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Backing for Bush on Iraq is gone, local veterans say (Barf alert)
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/ ^ | 6/29/05 | Michael Mayo

Posted on 06/30/2005 8:24:19 AM PDT by lowbridge

The televisions at VFW Post 2500 in Hollywood were tuned to President Bush on Tuesday, but his words weren't getting rapt attention.

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"He's running scared," said Giblock, 63. "His poll numbers are so low, he's got to say something, but the support is gone. It's gone. I don't think there's anybody in here who's behind him."

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Charlie Nessl, 89, who fought in World War II at the battle of Midway: "I don't think we should be there."

Bob Artman, 79, a World War II veteran: "I got a bad taste in my mouth. Every time I read about a guy getting killed, I tear up. I didn't feel this way at the beginning, but now I just don't see an end to it."

Ted Anderson, 73, a Korean War veteran and former police chief in New Jersey: "We still have thousands of troops in the [demilitarized zone] in Korea 50 years after the fact. It's going to be the same thing 50 years from now in Iraq."

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"When you got people who are willing to strap bombs to themselves and blow themselves up, that's a hard war to win," said McDonald, 71, a Korean War vet who voted for the president last year. "I think Bush had the right idea, but now it's turned into a religious war for some people there. And that's the worst kind of war to be in.

"The thing is, Bush is committed, so he's got to stick to his guns. But at some point he's got to come up with a plan to get out of there because we're never going to be able to get rid of 100 percent of the terrorists. He's going to have to pull out, just like Vietnam."

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; hollywood; speech; trollinthread; veterans; vfwpost2500
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1 posted on 06/30/2005 8:24:19 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

said Giblock, 63. "His poll numbers are so low, he's got to say something, but the support is gone. It's gone. I don't think there's anybody in here who's behind him."


I wonder who is feeding him this information?


2 posted on 06/30/2005 8:25:39 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: PeterPrinciple

This guy has got to be a DUer! Sounds exactly like what they say on their website.


3 posted on 06/30/2005 8:26:26 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: lowbridge
VFW Post 2500 in Hollywood

Sorry, their location removes all credibility ... apparently they have drank the liberal Hollywood poison. Sad to see a group of vets, who are in enemy territory, become traitors to their commander in chief so quickly.

Anyway, the country is still behind Iraq, and thank goodness we are NOT represented by VFW post 2500 in Hollywood.

4 posted on 06/30/2005 8:28:34 AM PDT by AgThorn (Bush is my president, but he needs to protect our borders. FIRST, before any talk of "Amnesty.")
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To: PeterPrinciple

ABCNBCCBS, this is their demographic, and don't forget Bush is going to take away these guys SS too.


5 posted on 06/30/2005 8:29:39 AM PDT by roses of sharon (,)
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To: lowbridge
Senility plays a role in the attitude of most people. Why do we assume "veterans" are exempt? Weak minds, easily led by the opportunists.
Of course people staring their own mortality in the face have an unapologetic rebellious outlook on life; they are immune from the cowardice thing, and pretty much don't care.

I used to think Walter Cronkite was a giant to be admired, until he passed 68 or so and his true personality came out. Feet of clay. Red clay.

6 posted on 06/30/2005 8:30:39 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: lowbridge
I bet the writer made this stuff up. It matches all of the rats talking points.


7 posted on 06/30/2005 8:30:40 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: lowbridge
"He's running scared," said Giblock, 63.

No he's not.

The only people who are "running scared" are the liberals and those who believe everything the media says.

Well, and the French, of course.

8 posted on 06/30/2005 8:31:52 AM PDT by Allegra (On the Rocks With Salt, Please...)
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To: darkwing104
Reporters make stuff up?

Who'da thunk?

9 posted on 06/30/2005 8:31:54 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: lowbridge

Of course his support is gone, don't you know the election was rigged......(sarcasm)


10 posted on 06/30/2005 8:32:40 AM PDT by Pondman88
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To: lowbridge; little jeremiah; EdReform; Ernest_at_the_Beach; MeekOneGOP

Michael Mayo spends most of his life pushing the gay agenda.

This bs appears to be right out of the drugged gay posing as a reporter bs.

Below is the Yahoo Search on Michael Mayo Gay"

http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=Michael%20Mayo%20gay


11 posted on 06/30/2005 8:32:46 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 5 decades.)
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To: darkwing104
I bet the writer made this stuff up.

Or at least cherry picked the comments that would appear in his column. Obviously he had no use for Veterans who were solidly behind Bush.

12 posted on 06/30/2005 8:37:25 AM PDT by lowbridge
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"We still have thousands of troops in the [demilitarized zone] in Korea 50 years after the fact. It's going to be the same thing 50 years from now in Iraq."

And your point is, Mr Anderson? Ya know? Have you considered, Better there than here?
Members of our local VFW washed Bill Clinton's feet with their tongues when he strolled into town. They have always remained silent during Dubya's terms. Our local VFW is comprised of enormous numbers of die hard Democrats.


13 posted on 06/30/2005 8:46:47 AM PDT by FryingPan101 (Ya know?)
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These old farts need to shut up. It is amazing how when you get to be this old you turn so liberal.


14 posted on 06/30/2005 8:49:04 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: AgThorn
Sorry, their location removes all credibility ... apparently they have drank the liberal Hollywood poison. Sad to see a group of vets, who are in enemy territory, become traitors to their commander in chief so quickly.

The VFW post is in Hollywood, Florida (not California), but your point still stands. Hollywood FL is in Broward County which is still big-time 'Rat Country.

15 posted on 06/30/2005 8:51:24 AM PDT by Libertarian444
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To: lowbridge
30-35% of veterans voted for Kerry. Of course the defeated liberal media can find 4 or 5 veterans to bash President Bush. But the extremely delusional and idiotic conclusion that the opinions of 5 veterans are representing the opinion of millions of veterans is another blatant lie and distortion form the defeated liberal media.
16 posted on 06/30/2005 8:51:56 AM PDT by jveritas (The Left cannot win a national election ever again.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
"He's running scared," said Giblock, 63. "His poll numbers are so low, he's got to say something, but the support is gone. It's gone. I don't think there's anybody in here who's behind him."

Who's running scared Mr. Giblock? Our commander in chief and by extension, our troops? What a disgusting, hysterical comment from a man who should know better. Grow the hell up Mr. "Veteran" and stop reading the local rag and watching CNN and most important of all, get a grip. This is the guy that Patton would have slapped across the face. Typical doom and gloomer.
17 posted on 06/30/2005 8:53:09 AM PDT by headstamp
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To: lowbridge

Nothing sadder than an old vet who's lost his nerve.


18 posted on 06/30/2005 8:55:45 AM PDT by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: Grampa Dave
These guys are like raoches....they infest everything.....

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19 posted on 06/30/2005 8:56:16 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Pondman88

Actually, Bush's ratings have been down recently. Not quite overwhelmingly, but still it's something to worry about.

http://www.hist.umn.edu/~ruggles/Approval.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-03-24-bush-poll_x.htm
http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm


20 posted on 06/30/2005 8:57:48 AM PDT by orangeaid
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