Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 7

Various News Sources | 7/14/05

[TexKat]

Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba. AP photo

[GarySpFc]

My mother used to use switches off of the hedge in our backyard. We visited my aunt in Montgomery one week and she had one less bush in her backyard when we left. I can remember my mom chasing me around VULCAN in Birmingham with a switch. I was bad little sh*t.

My mother used to make me pick my own, and she always sent me back for a bigger one. Vulcan? Do you mean she used to chase you up Iron Mountain? I was raised in the Homewood area, and we were in the process of purchasing a home in Mountain Brook when dad was transferred to KC in 55. One of my legs is shorter than the other from climbing all those mountains. :)

[TexKat]

See post #400, a reported black eye Joran shows up at school on May 30th per some students at school.

[GarySpFc]

I wonder where Juran got all the money he seems to have spent and lost at the casinos?

He might pick up a lot of change by selling drugs.

[GarySpFc]

I wouldn't carry a service issued 45 for anything. I an an expert shot, but the service issued 45 is more accurate when thrown at the target. Maybe they were good for knocking down Moros in Pershing's time, but they're too sloppy now.

Glock 23 are excellent weapons.

[doc]

If it is true about Urine's black eye it just reinforces my position that Natalee did not want to "consumate" the relationship. The 6'5" animal then got rough, real rough.

[GarySpFc]

They say 5% of the population are sociopaths. Some function okay in society, but most people have little idea of the evil that lurks in these individuals' hearts.

[Palladin]

The guy that "just drove up" was probably a lazy Aruban cop who was assigned to investigate that spot, but craftily got the Equusearch team to dig it up.

[MonaMars]

"Congratualations, you have bought into the "no body..no crime" mantra."

I said nothing about there being no crime without a body. I'm just not willing to dismiss the slight possibility that someone moved her off the island alive and sold her after the 3 little dirtbags gang-raped her.

[gg188]

Can you post the link to this article? Thanks.

[Pepper777]

" He might pick up a lot of change by selling drugs."

I agree!!

[Goodgirlinred]

My thoughts exactly. I am hoping that she is still alive, even though being sold would be awful. If they can get those dirtbags to talk, maybe they could find her.

How about sending the three of them to Guantanamo?

[af_vet_1981]

"Natalee fell, hit her head on a rock and drowned," the Enquirer quotes its source. "In a drug-and-alcohol induced panic, Joran felt he had no other choice but to dispose of Natalee's body in the sea."

Translation: He threw her into the ocean ?

I still think Croes was involved though.

Drug them and extract the truth from those perps.

Then give them justice.

[Dolphy]

Jug told Hannity that they still think Natalee is alive.

That's interesting. Miller (the search guy) seems convinced that she isn't though, besides the passage of time, I don't think he has any specific evidence to support that conclusion.

[IIntense]

Until a young woman from Alabama "disappeared" while vacationing in Aruba, most Americans knew diddly-squat about the Aruban justice system...or cared. Though I may be off-the-mark, I somehow believe that the attention of the United States media (Greta van Susteren has doggedly sought information) puts pressure on the Aruban police and justice system to keep on this case. If Aruba gets O'Reilly on The Factor, they hear his predictions that Aruba will suffer through a drop-off (or boycott?) of American tourists. Ergo, I am glad the media has adopted the cause of Natalee Holloway and her family, especially her strong but grief-stricken, worn-out mother.

[IIntense]

Seriously, does the U.S. "drug them" for the truth?

[Canadian Outrage]

I'm going to watch Nancy in about 10 minutes from now.!!

[Canadian Outrage]

I never thought of the radio. I do get FOX now but I'll try the radio.

[Big Jake]

I wouldn't carry a service issued 45 for anything. I an an expert shot, but the service issued 45 is more accurate when thrown at the target.

GarySpFC, strap one M67 to your service .45 prior to throwing and accuracy is improved between 20 meters and 40 meters. Method not recommended to improve accuracy under for 15 meters.

BTW, Glock M21.

[cherry]

"How many inhalers might a person need for 5 days? Anyone?"

probably one to use, one for spare.....but you're not supposed to be using it constantly....

four times a day normally, if that.....

[cherry]

doesn't the NE story sound a little like a trial balloon?....

slipping these little tidbits out there so we all start to feel so sorry for poor, poor Jerkin......