Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2

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FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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FR Quick Ping List (copy & paste) - active posters to the thread
(there is no real ping list - I really do not have one and I do not plan to make one)
Andy'smom;bonfire;brigette;kcvl;maggiefluffs;No Surrender No Retreat;Palladin;Rippersnapper;sarasota;TexKat;theophilusscribe

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

 

[sarasota]

I am in agreement with you. The evidence has vanished.

[ZULU]

"Pedecaris alive, or Raisuli dead!"

[texasbluebell]

I'm sticking to my theory they dumped her body in the ocean.

I've been holding onto hope that she is still alive somewhere, but it's getting harder and harder. IF she is dead, yes, I'm convinced her body was put in the water that night.

[PBRSTREETGANG]

Perhaps that's the reason they are able to claim such a low crime rate?

Yep, exactly what I was thinking.

[PBRSTREETGANG]

Perhaps that's the reason they are able to claim such a low crime rate?

Yep, exactly what I was thinking.

[spectre]

Wow, I missed this.

Maybe Van der Snoot hurt his chest when he beat on himself, while talking with Natalee's mother. One can only hope..

[Quilla]

If and when this is resolved, I suspect the people of Aruba will rue the day they underestimated the tenacity of Beth Holloway Twitty. When it comes to protecting children, mothers can be relentless.

[demkicker]

Maybe they should arrest Daddy Van Der Sloot, if only to see if his son will confess the crime in order to save his Father. I can dream...

I agree & think the kid will sing like a canary if daddy van der sloot is arrested. He'll know daddy can't protect him anymore and (if guilty) he'll be responsible for his dad spending the rest of his life in prison.

We're all speculating, but I really hope the Aruban authorities are playing hard ball with these people. This has gone on long enough.

[texasbluebell]

It does sound like that. At first I thought it was a polygragh, but they don't use cream for that.

It does sound like a medical procedure.

Maybe he got beat up by someone at the jail. He's a big guy, but he's young, maybe someone had his way with the punk.

[MAWG]

" When it comes to protecting children, mothers can be relentless."

They can also be deadly. How much do we know about Urines' mother. He strikes me as a classic mommas boy.

[PBRSTREETGANG]

Maybe he got beat up by someone at the jail. He's a big guy, but he's young, maybe someone had his way with the punk.

I read somewhere that the jail only has eight cells, so I doubt that is likely.

[Countyline]

maybe she has freckles ...
long sleeves look more professional
men that want to look professional wear long sheeves ... and suits

[demkicker]

Equisearch was formed here a several years ago when a lot of young girls started disappearing along the south end of the Gulf Freeway. Most of the Searchers were on horseback at that time, some on ATV and many were on foot. In time, they have become a superb organization who are very skilled at finding lost people. They have been invited all over the world. If the Aruban authorities will GET OUT OF THEIR WAY, we will soon know if Natalees' body is on the island.

A man from Equisearch said on t.v. last night that his own daughter was murdered and went missing for several weeks before her body was found. I wish I could remember his name! He has really provided a great service for other families who are desperate to find their kids. He reminds me of a John Walsh type of guy, who through their own personal pain, try to help others. I really admire the guy.

[Rippersnapper]

Good point about the cream and wires. He probably had a panic attack

[sarasota]

The Aruban government's ability to play "hardball" pales in comparison to what the underground/illegal movement is trying to protect.

[Rippersnapper]

If and when this is resolved, I suspect the people of Aruba will rue the day they underestimated the tenacity of Beth Holloway Twitty. When it comes to protecting children, mothers can be relentless.

I think the officials already are! :)

[txrangerette]

Thanks to both of you for the additional info...

[spectre]

"You two are killing me with the panty talk"

She's ribbing me about the "granny" panties. LOL. It's OK, I asked for it!

[MAWG]

Had it done to me once, that's why it tripped my memory. Worst part was when they put the blood pressure cuff on my bicep. EMT said hold on, they had to squeeze it real tight. I thought my arm was gonna explode. I wont tell you what they do to get a pulse-ox reading.

[Rippersnapper]

I wont tell you what they do to get a pulse-ox reading.

What do they do?