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Is Allah God?
netWMD - The War to Mobilize Democracy ^ | June 28, 2005 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 06/28/2005 12:47:49 PM PDT by forty_years

Asked if Muslims worship the same Almighty as Jews and Christians, President Bush replied some months ago, "I believe we worship the same God." The Islamic deity, known as Allah, in other words, is the same Supreme Being to whom Jews and Christians pray.

The president's statement provoked widespread dismay among Evangelicals; one poll found 79% of their leadership disagreeing with this view. Pat Robertson pungently explained why, observing "the entire world is being convulsed by a religious struggle. … whether Hubal, the Moon God of Mecca, known as Allah, is supreme, or whether the Judeo-Christian Jehovah, God of the Bible, is Supreme."

Muslims at times agree that God and Allah are different. Irshad Manji has recounted how her teachers at a madrassah in Canada taught her this. And a Jewish scholar, Jon D. Levenson, finds the claim that Christians and Muslims worship the same God "if not false, then certainly simplistic and one-sided."

This debate plays out at many levels. In the American scouting movement, Muslims promise "I will do my best to do my duty to God"; their British counterparts instead do their "duty to Allah."

This might seem like a minor semantic quibble, but the definition of Allah has profound importance. Consider two alternate ways of translating the opening line of Islam's basic declaration of faith (Arabic: la ilaha illa-la). One reads "I testify that there is no God but Allah," and the other "I testify that there is no deity but God."

The first states that Islam has a distinct Lord, one known as Allah, and implies that Jews and Christians worship a false god. The second states that Allah is the Arabic word for the common monotheistic God and implies a commonality with Jews and Christians.

The first translation is 40 times more common in a Google search than the second. Yet, the latter is accurate. Mr. Bush was right. There are several reasons to use the translation that equates Allah with God:

Scriptural: The Koran itself in several places insists that its God is the same as the God of Judaism and Christianity. The most direct statement is one in which Muslims are admonished to tell Jews and Christians "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you; our God and your God is One, and to Him we do submit" (E.H. Palmer translation of Sura 29:46) Of course, the verse can also be rendered "our Allah and your Allah is One" (as it is in the notorious Abdullah Yusuf Ali translation)

Historical: Chronologically, Islam followed after Judaism and Christianity, but the Koran claims Islam actually preceded the other monotheisms. In Islamic doctrine (Sura 3:67), Abraham was the first Muslim. Moses and Jesus introduced mistakes into the Word of God; Muhammad brought it down perfectly. Islam views Judaism and Christianity as flawed versions of itself, correct on essentials but wrong in important details. This outlook implies that all three faiths share the God of Abraham.

Linguistic: Just as Dieu and Gott are the French and German words for God, so is Allah the Arabic equivalent. In part, this identity of meaning can be seen from cognates: In Hebrew, the word for God is Elohim, a cognate of Allah. In Aramaic, the language spoken by Jesus, God is Allaha. In the Maltese language, which is unique because it is Arabic-based but spoken by a predominantly Catholic people, God is Alla.

Further, most Jews and Christians who speak Arabic routinely use the word Allah to refer to God. (Copts, the Christians of Egypt, do not.) The Old and New Testaments in Arabic use this word. In the Arabic-language Bible, for instance, Jesus is referred to as the son of Allah. Even translations carried out by Christian missionaries, such as the famous one done in 1865 by Cornelius Van Dyke, refer to Allah, as do missionary discussions.

The God=Allah equation means that, however hostile political relations may be, a common "children of Abraham" bond does exist and its exploration can one day provide a basis for interfaith comity. Jewish-Christian dialogue has made great strides and Jewish-Christian-Muslim trialogue could as well.

Before that can happen, however, Muslims must first recognize the validity of alternate approaches to the one God. That means leaving behind the supremacism, extremism, and violence of the current Islamist phase.

http://netwmd.com/articles/article1056.html


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1 posted on 06/28/2005 12:47:50 PM PDT by forty_years
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To: forty_years
Is Allah God?

Multiple Choice question or essay? Are the answers being graded on a curve?
2 posted on 06/28/2005 12:49:44 PM PDT by Borges
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To: forty_years

The Judeo-Christian God is not "Jehovah", it is "Yahweh"

Jehovah is a corruption of the word that began in reformation times.


3 posted on 06/28/2005 12:50:56 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691 (The enemy lies in the heart of Gadsden)
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To: forty_years
Is Allah God?

On a bad hair day. ;)

4 posted on 06/28/2005 12:51:56 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
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To: forty_years
Allah is a dead eggplant

5 posted on 06/28/2005 12:52:44 PM PDT by evets (</sarcasm>)
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To: Borges

This is from the Catholic Encyclopedia Online...

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01316a.htm


6 posted on 06/28/2005 12:53:59 PM PDT by Navydog
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To: forty_years

7 posted on 06/28/2005 12:54:53 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Taglines are supposed to have meaning?)
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To: AzaleaCity5691

What about Moloch? That one still has followers. The metal ovens have been replaced by exploding cars, but the result is the same.


8 posted on 06/28/2005 12:56:49 PM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: forty_years

No.

Next question?


9 posted on 06/28/2005 12:57:12 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Para espanol, marque el dos.")
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To: AzaleaCity5691
The Judeo-Christian God is not "Jehovah", it is "Yahweh"

Well, then, how dare you refer to Jesus by the English translation of the Greek translation of the Hebrew/Aramaic Yeshua? Why is the name of God the only one that can only be pronounced as it was (presumably) 3500 years ago?

10 posted on 06/28/2005 12:57:38 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: Borges
I thought the arabic for god was ilah not Allah...
11 posted on 06/28/2005 12:59:42 PM PDT by BRITinUSA
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To: forty_years

God joined with his creatures, man, individually. Muzzies reject the notion. As do others. Nevertheless, whosoever will, still.


12 posted on 06/28/2005 1:00:21 PM PDT by Eastbound (Jacked out since 3/31/05)
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To: forty_years
The God=Allah equation means that, however hostile political relations may be, a common "children of Abraham" bond does exist and its exploration can one day provide a basis for interfaith comity. Jewish-Christian dialogue has made great strides and Jewish-Christian-Muslim trialogue could as well.

You can't really address this question until you've defined your terms. For starters, when you say "God," do you mean a semantic construction, or a real live deity with a personality?

Because if you consider God as a concept, it is easy (and valid) to point out that Muslims, Jews, and Christians all worship a god who made heaven and earth, established a covenant with Abraham, and who will one day bring the world to an end.

If, on the other hand, you believe that God the Father (a.k.a. JHWH or Yahweh) really is a spiritual entitity, then it makes a great deal of difference whether the being known to his devotees as "Allah" is actually the same being, or an impostor.

Myself, I do believe that there is a being worshipped by the name "Allah," and who maybe even spun a pack of lies to a fellow by the name of Mohammed once upon a time. That does not, however, make him my God.

13 posted on 06/28/2005 1:02:07 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: forty_years
"You will know a tree by its fruit.. "

Pure and simple..
What fruit does Allah have.?.

IN ISLAM--->>>> NO SIN, NO responsiblty, NO Law, No PITY, NO Mercy, NO Love, NO goodness, NO rightousness, NOthing HOLY

Mohamaad is a prophet?(foretells future) like the mafia foretells your future... they KILL YOU.. or make you pay "protection" from themselves..

Jiziya(arabic word) <<- Muslim TAX for being NOT MUSLIM... sometimes 80 percent of earned income.. or more if your DEAD.. or half-dead, maimed, or stop being a muslim..

14 posted on 06/28/2005 1:05:12 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Restorer

The term Jesus was not contrived as a way to get back at the Church they had previously broken away from, the same cannot be said for "Jehovah"


15 posted on 06/28/2005 1:06:03 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691 (The enemy lies in the heart of Gadsden)
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To: evets

Don't abuse the eggplant A.I. will be all over you .


16 posted on 06/28/2005 1:07:15 PM PDT by lionheart 247365 (( I.S.L.A.M. ; ) Islam's Spiritual Leaders Advocate Murder .. .. .. ))
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To: forty_years

Abraham, Abram, and Ibrahim...the patriarch of all three religions.(emphatic period)


17 posted on 06/28/2005 1:07:31 PM PDT by Cognoscenti247
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To: forty_years


Is Allah God?

NO and NO!


18 posted on 06/28/2005 1:08:21 PM PDT by roylene
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To: Oberon
Myself, I do believe that there is a being worshipped by the name "Allah,"

Good. Um could you please pass that on to the 250 million Muslims out there. Appreciate it!

19 posted on 06/28/2005 1:09:24 PM PDT by Bommer
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To: lionheart 247365
Okay... would you believe a rotten tomato?

20 posted on 06/28/2005 1:10:58 PM PDT by evets (</sarcasm>)
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