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Ebonics suggested for district
San Bernardino County Sun ^ | 17 July 2005 | Irma Lemus

Posted on 07/18/2005 10:25:14 AM PDT by 45Auto

Incorporating Ebonics into a new school policy that targets black students, the lowest-achieving group in the San Bernardino City Unified School District, may provide students a more well-rounded curriculum, said a local sociologist.

The goal of the district's policy is to improve black students' academic performance by keeping them interested in school. Compared with other racial groups in the district, black students go to college the least and have the most dropouts and suspensions.

Blacks make up the second largest racial group in the district, trailing Latinos.

A pilot of the policy, known as the Students Accumulating New Knowledge Optimizing Future Accomplishment Initiative, has been implemented at two city schools.

Mary Texeira, a sociology professor at Cal State San Bernardino, commended the San Bernardino Board of Education for approving the policy in June.

Texeira suggested that including Ebonics in the program would be beneficial for students. Ebonics, a dialect of American English that is spoken by many blacks throughout the country, was recognized as a separate language in 1996 by the Oakland school board.

"Ebonics is a different language, it's not slang as many believe,' Texeira said. "For many of these students Ebonics is their language, and it should be considered a foreign language. These students should be taught like other students who speak a foreign language.'

Texeira said research has shown that students learn better when they fully comprehend the language they are being taught in.

"There are African Americans who do not agree with me. They say that (black students) are lazy and that they need to learn to talk,' Texeira said.

Len Cooper, who is coordinating the pilot program at the two city schools, said San Bernardino district officials do not plan to incorporate Ebonics into the program.

"Because Ebonics can have a negative stigma, we're not focusing on that,' Cooper said. "We are affirming and recognizing Ebonics through supplemental reading books (for students).'

Beginning in the 2005-06 school year, teachers will receive training on black culture and customs. District curriculum will now include information on the historical, cultural and social impact of blacks in society. Although the program is aimed at black students, other students can choose to participate.

The pilot program at Rio Vista Elementary and King Middle schools focuses on second-, fourth- and seventh-grade classes. District officials hope to train teachers from other schools using the program as a model.

Board member Danny Tillman, who pushed for the policy, said that full implementation of the program at all schools may take years, but the pilot program is a beginning.

"At every step we will see positive results,' Tillman said.

Tillman hoped the new policy would increase the number of black students going to college and participating in advanced courses.

Teresa Parra, board vice president, said she worried the new program would have an adverse effect.

"I'm afraid that now that we have this the Hispanic community, our largest population, will say, 'We want something for us.' Next we'll have the Asian community and the Jewish community (asking for their own programs). When will it end?'

Parra said the district should focus on helping all students who are at risk.

"I've always thought that we should provide students support based on their needs and not on their race,' Parra said.

Tillman disagreed with Parra, saying programs that help Latinos already exist in the district. He cited the district's English- as-a-second-language program.

Texeira urged people not be quick to judge the new program as socially exclusive. She said people need to be open to the program.

"Everybody has prejudices, but we must all learn to control that behavior,' Texeira said. She said a child's self confidence is tied to his or her cultural identity.

She compared the low performance of black students to starvation. "How can you be angry when you feed a family of starving children?'

Ratibu Jacocks, a member of the Westside Action Group, a coalition of black activists, said they are working with the district to ensure the policy is implemented appropriately.

"This isn't a feel-good policy. This is the real thing,' Jacocks said.

Jacocks said he didn't believe the new policy would create animosity. He said he welcomed the idea of other ethnic groups pushing for their own programs.

"When you are doing what's right, others will follow,' Jacocks said. "We have led the way before the civil-rights movement opened the door for women's rights and other movements.'


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To: msnimje

no no no.. boiling water is hot.. someone would definitely sue the school district over that. instead, maybe if they can drink water through a straw? thats pretty tough right?


381 posted on 07/18/2005 10:50:17 PM PDT by wafflehouse (the hell you say!)
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To: Taxman
"This is America and we speak English here!"

You don't know how many times a day I have to stop myself from screaming that in someone's face. I should get a medal.

382 posted on 07/18/2005 11:28:36 PM PDT by radiohead (Proud member of the 'arrogant supermagt')
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To: 45Auto
Jiveman2 : Mnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Attndnt : Can I get you something?
Jiveman2 : S'mo fo butter layin' to the bone. Jackin' me up.
	  Tightly.
Attndnt : I'm sorry I don't understand.
Jiveman1 : Cutty say he cant hang.
Woman4  : Oh stewardess, I speak jive.
Attndnt : Ohhhh, good.
Woman4  : He said that he's in great pain and he wants to know
	  if you can help him.
Attndnt : Would you tell him to just relax and I'll be back as
	  soon as I can with some medicine.
Woman4   : Jus' hang loose blooood.  She goonna catch up on the`
	  rebound a de medcide.
Jiveman2 : What it is big mamma, my mamma didn't raise no dummy, I
	  dug her rap.
Woman4  : Cut me som' slac' jak!  Chump don wan no help, chump 
	  don git no help.  Jive ass dude don got no brains
	  anyhow.

383 posted on 07/18/2005 11:37:25 PM PDT by Redcloak (We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singin' "whiskey for my men and beer for my horses!")
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To: COBOL2Java

Great minds tagline alike. Cool.


384 posted on 07/18/2005 11:42:20 PM PDT by torchthemummy (Col. Beckwith: Many Democrats are not weak Americans. But nearly all weak Americans are Democrats.)
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To: Yaelle

THe Swiss-German to which you refer is called "schwaebish" or "Schwope-Deutsche". The propper or High German to which you refer is "Hoch-Deutsche".

My grandfather (Opa) was from Northern Germany (Hannover) and my grandmother (Oma) was from souther Germany (Stuttgart). Opa mercilessly pesterd Oma about her Schwaebish constantly.

Yes. They are decidedly different.


385 posted on 07/19/2005 3:55:24 AM PDT by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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To: kalee

self ping for later reading


386 posted on 07/19/2005 4:12:30 AM PDT by kalee
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To: radiohead

Persist! Persist! Persist!

Above all else, persist!


387 posted on 07/19/2005 4:31:27 AM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: sweetliberty

Scary, but possible.


388 posted on 07/19/2005 5:15:38 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: ABN 505

but only public schools...in ritzy private schools this crap does not exist...even for the black kids who attend these ritzy schools......


389 posted on 07/19/2005 5:52:31 AM PDT by fishbabe
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To: cicero's_son

I despise the libs but they are not to blame for this mess...If black leaders condemned this crap it would vanish!!!!!!The reason it lives on is because and only because black leaders want it to...[for money,power,you name it]


390 posted on 07/19/2005 5:57:07 AM PDT by fishbabe
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To: 45Auto
"Incorporating Ebonics into a new school policy that targets black students, the lowest-achieving group in the San Bernardino City Unified School District, may provide students a more well-rounded curriculum,"

WHAT???? I do not believe this

"said a local sociologist."

Oh OK now I do believe it a sociologist (read liberal)

392 posted on 07/19/2005 6:16:09 AM PDT by Kelly_2000 (Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: TAquinas; hispanarepublicana
I believe they can succeed if trained properly.

*GASP!* He speaks. Can you believe it? I figured he'd just ignore me since I'm not from the demographics of the Founding Fathers.


393 posted on 07/19/2005 6:18:25 AM PDT by rdb3 (What you want? Morning sickness or sickness from mourning? --Nick Cannon)
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To: 45Auto
Being that these kids will grow up in a global world dominated by hi-tech and competing againt grads from India and China, besides other Americans, "Incorporating Ebonics into a new school policy that targets black students" is not going to help these kids. The graduates from India and China don't give a damn about Eubonics, and computer programs certainly do not use Eubonics as a programming language.

Of course, the school system and the RATs and many black "leaders" have done practically nothing to help thse kids in 40 years. But, they are good at putting shackles and chains on these kids and putting up barriers to their success. To call these poeple morons is an understatement of galactic proportions.

394 posted on 07/19/2005 6:33:31 AM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (The Republican'ts have no spine--they ALWAYS cave-in to the RATs.)
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To: kingu
...wacko liberal freaks.

My theory: Today's Californian, and especially San Franciscans, are descendents of the original Spanish Conquistadors, Colonial Spanish prisoners, pirates, Miner 49'ers and every "get rich quick" schemer, prostitute, and con man that followed them. Again, in the early 20th century, every star-struck Hollywood wannabe from across the nation flocked to the southern portion of the state. Again, in the Great Depression and Dust bowl days brought the down and out from the rest of the country. The result is what we have today. A gene pool of slop and sludge of human debris........and before you get offended at my words, I was born in San Diego...............

395 posted on 07/19/2005 6:40:11 AM PDT by Red Badger (HURRICANES: God's way of telling you it's time to clean out the freezer...............)
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To: rdb3

I see where he posted his white supremacist crap (cloaked in pseudo-intellectual wording and probably copied and pasted from one of the more well-read at Stormfront, no doubt).


396 posted on 07/19/2005 6:55:22 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (There will be no bad talk or loud talk in this place. CB Stubblefield.)
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To: cvq3842

You would think whoever would propose this idea would be sent packing. It further dooms these kids to a life of poverty, ignorance, and hopelessness.


397 posted on 07/19/2005 8:40:10 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: 45Auto
Now wait one cotton picken minute boy, what is da problem here? You aint from around these here parts, is you? I tell you what, you don know a dang thang bout other cultures. RedNeckOnics is a seprit language an aint et bout time you all recognize et as such? Dis will free up folks from Maryland down to Floreeda, except dem Texans, they're not really of the ole South.

And what about dem New Yorkers? No one in their right mind understands a dang thang that is a common outa their mouths. Yankonics, that'll solve thangs.

398 posted on 07/19/2005 9:08:47 AM PDT by jb6 ( Free Haghai Sophia! Crusade!)
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To: radiohead

On his radio show, Larry Elder has spoken about the LA Public Library. Outside the library are hispanics and black kids doing fancy maneuvering on their skateboards or just hanging out, while inside the library, at every table, is an asian child or family studying.


399 posted on 07/19/2005 9:10:45 AM PDT by merry10
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To: Texas Songwriter

Awful.


400 posted on 07/19/2005 9:20:17 AM PDT by cvq3842
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