Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2

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FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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FR Quick Ping List (copy & paste) - active posters to the thread
(there is no real ping list - I really do not have one and I do not plan to make one)
Andy'smom;bonfire;brigette;kcvl;maggiefluffs;No Surrender No Retreat;Palladin;Rippersnapper;sarasota;TexKat;theophilusscribe

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

 

[Rippersnapper]

I think its easiest to sum him up as DOING WHAT HE DARN WELL PLEASED!

[vigilante2]

there is one thing you have left out and his apartment is where he also has his webcam for making porn movies such as the one Revoldo has recently learned about

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MCDONALD'S
L.G. Smith Blvd. 376 (Sasaki)
ORANJESTAD
Tel: (297) 5861515
Fax:
Business Category: Fast Food Chains


MCDONALD'S
L.G. Smith Blvd. 82
ORANJESTAD
Tel: (297) 5827919
Fax:
Business Category: Fast Food Chains

Renaissance Aruba Beach Resort & Casino (Marriott)
L.G. Boulevard Smith 82
Oranjestad, Aruba

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino
L.G. Smith Blvd. 101



Looks like the 82 McDonalds is at the Marriott's Renaissance Resort & Casino (again up by the Fisherman Huts)
http://latinamerica.marriott.com/Channels/Marriott+Global/LatinAmerica/FindReserve/AW/findhotel.mi

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Maggie... I am so confused. I thought you told me last week that the search and where the panties were found is right near the small wetland (bird place).

At first I thought it was north of the Marriott hotels but you or some one said no it was done near the small wetland (bird place) - which is not next to the Marriott.

[Rippersnapper]

They searched the small wetland which is about a mile south of the Hotels.

[maggief]

So if I confused you. On the map there is a wetland north of the Mariott. South of that wetland and just north of the Mariott is small pond where they found the panties.

This is even more confusing ...

I googled the address of one of the McD's and came up with this:

Aruba Sonesta Beach Resort
Address: LG Smith Blvd 82

[vigilante2]

don't say that the libs will be blaming this on the republicans in 08

[Pepper777]

Oh okay. Thanks for the correction. :)

[Howlin]

Say, where does this guy and his family live in relation to all this?

[Pepper777]

Brigette, it sure seems to me that I remember the big search resulting from the information of Joran and Natalee being dropped off by the other 2 near the Marriot.

As Maggie said, this is all really confusing. One thing we can't count on - Take anything those 3 guys say as most likely untrue. Unreal to read they had yet changed their story once again. BS that Natalee was left asleep on the beach, imo.

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Ok... it is more clear now (with what you found and what I have now) There is another hotel owned by Marriott and is down by C & C's (so there is at least 3 owned by Marriott on the island)

Renaissance Aruba Beach Resort & Casino (Marriott)
L.G. Boulevard Smith 82
Oranjestad, Aruba

82 LG Smith Blvd is down near Charles & Carlos (I just wonder if they have a North and South LG Smith Blvd

Here is the resort....
Aruba Sonesta Beach Resort
Address: LG Smith Blvd 82
http://www.qcomet.com/photos/feb01/sonesta/

So it may be that the other McDonalds that is closer to Upper Marriott/Holiday Inn/etc.

It would be great if I could find a actual street map of that area of Aruba online.

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Hotel Pictures -
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1


Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1


Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

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So we now know one of the McDonalds #82 LG Smith Blvd. is down by Charlie's and Carlo's Bar.

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see my thread header... under all the links

[kcvl]

Hint: the person who told me this has the last name of Twitty.

I guarantee you that is not true.

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CORRECTION to POST 563

Looks like the 82 McDonalds is at the Marriott's Renaissance Resort & Casino (Is close to Charlies & Carlos Bar)
http://latinamerica.marriott.com/Channels/Marriott+Global/LatinAmerica/FindReserve/AW/findhotel.mi

Marriott owns at least 3 hotels on the island (2 which are located near the Holiday Inn)

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A ton of private photos taken from the Marriott
Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino
http://www.billp.com/aruba/

You can see the fisherman huts in this picture taken from the hotel looking up the coast towards the California Lighthouse.
http://www.qcomet.com/photos/feb01/marriott/qindex.html?19

Which is #1 on this map
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg

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GOOD PICTURE
http://www.qcomet.com/photos/feb01/marriott/marriott015.jpg
this is from the Marriott looking down the beach, the first hotel you see is the first Holiday Inn building (there is another just like it on the other side, the Holiday Court yard is in between the two Holiday Inn buildings

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Good Night you all... I sure would like to go to Aruba, the place is beautiful. But the fear of how your case would be handled if something happened to you while on the island is enough to keep me away.

[Rippersnapper]

There is a good map, could you use that map to point out the various areas that you speak of?

[jaykay]

if this Dutch teenager is found guilty, would he granted diplomatic immunity similar to some cases that have happened in the US?

I think that Aruba is a Dutch territory, so being there would be no insulation from Dutch law. Besides, the kid's dad is not a diplomat, he's an official in the Aruban government.

[elli1]

I would think that someone would tell the beach patrol person that a teenaged tourist missed their plane and is presumed missing, would be much better than, a teenage tourist is missing and presumed on a FLING!

Except that teenaged tourist had not yet missed the flight at the time beach patrol was notified.

And I wonder how big a deal missing a flight is considered to be--from the perspective of officials who deal with a lot of well-heeled tourists. And from the perspective of people who aren't driven by the clock to the extent that we here in the US are. The Caribbean is famous for operating on 'Island Time'.

But it all boils down to tell someone what you will--but know that you can't control how another person is going to process the information.