Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative
Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...
Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts
Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts
Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts
Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts
Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts
Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts
Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts
Aruba Info...
Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif
Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif
San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif
Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)
Hotel Pictures -
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)
Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1
Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1
Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg
Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html
Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif
Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)
Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/
Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html
Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html
Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)
Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/
Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923
Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.
Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif
The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long
B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.
D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.
D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.
G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located
D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives
F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.
C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.
E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.
PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.
I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.
This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.
Examples
Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif
or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)
I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE
Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)
This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.
I believe you are right on the money - and put it so well. Otherwise,why in the world would these guys not have talked yet and why in the world have the citizens of Aruba been so quiet.
Fox quoted PVDS. He's got a lame excuse for everything. I hope Greta's show tonight won't be a let down. I want some more red meat!
Just saw Beth on CNN's Anderson Cooper. Bless her heart, she's hanging in there but this mess is taking its toll. She repeated that the three boys know what happened to Natalee and she's suspicious of PVDS. Said AVDS either knows more than she's telling or is EXTREMELY naive.
Beth had to go through the PVDS sweating story all over again. A. Cooper hadn't even heard it (can you say scooped by one week & still hasn't a clue?). He was shocked & Beth repeated there were 'other things' from that visit that make her know PVDS is not being truthful. I wish we knew what she's referring to....
Thanks! And, yes, there are many freepers contributing to this thread.
Oh, TOEEEEEE!!! Come 'er girl!!!! Come on, come on I know you're out there a lurkin'. Come on girl.
There is a poster from time to time at scaredmonkeys who was apparently on the trip. She suggests that when the security guard last night told Greta that Deepak told him that they thought the girl would turn up after being at a crackhouse or something that that was a clue, from the security guard, to look at the crackhouses. They are real secret code clueish over there at sm, but this case is so bizzare maybe anything goes.
I think you've hit the bullseye. I've been ranting about this incompetent investigation for days, especially when they let PVDS out of jail. Your theory at least EXPLAINS the reason for the so-called incompetence in this circus of an investigation.
Well if that's a legitimate hot tip, I'm sure the investigators will rush to start checking around the crackhouses in about another four weeks....
Unbelievable!
Fritzy wrote--> " Perhaps we need to put Brigette together with Mark Furman (moved to Aruba) on site to get this job done!!!!"
Definately an excellent idea. :)
Like you, I think it's strange that Juran would feel the need the let his buddy, Deepak, know he got home okay. Unless he got a ride with someone else (Daddy like you said) and wanted to save Deepak from a wasted trip.
Additionally, the Mom of Juran stated her son, was not even good friends with the brothers. Obviously the Mom wasn't informed of who her son's friends were, or Juran and the brothers were on a special mission during the night/morning of 5/29 & 5/30, and were in fact, not good friends. It's strange how the perps are distancing themselves from each other. The DJ, Croes said he did NOT KNOW any of them. I find that one hard to believe, too.
The only two who are definately hooked at the hip, are the Father and Son. Mom seems to be out of the loop on most of what Father and Son does, when she's away or asleep or even worse - she's actually pretending NOT to know what happened.
After hearing a recent report from the Chief Prosecutor of Aruba, I'm thinking the VDS family is doing everything in their power to stop the investigation from going forward. What a horrible tragedy for Natalee's family. Not only do they have her disappearance to deal with, they also have to fight this obvious cover-up by the VDS family and whoever else, within the Aruban government. Rather than Keystone Cops, like you mentioned in your post, it might be more sinister. It's looking like it's very scary to leave this country and have the need to deal with a foreign government, imo.
More like self-preservation...
deliberate incompetence stemming from sheer terror.
Well, she did also add that when suggestions are given to the police that they are not too interested in anything unless they themselves come up with the info. Then she said that she had said too much. I keep saying she...but I don't know if the poster is a she, he or a group of the kids.
I'll be tuned into Greta as well. Fingers crossed for new info.
sw
Excellent post.
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Your post #4390 is exactly what I think Beth ought to do also. I would be screaming in the Justice Ministers office by now with cameras with me. I feel like Beth, I am ABSOLUTELY SURE that Paulus Van der Sloot DID call a meeting to get a cover story to cover his bad son's ass!!! In fact, the text message to Deepak that he was home shows me that the father more than likely picked up the son. This isn't a kid that is used to having to WALK two miles home. I hope for Beth, Jug and Natalee Dad's sake that the FATHER is re-arrested. And I don't remember who said it but the Van der Sloot property absolutely should be gone over inch by inch with the dogs and back hoes and whatever it takes. By the sound of Satish's lawyer last night, HE felt that the Van der Sloot kid SHOULD still be held because his story is the only one that STILL continues to change as he is continually confronted with another LIE!!
Following article mentions the boat guy...sure sounds like he'd know the waters around Aruba.
http://www.travelgolf.com/departments/resortfeatures/aruba/tierra-del-sol.htm
(Ok I am back from dinner)
I don't know if I should do this, so I am not going to go in to great detail...
There are many ways to dispose of body on land, here is just a couple...
You have large hotels on the island - there will be very large trash compactors outside these hotels. The kind of dumpsters that need to be loaded on to the back of truck and hauled off to the dump. They have plate a steel that compacts the trash and pushed the trash to the front of the dumpster. She could have been thrown in one of these and we know that the island is loaded large hotels. Where does the trash go on the island (is there a landfill on the island or are the dumpsters shipped out on a ship to another location?)
The fresh water system is is fairly new to the island, before and most rural locations now still use cistern systems on the island. (Water storage tanks that are in ground). I am sure the island is still loaded with vacated cisterns that are no longer used but can still be accessed. For example I live in rural location in the USA, we have to have water hauled in to us every week during the summer. We are pretty close to being hooked up to the city water service, but that will be a few years away yet. When it we are finally hooked to city water we will have 2 empty cistern tanks (each holds 1500 gallons of water) underground that we will no longer use. We will not fill them in with dirt because it too expensive to that, so the cisterns will be left alone but unused.
Currently we catch rain water also (our gutters are hooked up to empty into our cistern tanks) but when we get no rain then we have to have fresh water hauled in. (we by gallon jugs of water for drinking and cooking with)
Quite frankly they could have dumped her body in a old and no longer used cistern.
Just because they have not found her body yet does not mean they dumped her in the ocean.
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