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An atomic attack on Fortress America by pious men with beards isn't a matter of if but when.
LA Times via Houston Chronicle ^ | July 16, 2005, 8:24PM | PERVEZ HOODBHOY

Posted on 07/18/2005 6:15:01 AM PDT by Gengis Khan

Edited on 07/18/2005 6:47:57 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

ONE wonders what Osama bin Laden and his ilk learned from Hiroshima.

The decision to incinerate the Japanese city and another, Nagasaki, was not taken in anger. White men in gray business suits and military uniforms, after much deliberation, decided that the United States could not give the Japanese any warning, that although it could not concentrate on a civilian area, it should seek to make a profound psychological impression on as many inhabitants as possible. They argued that it would be cheaper in American lives to release the nuclear genie.


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1 posted on 07/18/2005 6:15:04 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Gengis Khan
I know this:

The Iranians must not be allowed to produce nuclear weapons!

Whether it's us or the Israelis or whomever, they must be stopped.

2 posted on 07/18/2005 6:19:32 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Gengis Khan

First off, I don't think that getting or making a nuke has gotten enough simpler to bring one into the US undetected. Of course, maybe I'm just out of the loop and there are nukes that fit into an IPOD that won't give off enough rad to kill and wilt ever living thing within sight.


3 posted on 07/18/2005 6:22:58 AM PDT by Ajnin (I)
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To: Rummyfan

Fools. They can damage us. We can utterly obliterate them. They will go the way of Carthage.

" I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve...

Adm Yamamoto


4 posted on 07/18/2005 6:23:53 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Gengis Khan

If they bomb those cities on the list they will wipe out the elitist, globalist numbskulls who keep us vulnerable, with open borders and PC idiocy.

The rest of us would be then be free to eradicate them.
I support their plan.

Losing the CFR would be a small sacrifice.


5 posted on 07/18/2005 6:24:19 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google search North American Community.)
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To: Gengis Khan

If they ever did nuke a US city, are grandchildren will someday ask, "Gandpa, what WAS a Muslim?"


6 posted on 07/18/2005 6:26:10 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: Ajnin

Hey Ajnin, you think you're so smart. Don't you know that Bush created terrorist's that are using MS-13 guys to smuggle nukes into the country? And nobody can detect them because, ...well because it's all Bush's fault?


7 posted on 07/18/2005 6:27:22 AM PDT by Ajnin (I)
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To: Rummyfan

The Men in Beard wont be using Iranian nukes anyway, they will be using Paki nukes. Those are the ones you should be wary of.


8 posted on 07/18/2005 6:28:15 AM PDT by Gengis Khan (Since light travels faster than sound, people appear bright until u hear them speak.)
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To: Ajnin

This crappy nuke story is starting to ticking me off like a Dick Durbin Story.


9 posted on 07/18/2005 6:30:19 AM PDT by Ajnin (I)
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To: Tulane
Nope. Maybe 20 million out of 1.2 BILLION Muslims support the terrorists and radical Islam. The rest are supremely indifferent or even on our side. Even if we get nuked, we ain't nukin' nobody unless we can "absolutely, for certain" identify a state sponsor, at which point we MIGHT retaliate appropriately.
For certain we won't be nukin' Mecca and Medina.

Its a pity, actually. They don't really care what we do to them, and have little to fear in the way of retaliation. That's one reason we're likely to get nuked.
10 posted on 07/18/2005 6:37:25 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Gengis Khan

"...The decision to incinerate the Japanese city and another, Nagasaki, was not taken in anger. White men in gray business suits and military uniforms, after much deliberation, decided that the United States could not give the Japanese any warning, that although it could not concentrate on a civilian area, it should seek to make a profound psychological impression on as many inhabitants as possible."

The above is a great example of a very poor sentence. The guy's prose proves he is no English teacher. But he seems to be trying to say that Americans were cold-hearted in fighting the Japanese. The facts are that the decision was made in a total war context and the Japanese started the total war and the Japanese fire-bombed civilian areas too. By bringing foreward such a quantum leap in technology, the atomic bomb gave the Japanese something of an "out" from their mindset against the dishonor of surrender.


11 posted on 07/18/2005 6:41:36 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (Where is our Charles Martel? Who will be our hammer against Islam?)
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To: Gengis Khan
"This article originally appeared in the Los Angeles Times"

Which therefore holds the copyright and therefore publication in toto here is a violation of FR Rules.

--Boris

12 posted on 07/18/2005 6:45:15 AM PDT by boris (The deadliest weapon of mass destruction in history is a leftist with a word processor.)
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To: Little Ray
"...For certain we won't be nukin' Mecca and Medina..."

Don't bet on it. The weenie State Department mentality will be out after a truly massive USA death toll. Mecca has to be on the table. Two of the five pillars of Islam are linked to Mecca and they do care.
13 posted on 07/18/2005 6:45:40 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (Where is our Charles Martel? Who will be our hammer against Islam?)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
If they bomb those cities on the list they will wipe out the elitist, globalist numbskulls who keep us vulnerable, with open borders and PC idiocy.

The rest of us would be then be free to eradicate them. I support their plan.

Losing the CFR would be a small sacrifice.

Just heard from my wife that the young woman who designed her company's web sites is now confirmed as killed in the London bombings.

Then looked up at the screen and saw that - never though I'd see the day when someone here was supporting plans to use nuclear weapons against his own country - to me, that seems even sicker than the London bombers.

14 posted on 07/18/2005 6:48:19 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas (More of the same, only with more zeros on the end.)
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To: Little Ray
Little Ray writes:
Maybe 20 million out of 1.2 BILLION Muslims support the terrorists and radical Islam. The rest are supremely indifferent or even on our side.

I'd like to believe this - but I don't.

- John

15 posted on 07/18/2005 6:48:34 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

The people I'm talking about are far more a threat than a bunch of diaper heads.


16 posted on 07/18/2005 6:50:41 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google search North American Community.)
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To: Little Ray
"Even if we get nuked, we ain't nukin' nobody unless we can "absolutely, for certain" identify a state sponsor, at which point we MIGHT retaliate appropriately."

- In my opinion, the US should quietly use diplomatic back channels right now to tell the leaders of both Iran and North Korea that should a US city be nuked by anyone that, within 24 hours, every major city in their countries will be radioactive ash - proof or no proof, they will be assumed guilty of the attack or providing the weapons for the attack.
17 posted on 07/18/2005 6:55:08 AM PDT by finnigan2
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To: Fishrrman

I'm quoting the Strategy Page, and it seems about right. They seem to think there are about twenty million supporters and a few hundred thousand terrorists and wannabes. I think they are probably about right. Remember, the vast majority are indifferent, which gives the terrorists and their supporters plenty of room to hide. The folks who ARE on our side have to deal with the indifferent who get outraged that they are prosecuting their (terrorist) co-religionists on behalf of infidels.


18 posted on 07/18/2005 6:57:00 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Gengis Khan
the United States could not give the Japanese any warning, that although it could not concentrate on a civilian area, it should seek to make a profound psychological impression on as many inhabitants as possible.

Last time I checked, the Japenese weren't sitting on a stockpile of thousands of nuclear warheads in 1945.
19 posted on 07/18/2005 6:57:11 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: Gengis Khan

I like how the excerpt of the article equates the American decision makers of 1945 with the Muslim terrorists of today. Very nice moral relativism there, very nice.


20 posted on 07/18/2005 6:58:58 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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