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Muslims Say "Samson" was the first suicide bomber
answering christianity ^ | 07/11/05 | osama abdullah

Posted on 07/11/2005 5:25:23 PM PDT by ElisabethInCincy

The story of the Mighty Samson:

"Self sacrifice" and giving your life away intentionally and taking as many enemy lives with you as possible for the sake of GOD Almighty and your people exists in the Bible. Let us look at the story of the Mighty Samson in the Bible:

"Samson said to the servant who held his hand, "Put me where I can feel the pillars that support the temple, so that I may lean against them." Now the temple was crowded with men and women; all the rulers of the Philistines were there, and on the roof were about three thousand men and women watching Samson perform. Then Samson prayed to the LORD, "O Sovereign LORD , remember me. O God, please strengthen me just once more, and let me with one blow get revenge on the Philistines for my two eyes." Then Samson reached toward the two central pillars on which the temple stood. Bracing himself against them, his right hand on the one and his left hand on the other, Samson said, "Let me die with the Philistines!" Then he pushed with all his might, and down came the temple on the rulers and all the people in it. Thus he killed many more when he died than while he lived. (From the NIV Bible, Judges 16:26-30)"

Note: I called him "Mighty Samson" because he was extremely powerful. He was far much more stronger than all men in his time.

As we clearly see from the Bible, Samson gave his life for his people by killing as much from the enemy as possible.

Samson prayed to GOD to give him back his power (Samson lost his power after the seven braids of his hair were shaven by Delilah and her people while he was sleeping, Judges 16:1-20), and GOD Almighty granted him that revoked power back. Samson then was able to bring the temple down upon him and his enemies.

Question was raised to me: I was asked to show a proof that GOD Almighty approved of Samson's suicide that killed himself and his enemies. Well, GOD Almighty apparently knew what Samson was up to and thus He decided to grant him his revoked power back to enable him to kill himself and his enemies. So therefore, GOD Almighty did approve of Samson's action. Otherwise, why would GOD give back Samson his power after revoking it from him? And didn't He know about Samson's plan and intentions of suicide?

Another Question raised to me: I was asked to show from the Bible where did GOD Almighty indeed grant Samson his power back so he can commit suicide in the intention of taking his enemies with him. Well, let us read Judges 16:19-22:

"Having put him to sleep on her lap, she called a man to shave off the seven braids of his hair, and so began to subdue him. And his strength left him. Then she called, "Samson, the Philistines are upon you!" He awoke from his sleep and thought, "I'll go out as before and shake myself free." But he did not know that the LORD had left him. Then the Philistines seized him, gouged out his eyes and took him down to Gaza. Binding him with bronze shackles, they set him to grinding in the prison. But the hair on his head began to grow again after it had been shaved. (From the NIV Bible, Judges 16:19-22)"

Now let us read Judges 16:28:

"Then Samson prayed to the LORD, "O Sovereign LORD , remember me. O God, please strengthen me just once more, and let me with one blow get revenge on the Philistines for my two eyes." (From the NIV Bible, Judges 16:28)"

Here we see that GOD Almighty apparently gave Samson the chance to get his power back through growing his hair back. GOD Almighty wanted for Samson to take his own life and the life of his enemies with him. He willed for him to die this way. He could've simply willed for Samson to die on the spot after his enemies gouged his eyes for him. But no, instead, GOD Almighty decided for Samson to die while enabling him to take as many pagan Philistines with him as possible.

GOD in the Bible actually makes the point very clear: "Thus he killed many more when he died than while he lived. (From the NIV Bible, Judges 16:30)"

My challenge to all Jews and Christians: Show me in the Bible where GOD Almighty condemned the actions of Samson.

So to all of those hypocrites from Jewish and Christian Rabies and Ministers who call the Palestinian Suicide Martyrs as "Homicide Bombers", how are the Palestinians today different from what Samson did before?

I was just in a huge debate about this.. Wanted to get some freepers refuations of this also Thanks


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1 posted on 07/11/2005 5:25:23 PM PDT by ElisabethInCincy
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To: ElisabethInCincy

Well apparently this guy's taking the position that we should all kill ourselves for some deity cause someone is written to have done it thousands of years ago.

Kookery at its worst.


2 posted on 07/11/2005 5:27:41 PM PDT by G32
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To: ElisabethInCincy

Bush = Delilah


3 posted on 07/11/2005 5:28:27 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: ElisabethInCincy

IBZ?


4 posted on 07/11/2005 5:29:35 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: ElisabethInCincy

"My challenge to all Jews and Christians: Show me in the Bible where GOD Almighty condemned the actions of Samson. "

Thou Shalt Not Murder

Samson killed in the palace of the enemy, killing those who ran the government.

Terrorists kill bus riders... the working man...



5 posted on 07/11/2005 5:29:41 PM PDT by bnelson44 (A proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: ElisabethInCincy

Ugh. Where to begin....

If he's willing to use the bible as an authority, he's already screwed. But that's not quite what he's looking for, so we'll skip that....

The question should be returned, questioning whether or not a suicide bomber would be biblically justified to release a suitcase nuke on Mecca during Ramadan.

After all, God approved of Samson doing it........


6 posted on 07/11/2005 5:30:17 PM PDT by TitansAFC ("It would be a hard government that should tax its people 1/10th part of their income."-Ben Franklin)
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To: G32

I'm glad I'm vaccinated for "Jewish and Christian rabies"
At least I'M safe!


7 posted on 07/11/2005 5:30:32 PM PDT by Quanah
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To: ElisabethInCincy

I'm not sure this is an arguement that is worthy of engagement.

The only question today is, "Is it okay to target innocent citizens going about their lifes?" The answer is no, end of story.

The allies do wind up wounding some citizens of Iraq. I'd venture to say we probably injured far less than the suicide bombers have. And their excuse for doing it, the U.S. is evil. Why is the U.S. evil? Among other things, it's because we injur Moslems.

The terrorists can't think their way out of a paper bag.

Let's let the people of Solomon's time figure that one out, and let the idiot terrorists own up to what they have done to (dis)honor Allah.

Remember, we're the ones who aren't supposed to honor Allah enough. Brother!


8 posted on 07/11/2005 5:30:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: ElisabethInCincy
O God, please strengthen me just once more, and let me with one blow get revenge on the Philistines for my two eyes."

Hmmmmm. Did somebody gouge the eyes out of the 9/11 hijackers?

9 posted on 07/11/2005 5:30:39 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (Hillary '08 -- A 9/10 candidate in a 9/11 world.)
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To: ElisabethInCincy
how are the Palestinians today different from what Samson did before?
There is not enough bandwidth space for me to answer this question.
10 posted on 07/11/2005 5:31:20 PM PDT by roylene
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To: ElisabethInCincy

Interesting that an Arab Muslim would use this argument. Samson's victims were Philistines, i.e., Palestinians.


11 posted on 07/11/2005 5:31:39 PM PDT by solzhenitsyn ("Live Not By Lies")
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To: ElisabethInCincy
Samson was hardly an aggressor. When Samson committed his act of self-sacrifice, he was a prisoner in the enemy camp, the love of his life having betrayed him in a manner most foul. And he was not treated to orange-glazed duck and rice pilaf.
12 posted on 07/11/2005 5:31:58 PM PDT by thoughtomator (For all you love to survive, Islam must be destroyed.)
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To: ElisabethInCincy
Oh. So it's okay for Muslims to read the Bible now?

Good.

13 posted on 07/11/2005 5:32:33 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (Hillary '08 -- A 9/10 candidate in a 9/11 world.)
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To: thoughtomator

so if Samson jumps of the GG Bridge, this guy will too?


14 posted on 07/11/2005 5:33:19 PM PDT by jw777
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To: ElisabethInCincy
The Philistines who died had had Samson brought in to mock his weakness and his blindness.

That's a fur piece from sidling up to a bunch of kids waiting outside a discotheque, or going on to a bus of working people, and blowing them and yourself up.

And having an accomplice who leaves a bomb for the rescue teams.

Did no one in your "huge debate" see a difference?
15 posted on 07/11/2005 5:33:48 PM PDT by kenavi ("Reme'rmber, your fathers sacrificed themselves without need of a messianic complex." Ariel Sharon)
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To: ElisabethInCincy
Perhaps we shall name some of the missiles we shall have to use to blow the moon rock God box back to hell...Samson.


heh heh heh heh



JEDI
16 posted on 07/11/2005 5:34:04 PM PDT by JediForce (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: roylene

What i did refute with was this whole philstine rubbish they mention... The palestinians are the philstines.. so i then asked why they were worshipping pagan god called dagon LOL


17 posted on 07/11/2005 5:34:06 PM PDT by ElisabethInCincy
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To: ElisabethInCincy

I did want to mention they are not worth debating , if you look at that site its disgusting and so twisted.... I was caught off guard and dont run from debate so i replied to it... Intersting comments from freepers thanks


18 posted on 07/11/2005 5:36:23 PM PDT by ElisabethInCincy
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To: bnelson44

Don't forget that he was a captive, and they had blinded him, also. So he had a right to be p*ssed. What is brain-dead Islam's excuse?


19 posted on 07/11/2005 5:36:59 PM PDT by Maceman (The Qur'an is Qu'rap)
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To: ElisabethInCincy

"The palestinians are the philstines.. so i then asked why they were worshipping pagan god called dagon LOL"

All of the Arabs in those days were pagans. Mohammad came after Christ.


20 posted on 07/11/2005 5:38:19 PM PDT by bnelson44 (A proud parent of a tanker!)
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