Posted on 07/07/2005 12:35:25 PM PDT by churchillbuff
I was lectured on Freerepublic that I was supposed to "feel safer" because we captured Saddam -- even though there's no evidence that he was behind 9-11. Osama is the guy that Bush promised to get "dead or alive" -- but four years later, he's still out there, free as a jail bird.
Maybe it's time to refocus on the mastermind and culprits who were behind 9-11?
Prediction: I'll get flamed as a "DU provacateur" for advocating that we go after somebody who killed 3000-plus people on American soil.
More like the world could use a rest from your constant drivel Neville.
VIRGINIA BEACH — More than a mile above sea level in the Afghan mountains, four SEALs on a reconnaissance mission on June 28 took enemy fire in terrain thick with Taliban and al-Qaida fighters.
A crew of eight Army Special Forces and eight Navy SEALs heard their emergency call, boarded a specially-equipped MH-47 Chinook helicopter and sped into the mountain fight. They would not return alive.
On Friday morning, the aftershock of the Afghan battle resonated through a naval base and a community 7,000 miles away.
Nearly 2,600 mourners converged on Little Creek Naval Amphibious Base to remember and grieve the lives of 10 SEALs killed last week fighting terrorists in a covert mission. Six were based at Little Creek.
Family, friends, service members, elected leaders and the tight, secretive community of SEALs filled the base theater and gymnasium to grieve the worst loss of Navy special forces since World War II.
“These men bravely and unselfishly answered the nation’s call to defend freedom and protect America and its allies from terrorism,” said Rear Adm. Joseph Maguire in remarks to reporters after the closed ceremony.
The 16 elite service men died when a rocket-propelled grenade apparently struck their helicopter. Two of the four SEALs on the reconnaissance mission were killed, and another wounded and rescued. A search operation remains active for the final man.
Six of the SEALs killed in the battle were based at Little Creek: Chief Petty Officer Jacques J. Fontan, 36; Lt. Cmdr. Erik S. Kristensen, 33; Petty Officer 1st Class Jeffrey A. Lucas, 33; Lt. Michael M. McGreevy, 30; Petty Officer 1st Class Jeffrey S. Taylor, 30; and Petty Officer 2nd Class Danny P. Dietz, 25.
Dietz was one of the four SEALs conducting intelligence operations in Kunar Province. The other men were killed in the helicopter crash.
Kunar sits along the Pakistani border in eastern Afghanistan, and is considered a lawless stretch of rugged lands controlled by local warlords and tribes.
It is reputed to hold the lair of Osama bin Laden, and has been the focus of several U.S. military operations.
Maguire said that the mission, known as Operation Red Wing, was an effort to defeat terrorists operating in the region. Maguire oversees the Naval Special Warfare Command.
Maguire said the rescued SEAL is in good condition at the military medical center in Landstuhl, Germany.
The SEAL survived for three days eluding and sometimes engaging enemy fighters before being rescued.
Maguire said the lessons learned from the operation will pay “tremendous dividends.”
On Friday, the military community was devoted to mourning and remembrance. Maguire said the two-hour service paid honor to the fallen men and the history and loyalty of Navy frogmen.
The ceremony also honored the Army Special Forces. “We are one team, one force,” Maguire said.
A family member or a close friend eulogized each of the six local men. Video screens flashed pictures and tributes.
A small display of memorabilia from each of the 10 fallen men was built from swim fins, life jackets, masks, wet belts, CO2 cartridges and engraved K-Bars .
The K-Bars are special knives given to new SEALs. Each is engraved with the name of a former SEAL, and where they died in combat.
Maguire said the men took on a difficult mission without hesitation. “The loss of these brave warriors will only strengthen our resolve.”
Of course we've been there, but only in small numbers.
I say we pull the troops out of Germany and alternate their assignments in those mountains and our own borders.
That way, they could get some stateside family time.
Gosh, CWO, you have a lot in common with Ward Churchill. Here's what I mean:
WARD CHUCHILL: Seems to love Osama; Makes excuses for Osama
CHURCHILLBUFF: Hates Osama for killing thousands on American soil. Wants Osama caught, tortured (if possible) and executed.
CWOJACKSON: Hates Churchillbuff for calling for the capture of Osama.
Hmmm, guess have a lot in common with Ward Churchill - - both of you don't care if Osama is caught!! Chamberlain would approve - - he wouldn't want Osama caught and killed, either!
From every poll that has been taken. If you can cite a poll within the past 6 months that shows Americans favor the Iraq invasion, cite it. You can't, so instead you resort to name-calling. So does my 6-year-old nephew when he can't say anything else.
Osama killed 3000-plus people on American soil on 9-11. IF you're not interested in capturing and punishing him, then you and I have some big differences. I daresay Neville Chamberlain would agree with you, not me.
If they're supporting and harboring terrorists who are killing us -- and who perpetrated 9-11 -- then why should they not be a target for invasion, every bit as much as Iraq (which didn't do 9-11) or Iran?
It took you how many days to come up with an answer, and you're fixated on teh POLLS?
LOL!
You DO live in an alternate universe!
How many polls conducted by ANYONE in teh media are accurate?
Tell me THAT one.
Cite a poll, LINK a poll, show me something that isn't LAME stream media or wannabe lib-blogger.
I knew you couldn't cite any evidence for your claim. Have a nice day.
"I knew you couldn't cite any evidence for your claim."
Show me a LINK trolling one.
YOU said 'the polls' and were challenged to provide proof, you still have yet to provide proof.
Failure to provide proof will constitute showing that your statement of "couldn't cite any evidence" should be pointing at YOURSELF.
A 30-second google search for poll and Americans and Iraq and you'll find five polls. None of them go your way. I'm not going to do your research for you.
YOU made teh claim back in post 219 that 'most Americans' do not support the war.
WHEN CHALLENGED TO PROVIDE PROOF you tried to side step.
You STILL ARE SIDE STEPPING.
Again, what 'most Americans' are you talking about, the libtards 'polled' by ZOGBY, the ridiculaouly slanted polls by CNN?
YOU made the claim, YOU back it up!
You still have yet to back up your claim!
BTW Church...I am not going to do ANYTHING in the way of researching polls etc....
I prefer to remain stupid and uninformed as you view most of us here on this thread.......after all, you are the one with all the vital research to support the various "most people..." statements you claim.
Got to go work.
You seem like you are in flamemode to those who engage you here.
Instead just answer the BTW question and maybe you can resuscitate that "cred" issue
I'm saying I haven't seen a poll, from any source, that says the majority of Americans now support the Iraq invasion. Have you? If you're going to say that polling is a worthless science, you'll get an argument from every successful politician and marketing exec in the country. In fact, it was precisely because the polls show support for the Iraq invasion waning, that Bush made his televised address a couple weeks ago. The White House accepts that polls have some validity -- especially when they all point a particular way on a particular issue, as they do on Iraq.
You completely miss my point.
There are tens of thousands of islamowackos right here.
Some have been here for a decade or more and thousands
more are streaming over the mexican and canadian borders.
Sooner or later those islamozombies are coming to a
subway, a bus or a mall near you.
Osama has shot his wad.
Sooner or later some islamofreaks will take over Pakistan
and we'll have to keep the nukes out of their hands.
Then we'll have a chance to get Osama.
But the guy who is most likely to blow you up lives almost next door.
So has the BTK killer, but does that mean he shouldn't have been caught and punished?
Osama has shot his wad. Sorry, I think there may be more to cum. Time will tell.
You've been listening to too many liberals ... Getting UBL wouldn't do crap except give the liberals the task of finding some new thing to bash Bush about... ( That said, I wish UBL was our only problem. He's not. I also wish this war was as easy as the liberals think it is... How brain dead does a person have to be to believe that arresting one person would end a war? Stunning.
We want to get UBL, but not because we believe they'll all quit and go home. Stunning, Really stunning.
"I'm saying I haven't seen a poll, from any source, that says the majority of Americans now support the Iraq invasion."
That is so laughable that it should be preserved for posterity.
You just HAVE to move the goal posts when it suits you, don't you?
You made the claim that "MOST" Americans DO NOT support the war.
Now you are claiming that you are asking for proof of support FOR the war.
So which is it?
Are you trying to claim that your post really meant that you're looking for proof of support for the war or are you looking for proof of majority against the war?
If you can't keep it straight, don't make the claims.
You made the claim that most Americans do NOT support the war.
And you were asked for proof.
You cited 'polls' without showing any.
You still have yet to show any.
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