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Tokyo Governor Sued for Insulting French
Associated Press ^ | 7/13/05

Posted on 07/13/2005 12:40:59 PM PDT by saquin

TOKYO - A group of teachers and translators in Japan on Wednesday sued Tokyo's outspoken nationalist governor for allegedly calling French a "failed international language," a news report said.

Twenty-one people filed the lawsuit at the Tokyo District Court, demanding that Tokyo Gov. Shintaro Ishihara pay a total of 10.5 million yen ($94,600) compensation for insulting the French language in remarks last October, national broadcaster NHK said.

In their suit, the plaintiffs accused Ishihara of saying: "French is a failed international language because it cannot be used to count numbers."

"It's natural for different languages to have different names for numbers and different ways of counting them, so it's unacceptable for him to insult French in this way," Malik Berkane, who heads a French-language school in Tokyo, told reporters at a news conference.

The Tokyo metropolitan government refused to comment, saying it hadn't received word of the lawsuit.

French is the official language in about three dozen countries and territories worldwide and is one of the official working languages for international organizations such as the United Nations. In French, some numbers can be unwieldy to say, such as 90, which translates as "four-twenty-ten."

Japan's counting system can also be tricky. Adopted from Chinese, the Japanese numeric system ignores the western system of classifying large numbers every three digits. Though one thousand is the same, 30,000 would translate as "three-10,000," 4 million would be "400-10,000" and 4 billion would be "40-100 million."

Counting one pencil or one bottle of beer ("ippon") in Japanese differs from counting one sheet of paper ("ichimai") or one book ("issatsu").

Ishihara, one of Japan's most popular politicians, is known for his blunt nationalist talk, criticism of illegal immigrants and unapologetic view of the Japanese wartime military's atrocities in Asia. His remarks often rile Chinese and Korean residents in Japan.


TOPICS: Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: french
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To: Millee

That could be their national industry.


41 posted on 07/13/2005 1:06:31 PM PDT by weegee (Re: immigration "Those Syrians are coming to Iraq to do the bombings that Iraqis won't do.")
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To: weegee
Sounds like they lost interest after 69 (about the only French number much of the world knows).

Someone in St. John's should make a t-shirt with an 'I'm a soixante-newfy' theme. ;^)

42 posted on 07/13/2005 1:07:25 PM PDT by headsonpikes ("The U.S. Constitution poses no serious threat to our form of government.")
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To: saquin
The benefits are endless if we can foment a really nasty fight between the French and the Japanese.

Pass it on

43 posted on 07/13/2005 1:07:48 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: saquin
Headline:

Tokyo Governor Sued for Insulting French!

What did he do????

Tell the Truth???

44 posted on 07/13/2005 1:08:18 PM PDT by albee (The best thing you can do for the poor is...not be one of them!)
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To: saquin
Tokyo Governor Sued for Insulting French

Unfortunatley, it will take years, if not decades for this suit to be brought to trial.
Gov. Shintaro Ishihara has been given number 4,643,722,101 by the court, so he must wait his turn in line to be sued for insulting the French.
45 posted on 07/13/2005 1:08:45 PM PDT by stylin19a (Suicide bomber ??? "I came to the wrong jihad")
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To: saquin

Nutty.


46 posted on 07/13/2005 1:09:15 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: saquin

All of my correspondence with my Japanese customers is in English and I know for a fact that when they communicate with a French supplier it is also entirely in English. I do have to occasionally translate incoming messages from French or Quebecois customers whose English isn't up to snuff, but that's rare. French hasn't been the "Lingua Franca" for generations and therefore is indeed a "failure", idiot law suit or not.


47 posted on 07/13/2005 1:09:28 PM PDT by katana
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To: saquin
Ishihara was, IIRC, the guy who wrote The Japan Who Can Say No back in the day. Not exactly my idea of Mr. Nice Guy. OTOH, it is the French...
48 posted on 07/13/2005 1:11:45 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: saquin
How rude of him, since French is obviously a wildly successful international language these days.

(Just kidding. Everybody knows English is the world's lingua franca nowadays.)

Imagine, somehow English is now the new French. Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.

49 posted on 07/13/2005 1:15:35 PM PDT by Maceman (The Qur'an is Qu'rap)
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To: Maceman

bttt


50 posted on 07/13/2005 1:16:20 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: saquin
Talk about a missleading headline....

I was going to quip that you could understand it in two ways:
1. The Ministers french was insulting! As if he spoke french abominably.
2. The Minister was insulting the French People.

So it turns out that the Minister was insulting the French language! LOL

You don't even need to make this stuff up!

51 posted on 07/13/2005 1:18:37 PM PDT by BoneHead
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To: weegee

They'd be the #1 world power within a month. :-)


52 posted on 07/13/2005 1:19:29 PM PDT by Millee (So you're a feminist......isn't that cute??)
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To: William Creel
We need an Amercian version of this guy.

You sure about that? The dude is cool with the rape of Nanking.
53 posted on 07/13/2005 1:20:07 PM PDT by BJClinton (The bubble of housing bubble threads is about to pop!)
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To: saquin

It's ridicuous that you can be sued for insulting someone!!!


54 posted on 07/13/2005 1:24:55 PM PDT by clarissaexplainsitall (stewed tomatoes are just plain gross)
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To: saquin
In French, some numbers can be unwieldy to say, such as 90, which translates as "four-twenty-ten."

Actually it gets worse. 91 is quatre-vingt-onze (four ten eleven), but there are two different ways to say ninety-first: nonante et unième or quatre-vingt-onzième.

55 posted on 07/13/2005 1:33:44 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: weegee
GG Liddy has gone to saying 1,000 million instead of a billion so people get a better idea of just how big a number it is.

The word "billion" is ambiguous. Americans think a billion is a thousand million. Brits think a billion is a million million.

SD

56 posted on 07/13/2005 1:46:44 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: saquin
French is the official language in about three dozen countries and territories worldwide

Honest, when I read this I thought it said:
French is the official language in about three dozen countries and terrorists worldwide.

57 posted on 07/13/2005 1:56:38 PM PDT by feedback doctor (If you won't love the least of people, then you can't love any people)
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To: saquin
Is it possible to insult the Frogs, I mean Frenchies?
58 posted on 07/13/2005 1:58:02 PM PDT by zerosix
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To: SoothingDave

Leftists everywhere think billions of dollars in aid still isn't enough.


59 posted on 07/13/2005 1:58:03 PM PDT by weegee (Re: immigration "Those Syrians are coming to Iraq to do the bombings that Iraqis won't do.")
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To: Phantom Lord
And in Quebec, I believe it is illegal to do business in english in any way, shape, or form.

Not quite. The restrictions surround signage, specifically on a bi-lingual (English/French) sign the French lettering must be no less than twice the size of the English (idiotic, but there you go).

What language you actually conduct your business in is your business. A non-French speaker would have no problem doing business in Quebec, with the possible exception of some of the rural and remote areas.

60 posted on 07/13/2005 1:58:54 PM PDT by mitchbert (Facts Are Stubborn Things .)
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