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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




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To: maggiefluffs; brigette

Greta reporting to O'Reilly that her interest was sparked today by an Aruban man that was in the qroup that was with Beth and Jug the night they arrived on the island. This Aruban man questioned Joran and Joran told the Aruban man that he dropped Natalee off at the HI. What sparked the interest of Greta is how and/or why Joran would have that lie so readily available when it was not even public knowledge that Natalee was missing.


4,601 posted on 06/29/2005 5:35:52 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Quilla

Quilla I can't stand that woman either. She has irritated me every time I have ever seen her interviewed. She sounds like a Sloot mouthpiece. She acts like there couldn't possibly be any mistakes by the authorities. EXCUSE ME? This whole damn investigation has been botched from the very beginning. These incompetent idiots didn't do the most basic things in any suspected foul play investigation.


4,602 posted on 06/29/2005 5:37:52 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: auboy

I think Joran keeps lying about how he got home because HIS FATHER picked him up and took him home. It must have been after he got home that they decided they HAD to get a cover story together.


4,603 posted on 06/29/2005 5:41:00 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: brigette

I heard earlier today that the EquuSearch people are also having to check abandoned homes and septic tanks. Ugh!

I am willing to bet that PvdS the wanna be judge, sort of lawyer knows all the tricks of the trade when it comes to crime like murder and disposing of evidence. After all, you have to study crime to be a lawyer.


4,604 posted on 06/29/2005 5:44:16 PM PDT by WestCoastGal
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To: Pepper777

No I don't think your statement was a tin-foil one. I think he was attempting to "set" his alibi. Same way Scott Peterson thought he could do it. He phoned his wife's cell which had been dead for weeks and left a message that he was coming home from the Marina from fishing. Barf!


4,605 posted on 06/29/2005 5:44:22 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: maggiefluffs

What? Who overheard Deepak and when was the incident? I know you missed part of it, but I missed all of it?


4,606 posted on 06/29/2005 5:45:02 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: brigette

Yes, I zeroed in on that statement by PVDS also. Stand up to what is right?


4,607 posted on 06/29/2005 5:48:08 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: kcat
Well, she did also add that when suggestions are given to the police that they are not too interested in anything unless they themselves come up with the info. Then she said that she had said too much. I keep saying she...but I don't know if the poster is a she, he or a group of the kids.

Well whoever said it seems to know exactly what they're talking about (police aren't interested in any information unless they come up with it themselves). Boy, does that have a ring of truth, or what?

I suppose no one must have suggested that the police check with Joran's friends from school and that's why it finally dawned (ding, ding, ding) on the police to start talking to them today.

Nevermind that the VDSs were working the backside calling to interrogate the kids afterwards, finding out what they told the authorities so they can feed Joran's atty the info to keep burying the truth. Ah.... yes.... Justice in Aruba is served up cold again.

4,608 posted on 06/29/2005 5:50:41 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: Pepper777
"Like you, I think it's strange that Juran would feel the need the let his buddy, Deepak, know he got home okay. Unless he got a ride with someone else (Daddy like you said) and wanted to save Deepak from a wasted trip.
Additionally, the Mom of Juran stated her son, was not even good friends with the brothers."

I don't know if this has been thought of before, but bear with me.

Why would Joran feel the need to contact Deepak in the early AM just to say he got home?

Speculation

NOT because Joran wanted Deepak to be at ease that he arrived home safely, BUT because he had prearranged a ride with Deepak who at some point was waiting to get a call to go BACK and pick up Joran and Natalee (from where Deepak dropped them off). But Joran went home on his own, without Natalee. For some unknown reason, he didn't need or want Deepak to pick him up, as they had prearranged.

Just another thread to weave in the big mosaic of "nobody knows what the hell is going on"...puzzle.

4,609 posted on 06/29/2005 5:52:34 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Canadian Outrage; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; spectre; Howlin
Your post #4390 is exactly what I think Beth ought to do also. I would be screaming in the Justice Ministers office by now with cameras with me. I

What's that saying, "Nice guys finish last?" All I can hope for is that Natalee's parents are getting more information than they are letting on. Otherwise, I don't understand why she hasn't errupted and 'gone off' on these idiots in a press conference.

I also want to know if the Equisearch Team is going to take the cadaver dogs to the VDSs property for a good search.

4,610 posted on 06/29/2005 5:59:15 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: demkicker
I also want to know if the Equisearch Team is going to take the cadaver dogs to the VDSs property for a good search.

Well you know they just can't bust in there, they need the help from Aruba/Dutch LE and they may need more evidence before Aruba/Dutch LE can get a new search warrant allowing the cadaver dogs on the VDS property..
4,611 posted on 06/29/2005 6:03:43 PM PDT by stlnative (please do NOT feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)
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To: All

Ughhh...those idiots at Fox are calling Dave Holloway Natalee's stepfather.


4,612 posted on 06/29/2005 6:06:24 PM PDT by Sunshine55 (Does Anita van der Sloot suffer from Carolyn Condit syndrome?)
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...

Tim Miller of Equusearch stating to Nancy Grace on Larry King said that he is excited about a location that they will be searching tomorrow morning.


4,613 posted on 06/29/2005 6:06:32 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

TexKat is covering CNN
I have FOX on
Who's watching MSNBC?


4,614 posted on 06/29/2005 6:07:59 PM PDT by stlnative (please do NOT feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...
The Equusearch tomorrow is going to very dangerous per Tim Miller. He already has one of the volunteers injured and one sick.

Mr. Miller stated that whereever they will be searching tomorrow will not be inland water.

4,615 posted on 06/29/2005 6:09:35 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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The Equusearch = The Equusearch search


4,616 posted on 06/29/2005 6:10:50 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
The Equusearch tomorrow is going to very dangerous per Tim Miller.

Sharks

4,617 posted on 06/29/2005 6:13:35 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...
CNN segment entitled:

Natalee Holloway Family threatens to go to media if arrests are not made.

4,618 posted on 06/29/2005 6:13:43 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Lord, I hope so!


4,619 posted on 06/29/2005 6:14:48 PM PDT by auboy ("woof")
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To: TexKat
The Equusearch tomorrow is going to very dangerous per Tim Miller. He already has one of the volunteers injured and one sick.

It's a sickening shame that there are men and boys right there who know exactly where she is, but people have to spend so much money, effort and emotion searching.

That said, I would like to see Jack Bauer ("24") or Vic Mackie ("The Shield") "interrogate" the principals. We'd have the full story in short order.

4,620 posted on 06/29/2005 6:15:48 PM PDT by gg188
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