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To: neverdem
Other then speaking about "tightening up internally" or "fortifying the borders" or "Arresting illegals" what actual specifics does Tancrado call for to

"take a hard-line stance on immigration." ?


I am not interested in the usual sloganeering and cheer-leading of the pro-Tancradeo battalion. I don't want to hear the mindless nonsense about "fortifying our borders", what I want is some real solid specific ideas on what Tancradeo and his crowd think is the solution to illegal immigration
2 posted on 07/23/2005 9:46:24 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Iraq is a Terrorist bug hotel, Terrorists go in, they do not come out.)
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To: MNJohnnie

give me a break. his "lip service is ten times more than any other official has the nads to state.
at least he is willing to lay it out on the table unlike most RINOs.
by the way. only hit mecca and or madina when the camel humpers are making their hadj.
if i lived in his state he would get my vote on that statement alone.
enough is enough. the "moderate" muslims want us dead just as much as the radicals.
no mercy no quarter. complete victory for free society is the only answer.


24 posted on 07/23/2005 10:09:35 AM PDT by 537cant be wrong (vampires stole my lunch money but left me with my bus pass. damn!)
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To: MNJohnnie

I have some suggestions about concrete ideas. First, you deploy the national guard to guard our nation at the borders. Next you give any individual or company 30 days to deport (at their expense) any illegal alien under their employ. If they don't the owner/CEO/President will pay $1million fine and 25 years in jail for harboring. At the same time you turn to the fine citizen of the U.S for a little help. Pay them $200.00 for each illegal alien they identify and turn in. We would clean up our country in a matter of months. All of the money you save by not supporting the illegals could go towards tripling our efforts to streamline our LEGAL immigration efforts.

Just a few thoughts that may work...


34 posted on 07/23/2005 10:21:00 AM PDT by MichiganCheese (A crucifix in urine is art & the 10 commandments in a courrthouse is a crime. What country is this?)
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To: MNJohnnie
I don't know that this is what TT says, but I would support the following:

1) Actively encourage all border patrol to work with the Minutemen; issue statements supporting the efforts of the MM and ANY other citizens who want to help.

2) Find ways to increase communication/liason with the MM, so that if someone spots and illegal, a BP agent can get there quickly.

3) REQUIRE all public entities---schools, hospitals, whoever, to report the presence of an illegal at the soonest possible opportunity. For a hospital, that means the minute you get done in the emergency room or whatever. For a teacher, it means that day.

4) Require all state drivers license bureaurs to deny licenses to ANYONE who cannot produce a valid birth certificate or social security card.

5) Triple the number of border patrol agents.

6) Make knowingly hiring an illegal a felony subject to prison time. Make any third offense of hiring an illegal, knowingly or not, prison time.

7) Increase federal aid to states based on their efficiency and performance in sending illegals back. States doing a good job should be rewarded.

That's just a start. Need more?

59 posted on 07/23/2005 11:14:12 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: MNJohnnie
I am not interested in the usual sloganeering and cheer-leading of the pro-Tancradeo battalion. I don't want to hear the mindless nonsense about "fortifying our borders", what I want is some real solid specific ideas on what Tancradeo and his crowd think is the solution to illegal immigration.

I'm not a Tancredo supporter but as far as illegal immigration is concerned, cut illegal aliens off from ALL taxpayer funded benefits and crack down hard on companies that hire illegal aliens. With no jobs or taxpayer freebies available to them, illegal aliens will begin to "deport" themselves. If we have a need for additional workers, we can let in more legal immigrants. Also, no more amnesties foe illegal aliens.

87 posted on 07/23/2005 12:33:26 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: MNJohnnie

I like to give you some specifics, but apparently I'm one of the "full of mindless nonsense" folks. We are grateful to you intellectuals for coming along and setting us straight. When you're up to your a$# in terrorists, give us a call, we might bail you out.


111 posted on 07/23/2005 4:56:31 PM PDT by bigsigh
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To: MNJohnnie
MNJohnnie...

Nothing personal, but the last time a cockroach went by and waved his tiny fists at me demanding stuff, he ended up making a nice crunching sound.

Who gives a rat's elbow what you want or don't want?

112 posted on 07/23/2005 4:58:05 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Why do you hate the guy so much when you dont seem to know anything about him? I dont know much about him but even I know hes introduced immigration reform legislation that is to the right of kyl/cornyn. Is that specific enough?


114 posted on 07/23/2005 5:07:24 PM PDT by mthom
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