Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[hummingbird]

I heard a snippet today of a report regarding special prayers to the deceased Pope John Paul would be answered. I'm not Catholic so I don't know and I missed most of the report, but can we just say a prayer that Natalee can call out somehow to those searching for her. Just a small clue is all we need to find her.

Wish I had heard that report, WCG. Maybe a couple of other freepers can help out.

[pamlet]

Can't say that I ever responed to Toepsi... sorry.

I will say that I'm more and more amazed how "facts" are being "picked and choosed" ... and that huge leaps are being made.

The latest is the security guy - I'm curious why when he first came out with the story regarding how he conversed with Deepak in jail - he never mentioned the father - NOW suddenly he's saying the father was in on it?! I'm sorry - there's too much embellishment on every side of this story. It's getting VERY confusing on who to believe.

[cajungirl]

Not yet, you know I need it. I am getting crankier every year as I age. By the time I go on Social Security, I will be a positive menace.

[hummingbird]

I'm Catholic. I wish I'd heard that report. I'd say go ahead and pray. He's not a saint yet, but I think he's listening.

Praying for a good outcome.

[af_vet_1981]

How do you find that when the system is so corrupt they are letting the father go when an excellent witness says the father/family helped in the cover story?

There are too many complicit in the harvest of American girls on their last night in town. They feed on corruption and only respect raw power. They think if they stick together they can wait out the Americans. They think Americans are stupid.

How many days did it take to search the kid's home? How many days did it take to search the family cars?

Was it a week ? It doesn't matter when PvdS is running the coverup with connections on the inside. Then they bring in a new judge who decides there is not enough evidence to hold him.

['61 Libertarian]

I agree, they need to transfer the three to GITMO. Give them a Quran, a toilet to flush it down, three squares per day and a Barry Manilow piped into their cells. They'll be singin' in no time!

[demkicker]

Thanks for the reminder, brigette. I needed to hear it especially since I wavered and posted to toespi... aaaaack!

Don't you think it's time to start a thread 4? This one is getting a little long.

Signing off and saying goodnight....

[vigilante2]

 brigette (please do feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)

Is that please do or did you mean please don't ?

[kcvl]

Defense attorneys are a plague on the earth, sent to justify the wicked at the expense of the victims.

Just ask Nancy Grace. lol!

Seriously, I know some very honest and good attorneys and judges. In fact, one of the judges in this community is my neighbor. This kind of crap wouldn't go on in his courtroom no matter who they were. That is the kind of person I respect.

We also have a lead detective in the community who had her own son arrested. Then there are the "others" who would lie even if the truth were easier.

[onyx]

Yes, and strength for her family.

[kcvl]

Please get over yourself!!!

lol!

[GnuHere]

Too darned bad a few bad-a$$ Americans cannot create a "proper environment" in which to have a heart-to-heart with J'urine.

[af_vet_1981]

Before I go to bed, you have to lunch with me sometimes. I wanta hear about this "private" help.

Officially we can't make the island a substitute for Vieques. The people of the island must choose whether to accept criminal complicity, corruption and coverup. The price of that choice should be dear.

[TexKat]

It's getting VERY confusing on who to believe.

The one that took the cake tonight was that Steve Croes. Man oh man!!

[af_vet_1981]

It need not even be Americans. Cripple the Aruban economy until they give up the truth about Natalee.

[hummingbird]

Oh, man...if true, that's really messed up. Can you imagine?!

[kcvl]

Cripple the Aruban economy until they give up the truth about Natalee.

I'll be doing my part. I can't imagine anyone wanting to step foot on that island knowing that if anything happens to you, tough *hit.

[af_vet_1981]

I'm sure there are some honest Arubans too. I think they are outgunned for now. The economy must be crippled so that other Arubans are spurred to act to uncover the truth. Of course the five perps should never leave that island.

[blu]

I will be a positive menace.

Well, at least you'll be a positive influence on your fellow old fogies!

[No Surrender No Retreat]

I was watching Greta interview Mickey Johns, one of the security guards first jammed up for the rap.He stated that PVDS and the unmagnificent (3) got together and concocted a story to cover their asses.Per his conversation with Dimpak while in the adjacent cell.

I remember initially Mickey only said, Dimpak told him it was just the boys who made the story up.

The Aruba's Finest De Judge, will try to discredit this info as a fabricated vehement attack on the upstanding character of PVDS. We will see how this plays in this selective law enforcement charade. NSNR