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Camden Dad Rages (Father of one of the boys who suffocated in car trunk)
New York Post ^ | 6/27/05 | JOHN DOYLE and CYNTHIA R. FAGEN

Posted on 06/27/2005 6:58:32 AM PDT by Conservatrix

The grieving dad of the 11-year-old mentally troubled New Jersey boy who suffocated in a car trunk with two younger pals blames the state's social-services agency, saying it should have put his son in a facility where he could have gotten help.

"If he would have been put in a safe place, this wouldn't have happened. The child needed a lot of help," Anibal Cruz Sr. said yesterday. -snip-" [The division] did nothing," Cruz said. "Why didn't they lock the baby somewhere safe? When kids need help, they have to help them."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: agosto; blameeveryoneelse; boys; camden; camdencounty; irrationality; irresponsibility; nannystate
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Re the article: Spoken like a true Nanny State-er. It's the state's fault that this boy closed the trunk of a car on himself and his friends. No personal responsibility on the part of the mother who was SUPPOSED to be watching these boys. Incredible.

If they knew this boy had behaviorial problems and has walked off alone before (as stated in the article), then why in HELL was he left alone AT ALL??? Especially with two younger boys 5 years old??????? The mother who was watching the boys is the one who left them unsupervised is the one to blame for the tragedy, not Child Protective Services of New Jersey!!!

I mean, have you heard ONE statement of contrition on the part of the mother who was responsible for these boys during the time this tragedy occured? No, of course not. Not one statement accepting responsibility for leaving them unattended. No apology to the other families. No admission of fault. No sorrow at her IRRESPONSIBILITY and carelessness and inattention. The fault lies with HER and HER ALONE.

Incredible.My keyboard wants to SHOUT.....

1 posted on 06/27/2005 6:58:33 AM PDT by Conservatrix
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To: Conservatrix

Sounds like someone (parent) is thinking of a lawsuit...


2 posted on 06/27/2005 7:02:08 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: Conservatrix

It's a premptive strike...the parents should be charged with child neglect.


3 posted on 06/27/2005 7:02:37 AM PDT by blam
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To: Conservatrix
The parents should have been watching their children. These we very young kids.

Watch for lawsuits soon.

4 posted on 06/27/2005 7:02:48 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Get all the incumbents out of politics!)
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To: Conservatrix

Yep, you got that right. I suspect this kid was a brat, am not buying that he was retarded.


5 posted on 06/27/2005 7:04:44 AM PDT by Bossy Gillis
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To: Conservatrix

Well, you can't be too hard on the guy. His kids are dead. No parent thinks rationally in that situation.

It was just a terrible accident. Nothing more. You can't keep an 11 year old boy locked in the closet all day long. I can remember when I was a kid in the 60's kids were locking themselves in old refrigerators and suffocating.

Accidents happen.


6 posted on 06/27/2005 7:06:00 AM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: 2banana

Yep.... lawsuit is on it's way


10 posted on 06/27/2005 7:13:29 AM PDT by dennisw (See the primitive wallflower freeze, When the jelly-faced women all sneeze)
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To: stinkerpot65
His kids are dead. No parent thinks rationally in that situation.

My first thoughts, too.
Perhaps an attempt to assuage his own feelings of responsibility.
Gotta hurt.
11 posted on 06/27/2005 7:13:31 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: Bossy Gillis
I suspect this kid was a brat, am not buying that he was retarded......

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Where do people like you come from?

12 posted on 06/27/2005 7:14:13 AM PDT by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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To: 2banana

I'm smelling a LAWSUIT !!


13 posted on 06/27/2005 7:15:34 AM PDT by traumer
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To: dennisw

14 posted on 06/27/2005 7:20:50 AM PDT by traumer
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To: wtc911

I think I would have to agree with the poster.

Too many children are simply undisciplined, unbridled brats who never had a decent spanking in their lives, never restrained from being wild, never having limits put on their behavior, never being told "NO." Thus, they are labeled ADD or needing special services. The special services of a good swtich would do wonders for some kids.

I can only imagine the lifestyle of people who leave 5 boys unattended in a crime-ridden, ugly city. Way too much TV watching and not enough kid watching.

Nevertheless, I certainly do not blame the poor child for doing what he did. He simply needed a responsible adult to be watching for his safety and give him guidance that horrible day. The blame rests on the mother who went in the house and left these boys ALONE.


15 posted on 06/27/2005 7:24:37 AM PDT by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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To: traumer

That attorney is a clever one!


16 posted on 06/27/2005 7:25:36 AM PDT by dennisw (See the primitive wallflower freeze, When the jelly-faced women all sneeze)
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To: Conservatrix

Sorry, "3" boys...


17 posted on 06/27/2005 7:26:01 AM PDT by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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To: wtc911

my thoughts exactly!


18 posted on 06/27/2005 7:27:03 AM PDT by merry10
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To: wtc911

my thoughts exactly!


19 posted on 06/27/2005 7:27:03 AM PDT by merry10
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To: wtc911

Pennsylvania, glad you asked.


20 posted on 06/27/2005 7:29:16 AM PDT by Bossy Gillis
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