Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Camden Dad Rages (Father of one of the boys who suffocated in car trunk)
New York Post ^ | 6/27/05 | JOHN DOYLE and CYNTHIA R. FAGEN

Posted on 06/27/2005 6:58:32 AM PDT by Conservatrix

The grieving dad of the 11-year-old mentally troubled New Jersey boy who suffocated in a car trunk with two younger pals blames the state's social-services agency, saying it should have put his son in a facility where he could have gotten help.

"If he would have been put in a safe place, this wouldn't have happened. The child needed a lot of help," Anibal Cruz Sr. said yesterday. -snip-" [The division] did nothing," Cruz said. "Why didn't they lock the baby somewhere safe? When kids need help, they have to help them."

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: agosto; blameeveryoneelse; boys; camden; camdencounty; irrationality; irresponsibility; nannystate
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 141-158 next last
To: mizmoutarde

I believe parents were separated, father moved to Philly, not too far away. He has made statements that he believed estranged wife unable to properly care for their (retarded?, emotionally disturbed?) son and had called DCS on several occasions to check on son. He specifically mentioned being worried about son wondering off from mother's home. I don't know if any of this has been confirmed.

It must be hard enough to deal with their case load, but when there is a possibility of parental antagonism fueling the fire these things might go to the bottom of the to-do list at DCS. If the father is being truthful (hard to tell) DCS may indeed have dropped the ball where it IS their job to step in when parents are unfit, and they have been alerted.


21 posted on 06/27/2005 7:31:15 AM PDT by YankeeGirl (Certa bonum certamen)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Bossy Gillis

Yes, he was retarded.


22 posted on 06/27/2005 7:40:58 AM PDT by twigs
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: mizmoutarde

Who left the trunk open and forgot about it?


23 posted on 06/27/2005 7:41:23 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: YankeeGirl

It is too bad the father wasn't around his boy and his friends that day playing with them...


24 posted on 06/27/2005 7:42:06 AM PDT by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

Comment #25 Removed by Moderator

To: twigs

Thanks, if he is retarded, that's one thing, but I have seen up close and personal this ADD nonsense or whatever it's called, and the vast majority of them are brats, plain and simple, parents make one excuse after another for them.


26 posted on 06/27/2005 7:46:18 AM PDT by Bossy Gillis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

Comment #27 Removed by Moderator

To: Conservatrix
I think I would have to agree with the poster. (who said that the 11 year old was just a brat, not retarded)....

____________________________

Why? Based on what? The very first reports of their disappearance statedx that the older kid had problems and was mentally like a six year old. There has been asbsolutely nothing to indicate otherwise in any reports issued since. Yet you and that other class act decide that this dead kid was undisciplined, unbridled and a brat. What do you have to back that slur on a dead kid uo, other than your own opinion? Anything?

28 posted on 06/27/2005 7:50:01 AM PDT by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Baynative

"Some high schools are even providing, or thinking of providing day care for the children who are having children."


They recently built a new high school here and I noticed a nice playground on the side. I figured it must be for the student's kids. How sad.


29 posted on 06/27/2005 7:52:58 AM PDT by JZelle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: 2banana; LostThread; Landru; All
The way posters around here toss out the word "lawsuit" like it's some kind of expletive makes me want to wretch. I wish you could all be required to walk a mile in my shoes . . .

I am a parent. I WAS a parent to a 16 year old son who was killed as a result of the negligent actions of others. My wife and I cannot even get an acknowledgment of wrongdoing by any of the responsible parties; to everyone involved, we simply do not exist. The prevailing school of thought is if we are ignored long enough, we will go away.

Well, we're not going away. Just as I defended my little boy against the bullies on the school bus when he was too small to defend himself, I'm defending him now because he's dead and cannot defend himself. The lawsuit (the dreaded "L" word) is the only legal means left to us as parents; the only recourse left at our disposal to bring the responsible parties to their day of reckoning.

Welcome to America, where justice is meted out to the highest bidder and the ones with the craftiest barristers prevail, while the others are left holding their sacs. It is a hateful place where hearts are torn apart while chattering tongues are on constant lookout for a way to paint others in an unfavorable light.
30 posted on 06/27/2005 7:56:22 AM PDT by BraveMan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: mizmoutarde

That does not seem right. Most car trunks are either open or closed and unless someone deliberately left it open or forgot to close it it will be locked.

Someone left that trunk open.


31 posted on 06/27/2005 7:58:31 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: mizmoutarde

I agree wrt orphanages but I am just a heartless conservative.


32 posted on 06/27/2005 8:00:24 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: BraveMan

If "lawsuit" has become a negative word it is not because there aren't some cases worthy of filing one but the rampant abuse by lawyers of the judicial system. That negative implication should not be extended to cover worthy cases. But a huge number of these filings are nothing but legal fishing expeditions to try and take advantage of brain dead juries.

I am sorry to hear of the tragedy involving your family and hope you find resolution and peace.


33 posted on 06/27/2005 8:05:26 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Conservatrix

Looks like a nerve was hit, must be something close to home.


34 posted on 06/27/2005 8:08:10 AM PDT by Bossy Gillis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Bossy Gillis; Conservatrix

Nope, just a low tolerance for yahoos who will believe the worst in spite of the fact there is no evidence to support what they spew. In this case your target was a dead boy....get it? You speak ill of a dead child with absolutely nothing but your own imaginings to support your calumny.


35 posted on 06/27/2005 8:34:39 AM PDT by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Conservatrix

My friend was step parent to two girls for 10 years. The youngest was thrown down the stairs by her abusive mother when she was 18 months. Her father got custody at 3 (after battling the courts because courts seem to think that ONLY bio mothers can parent) and my friend raised her untill 13 (last year). They are now 13 and 14. Her moron of a husband decides to leave her for a super trash woman who didn't even have custody of her own children. He has restricted access to their 'mother' (who until she can afford a divorce has no visitation rights or custody rights) and their NEW stepmother is a monster. The youngest has ran away three times now, walking down a main highway to get away. The house is extremely filthy and the girls went from A/B student (the slower girl is in Special Ed, but still A/B) and the older on the honor roll to both girls FAILING last year. My friend has called DCFS repeatedly to beg them to take a look and see what the h*ll is going on because she has no access to even talk to them. Their new stepmother (and I say that loosely, she is living with a married man) won't even let them go to their grandparents house because they still have contact with my friend. DCFS told my friend that they were closing the case because they think it's a jealous wife issue/custody issue. They never even talked to the kids or went out there. If something happens to these girls, you can bet your ass it will be their fault. For not protecting these kids FROM their parent.


36 posted on 06/27/2005 8:38:27 AM PDT by sandbar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wtc911

If you want cynical, I'll give you cynical. And this comes from a reformed ambulance chaser. If Family Services had taken control of this child, the same people who are decrying their inaction would have been screaming about how the child should have been mainstreamed. No matter what, Family Services would be party defendant. A classic Scylla-Charybdis situation indeed. Mark my words, this tragic child will be morphed into a cash cow by greedy, unprincipled lawyers.


37 posted on 06/27/2005 8:38:52 AM PDT by Dionysius
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: wtc911

I doubt you have the full story at this point. More will come out, it always does.


38 posted on 06/27/2005 8:38:54 AM PDT by Bossy Gillis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: stinkerpot65

I agree. I would also put the father on suicide watch.


39 posted on 06/27/2005 8:40:11 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Bossy Gillis
I doubt you have the full story at this point. More will come out, it always does.....

-------------------------------

Do you have the "full story"? If yes then share your info. If not, then show some class and lay off the dead child until you know for a fact that contrary to everything written from day one he was not impaired but just, as you called him, a brat.

40 posted on 06/27/2005 8:45:29 AM PDT by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 141-158 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson