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Pataki Will Test '08 Winds in Iowa
The New York Times ^ | July 15, 2005 | By ADAM NAGOURNEY

Posted on 07/14/2005 11:02:51 PM PDT by alessandrofiaschi

Gov. George E. Pataki of New York is headed to Iowa this weekend for what associates described on Thursday as an exploration of whether he should run for president in 2008, reflecting what they called an increased likelihood that he would forgo a bid for a fourth term next year and turn to the national stage.

Gov. George E. Pataki could grab the votes of G.O.P. moderates. Mr. Pataki's associates said he viewed the trip - as part of a visit by him to a National Governors' Association meeting, taking place in a state that begins the presidential selection process with its winter caucuses - as a test of whether a moderate Republican from New York has a real chance of winning his party's presidential nomination.

If he ran, Mr. Pataki, who supports abortion rights and gun control, would most likely be the most moderate candidate in the Republican field, and would face significant hurdles with a Republican primary electorate that has become increasingly conservative, particularly in states like Iowa.

His associates, who said they would discuss Mr. Pataki's plans only anonymously in deference to his wishes, said that should he seek the presidency, he would not run for re-election as governor, in the belief it would be impossible to run for president while still running New York State.

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His schedule includes an appearance at a private fund-raising luncheon by the Iowa Republican Party, which is expected to raise $100,000 for the party; a visit to a Little League game; and even the Saturday morning farmer's market in Des Moines.

"We might do a country fair - I just love those," said Mr. Pataki, who grew up in Peekskill, a northern Westchester suburb. "If we're going to be out there and there's one nearby, I want to do one."

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Iowa; US: Massachusetts; US: New Mexico; US: New York
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A Rino for President? Uhmmmmmmmmm...........

Please, read the whole article.

1 posted on 07/14/2005 11:02:54 PM PDT by alessandrofiaschi
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To: alessandrofiaschi

Posted already

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1443289/posts


2 posted on 07/14/2005 11:05:14 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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He should have the integrity to run as a Democrat, if he is going to run.


3 posted on 07/14/2005 11:08:32 PM PDT by Sun (Call the U.S. SELL-OUT senators toll-free, 1-877-762-8762 & give 'em "heck.")
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To: alessandrofiaschi
If he ran, Mr. Pataki, who supports abortion rights and gun control, would most likely be the most moderate candidate in the Republican field, and would face significant hurdles with a Republican primary electorate that has become increasingly conservative, particularly in states like Iowa.

Ohh... so your a moderate if you think like a dem... I see... I never knew Abortion was a RIGHT... What Amendment is that?

4 posted on 07/14/2005 11:08:43 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: alessandrofiaschi

Sorry but he is to liber... er moderate for my blood.


5 posted on 07/14/2005 11:10:00 PM PDT by no dems (43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, 2 to pull a trigger: I'm lazy and tired of smiling,)
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To: no dems

Another pol with a gigantic ego who betrayed his original base.


6 posted on 07/14/2005 11:14:29 PM PDT by nygoose
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To: alessandrofiaschi

Has about as much of a chance of getting the nomination as Lincoln Chafee.


7 posted on 07/14/2005 11:19:39 PM PDT by rmmcdaniell
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To: rmmcdaniell

LOL!


8 posted on 07/14/2005 11:22:51 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: alessandrofiaschi

Your forgot a RINO who is allowing a monument to be built in Osama Bin Ladin's honor at Groud Zero.


9 posted on 07/14/2005 11:22:55 PM PDT by rwilson99 (South Park (R)
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To: alessandrofiaschi

No.


10 posted on 07/14/2005 11:32:29 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: no dems

"Sorry but he is to liber... er moderate for my blood."

Well said. Did you notice that the only people mentioned in the article as campaigning in Iowa are Pataki's fellow 'moderates' of both parties? No freakin' way will a 'moderate' get the GOP nod--and I bet the GOP base won't tolerate a 'moderate' VP either.


11 posted on 07/14/2005 11:32:53 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ("Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist." -- John Adams. "F that." -- SCOTUS, in Kelo.)
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...."could grab the votes of G.O.P. moderates.".....

All 12 of them!

12 posted on 07/14/2005 11:35:52 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: alessandrofiaschi
Yes, the country needs an economy like New York's... HA!
13 posted on 07/14/2005 11:42:44 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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Going with the notion that the MSM isn't just writing this to puff their liberal buddy Pataki (they are), let's consider who would be those 'GOP moderates,' exactly. Romney and Giuliani fans? I doubt it.

No, I think their assumption is somehow that most GOP-leaning libertarians, a block which they consider 'moderate' for the GOP because they generally don't care about the social issues so central to the religious Republicans, would vote for a Pataki.

The problem with this is that most GOP-leaning libertarians are strict constructionists and realistic enough to know better than vote Pataki for those ends, they know that Pataki is a free-spending corporate whore who would do nothing to curtail government. I wouldn't vote for a NY Republican running for national office if I had a shotgun to my 'nads and a ballot and pen forced into my hands.

Okay, maybe in that situation I would--but I'd NEVER do it voluntarily. And I think most libertarians on FR would feel the same way. What NY calls Republican, I'd generally call old-guard, fat-cat-pol, RINOs.


14 posted on 07/14/2005 11:49:33 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ("Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist." -- John Adams. "F that." -- SCOTUS, in Kelo.)
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"Pataki Will Test '08 Winds in Iowa"

Pataki's Campaign will be a break of fresh wind...


15 posted on 07/14/2005 11:54:30 PM PDT by Checkers
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To: alessandrofiaschi
His associates, while acknowledging that this would not be easy, argued that Mr. Pataki could slip in if the Republican Party suffered in the 2006 midterm elections because it was perceived as being captive to its right wing, creating an opening for him to argue that a moderate would be the party's strongest candidate.

Mr. Pataki, asked about any problems he might have as a moderate trying to win the party's nomination, asserted that that would be less of a problem than some analysts suggest, particularly in the face of what could be a very intense presidential contest in 2008. But, he said, there was little he could do about moderate stances without which, his aides said, he would not have been elected to three terms as New York governor.

"You don't change your philosophy or tilt your beliefs to suit a particular electorate," he said.

That cuts both ways, Mr. Pataki. Neither will the principled voter, who sees a policy of abortion on demand for any reason at any point for anything other than the holocaust it is, shift his or her beliefs and support a candidate with such a trite view of said holocaust.

16 posted on 07/14/2005 11:59:02 PM PDT by Lexinom (http://www.abort73.com)
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He's a left leaning bum. The guy makes McCain look conservative. Could that be why he's entering the race with the McCain loving NYT promoting him?


17 posted on 07/15/2005 12:01:48 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: no dems

Aptly put, except you left the "quotes" off "moderate".


18 posted on 07/15/2005 12:04:22 AM PDT by Lexinom (http://www.abort73.com)
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To: Sun
Agree! Further, the Guv has about as much charisma as a damp brick.

The Party would never touch this guy! Never.

Strictly an ego trip for Pataki, IMHO. Seems these turkeys have to get this stuff out of their systems before they drift back into the woodwork. (Sort of like me having to buy a rather large sailboat. best day of my life was when I unloaded it on another sailor from Arizona! *S*) But, I had to go through the drill to make my life at the time complete.

Same with these egocentric pols.
19 posted on 07/15/2005 12:05:35 AM PDT by dk/coro
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The only decent thing I have to say about Pataki is that he reminds me of Sandy Becker!
20 posted on 07/15/2005 12:22:25 AM PDT by Solamente
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