Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

http://www.riehlworldview.com/

Aruba: Decapitation Story Confirmed
A reliable source on the island of Aruba has confirmed reports of a recent murder / decapitation, and also confirmed reports of another murder currently under investigation in Aruba. A third report regarding a possible new missing person report filed today has not been confirmed at this time.

Additionally, sources close to the Natalee Holloway investigation have indicated to me that there appear to be serious problems developing in establishing a consistent time lime of events surrounding Natalee's disappearance. Problems stem from conflicts among stories by those being questioned, a growing list which now includes Father of Joran v d Sloot, Paulus v d Sloot.

It's possible that the time line as presented by the elder vd Sloot does not fit with other knowable facts in the case, resulting in his having been brought back for additional questioning.

Additionally, from other contacts who are known to be observing the Natalee Holloway investigation very closely on the ground in Aruba, there is growing concern that some of the lack of clarity in the troubling case could be the result of an attempt to minimize the impact of this tragic case on the tourism industry of Aruba.

While differences do exist between the system of justice in Aruba and a watchful America, many Americans are coming to feel more and more dissatisfied from an apparent lack of accountability to the public by Aruban authorities.

Developing, hope to have more tomorrow.

Hunt for teen intensifies

Authorities say 3 men in Aruba are strongest lead in disappearance

Sunday, June 05, 2005

HANNAH WOLFSON News staff writer

PALM BEACH, Aruba - Answers in the disappearance of a Mountain Brook teen could be imminent, relatives and authorities said Saturday as the hunt for the missing honor student intensified.

In Aruba, Deputy Police Chief Gerold Dompig said investigators have stepped up their probe into the three men last seen with 18-year-old Natalee Holloway and hinted at a swift resolution in the case that has baffled authorities and grabbed international attention.

"I want everybody to hold their breaths for the next 24 hours," Dompig said Saturday. "There will be developments after this weekend."

A family spokeswoman in Birmingham said much the same.

"They're watching them very closely," Holloway's aunt, Marcia Twitty, said of the three men.

Ten more FBI agents arrived in Aruba Saturday, bringing the total to 13. Attorney General Caren Janssen said they were brought in for "technical assistance."

Also, FBI agents were asked to come to Aruba. A US Representative from AL made some pretty strong comments that one does not do under normal circumstances. Here are some interesting (disturbing) comments from U.S. Rep. Spencer Bachus, R-Vestavia Hills, U.S. Rep. Spencer Bachus, R-Vestavia Hills, said Saturday there were circumstances surrounding Holloway’s disappearance that warranted the FBI being heavily involved. He declined to give details. “The circumstances were disturbing,” said Bachus, who formally requested the FBI’s involvement. “I can’t get into it, but it’s something the family is aware of. There was an immediate recognition that this was not simply a teen who wandered off.”

Aruban authorities still aren't calling their probe a criminal investigation, and Dompig said Saturday they haven't ruled out scenarios that Holloway left on her own or was kidnapped.

"The rule of thumb would be that, as more days pass, the fear becomes greater that we're looking at a situation where we might not find a person alive anymore," he said. "We think something will happen soon. Whether it's a conclusion that's good for the family or less beneficial for the family, I don't know."

Holloway vanished six days ago while on a five-day graduation trip to the tranquil Caribbean island with about 124 graduates and seven chaperones - four men who teach and coach at the middle and high schools in Mountain Brook and three of the men's wives.

She was last seen shortly after 1 a.m. Monday getting into a gray Honda with three Aruban residents as they left Carlos'N Charlie's bar and restaurant. The three men - two Surinamese men and a native of the Netherlands, between the ages 18 to 25 - were questioned and released, but Dompig said Saturday the men are "persons of interest" and investigators' strongest lead to date. Dompig said authorities are reluctant to release too much information about the men, who said they dropped off Holloway at the Holiday Inn where she was staying. The deputy chief said investigators are holding information close to the vest to avoid scaring off anyone.

"Of course, we keep a close eye on them and when we feel comfortable, and that's going to be very soon, there may be some new developments," Dompig said.

TexKat posted this link just as this extended thread was posted:

Natalee Holloway; What Some Arubans Are Saying

"There has been rumors running that Natalee has runaway once before in a different country.
Or she has runned away once before.
The question is, has she pulled off this stunt once again on Aruba? Did Natalee on purposely disappeared?"

Bad English, for sure, but it does go a long way to explaining why they want the Holloway family to take a polygraph.

Not that I believe it's justified, but if this is the general sentiment on the isle, it does explain it.

It also seem that they are trying to cast suspicion elsewhere- anywhere but there (Aruba).

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