increase in Tancredo and Savage stories. It's all MSM driven. It's all Hillary driven. It's the dumbing down of conservatism.

Hillary during the last election had to cool her heels waiting for the right time. So, these upstarts, both Tancredo and Savage had to cool their heels during the last election, actually endorsing Bush.

But now it's Hillary time and Savage and Tancredo are both out saying things that enough people feel. Never mind that what they are saying crosses a fine line of what will slowly resolve our problems and what will actually put us completely in the Reign of Hillary.

15 posted on 07/23/2005 9:59:05 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: neverdem

So he said that, so what. The people who don't like him either benefit from illegal immigration (country club republicans aka traitors) or idiots, nuts, Democrats or other assorted freaks.


16 posted on 07/23/2005 10:00:31 AM PDT by RATkiller (I'm not communist, socialist, Democrat nor Republican so don't call me names)
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To: King Prout
Who are never in short supply (much like at DU, unfortunately)...
17 posted on 07/23/2005 10:00:54 AM PDT by MarineDad (Whenever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits.)
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To: tiamat

it is really getting quite easy to read between the lines of these pro-islamic ready-for-primetime flatulent emissions


18 posted on 07/23/2005 10:02:58 AM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Dont be such a dhimmi dumbass.

Wait till the bombers hit LA, or NY. Then wait to control borders, we cant offend anyone while they are killing us.

Get bent.

If anything happens prior to '06, see who controls the house.
Security first, political correctness last.

I have plenty of Lard for the Muslims.


19 posted on 07/23/2005 10:03:40 AM PDT by axes_of_weezles (mainstream extremist (Ha))
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To: MarineDad
I support Tancredo 100%.

Tancredo simply has the guts to say what many of us feel and are too afraid to say.

PC run amok is killing this country and the war on terror.
20 posted on 07/23/2005 10:04:25 AM PDT by Texas_Conservative2
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