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Is Allah God?
netWMD - The War to Mobilize Democracy ^ | June 28, 2005 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 06/28/2005 12:47:49 PM PDT by forty_years

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To: forty_years

But do Jews and Christians worship the same God? A Jew would look at the theology of the trinity, then at their own monotheism and say "no".


21 posted on 06/28/2005 1:12:43 PM PDT by Mylo
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To: Bommer
Good. Um could you please pass that on to the 250 million Muslims out there. Appreciate it!

I'm certain that their opinion would differ from mine on the topic. On the other hand, they probably consider me apostate, me being a non-muslim and all...an apellation which I will gladly wear from my point of view.

22 posted on 06/28/2005 1:13:44 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: forty_years
Is Allah God?

Nope.
23 posted on 06/28/2005 1:14:43 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: forty_years

There is no god named Allah.


24 posted on 06/28/2005 1:15:44 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

Agree. The answer is an emphatic NO!


25 posted on 06/28/2005 1:17:19 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: forty_years
The second states that Allah is the Arabic word for the common monotheistic God and implies a commonality with Jews and Christians.

Yes, because that commonality is derivitive: Islam is one of the most successful of the early Judeo/Christian heresies.
26 posted on 06/28/2005 1:17:32 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

But there are legions of demons that answer to that name.


27 posted on 06/28/2005 1:19:12 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (lex orandi, lex credendi)
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To: forty_years
Is allah God?

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No more than islam is a religion.

28 posted on 06/28/2005 1:19:27 PM PDT by trisham ("Live Free or Die," General John Stark, July 31, 1809)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
But there are legions of demons that answer to that name

There are also demons that answer to the name legion. Luke 8:29

29 posted on 06/28/2005 1:22:56 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Your HONOR STUDENT is merely a pawn in my pugs plot for world domination. :o))
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To: Mylo

"A Jew would look at the theology of the trinity, then at their own monotheism and say "no".

Right, that's what I was thinking.

This is all beside the point, to a large extent. The Buddhists don't really believe in any god (insofar as I know), the Hindus believe in a boatload, but the point is that the Buddhists & the Hindus aren't running around all over the globe slaughtering people.


30 posted on 06/28/2005 1:23:00 PM PDT by jocon307 (Can we close the border NOW?)
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To: aruanan

Or is Christianity one of the most sucessful of the early Judean heresies?


31 posted on 06/28/2005 1:23:07 PM PDT by Mylo
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To: forty_years

In Aramaic, the language spoken by Jesus, God is Allaha.

Jesus prayed to Allaha? How interesting!


32 posted on 06/28/2005 1:29:32 PM PDT by Mylo
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To: forty_years

This argument is full of contradictions. As it points out, according to Islam, "Moses and Jesus introduced mistakes into the Word of God; Muhammad brought it down perfectly."

That in itself contradicts the view that they can be the same God. According to the Nicene Creed, and pretty clearly stated in John 1:1, Jesus IS God. So this argument states that God made some mistakes about God?

From the Jewish point of view it's not possible either. Muhammed changed the account of Abraham and his descendants in the Torah in several major ways. Sons who were exiled became sons who were chosen. God doesn't contradict Himself.

Christians believe that the Hebrew Bible is an accurate account. Muslims do not. This argument just won't wash.


33 posted on 06/28/2005 1:32:07 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: aruanan
Islam is one of the most successful of the early Judeo/Christian heresies.

Agreed. The only one more successful is Christianity, which is a Jewish heresy.

34 posted on 06/28/2005 1:32:45 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: forty_years
NO!
35 posted on 06/28/2005 1:33:15 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Children's classic songs updated for Islam "If you're happy and you know it, Go Kaboom!")
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To: Mylo
Jesus prayed to Allaha? How interesting!

Why is that interesting?

36 posted on 06/28/2005 1:33:41 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: forty_years

Christians worship God in Trinity -- Father, Son and Holy Spirit. While Islam includes Jesus in its religious system and "honors" him as a great prophet (of Islam), it denies all the essential christological doctrines, and then has the gall to say that the Church has it wrong. Everything I affirm when I say the Creed during Divine Liturgy, Islam denies, except that Jesus is coming again. And, if I understand it correctly, Islam claims that the Comforter promised by Christ is not the Holy Spirit, but Mohammed himself.

So, no, looking at it this way, I would have to say that Muslims and Christians do not worship the same God.


37 posted on 06/28/2005 1:33:46 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and unto God what is God's)
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To: Bommer
Good. Um could you please pass that on to the 250 million Muslims out there. Appreciate it!

I should make it clear...I believe that there is a real, spiritual being that answers to that particular name. I don't pray to him, thanks.

38 posted on 06/28/2005 1:36:02 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Oberon
Because, oh King of the Elves, if Jesus were to listen to the prayers of Muslims in Arabic, he would instantly recognize that the latter were praying to the same God, and using the same word for God.

Allah= Arabic

Allaha= Aramaic.

I say INTERESTING!
39 posted on 06/28/2005 1:37:22 PM PDT by Mylo
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

Christians worship the God in Trinity. Jews and Muslims worship ONE God. So would you agree that Jews and Christians don't worship the same God?


40 posted on 06/28/2005 1:38:30 PM PDT by Mylo
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