Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1

I can't stop laughing.

They'd sell me into slavery to clean toilets...

901 posted on 06/17/2005 6:49:19 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (What happens in Aruba..stays in Aruba))

There have been many killings by bikers that have never been solved, even tho LE knows they are guilty.

I thought biker codes were amongst the bikers, not LE.

902 posted on 06/17/2005 6:49:37 PM PDT by Rippersnapper

I can't imagine any kid w/an ounce of common sense that would even think about holidaying in Aruba after this, let alone ask their parents.

Although there were some late teen age girls interviewed last night, saying proudly,

"Yeah! We just arrived today!!" [go figure.]

Aruba should be a red flag for donkey's years to come.

903 posted on 06/17/2005 6:52:46 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

top of the thread update. At some point this list will have to get narrowed down. lol

UPDATE:
BREAKING NEWS: 4th (and 5th ?) Person Arrested in Natalee Holloway case
June 17th, 2005 by Scared Monkeys -->

**** UPDATE ****

Fox News now reporting: Sources: 4th Person Arrested in Aruba Mystery

Authorities in Aruba arrested a fourth man in connection with the disappearance of missing Alabama honors student Natalee Holloway, sources told FOX News.

UPDATE: Initials S.C. born 21 -07-1978 –> Has only one hit in national health system: Steve Gregg C. J. Croes

PICTURE: http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Images-Fun/SteveCroes.jpg

Morning Update

June 17th, 2005 by Scared Monkeys -->

The Report is out via blog and newswire in the Netherlands on the status of the Father of Joran Van der Sloots visitation rights. He will be allowed to visit his son in jail. The newest development that I have heard this morning is that Joran’s attorney, A. Carlos will not be allowed to see Joran for 8 days. This is because he talked to witnesses and other people involved in the case. Amazing as it seems for Americans, this is forbidden in the Dutch legal system. (Thanks Gerben)

From The Riehl World:

"I am a clerk at the station down here.. Steve Cruze's criminal file shows detailed history of assault/battery charges against women (and one unlawful touching) all of them dropped though with help of a clever Aruban lawyer, Barton Van Tripp. His family is very wealthy, owns the newspaper down here.. these three guys were 'runners' for Cruze so maybe that's why they aren't singing

Dallas Also

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 2:32 pm

Here is what we have, with good extras from the local Ariba folks that are posting:

1. Someone named Lorenzo was detained and questioned yesterday, but we don't think he has been arrested yet. He is known to be a nutcase, maybe capable of something. His dad owned the Volkswagon dealership there but committed suicide 3 years ago and was found hanging in the hallway of their home.

2. Someone else was arrested this morning and two of our posters are trying to determine if this is their friend that was arrested. The name is Steve Croews. Croews is a common name like Smith or Jones and he is no relation to the Minister Croews that has been quoted some in some press releases. We now know that this Steve Croews is an acquaintance of Americaninaruba and DJTAYLOR, and that he drives a large party boat called the Tattoo that stays docked near the Marriott. Steve Croews is divorced and has two kids and works hard and also would have been the type that might have enjoyed going to a late-night party.

3. Finally, someone suggested that maybe Natalee was taken to an "underground party". Other posters have explained that these parties are thrown after the bars close, that they are supposed to get permissions before they have them, that the police quickly close down any parties that don't have permission, but that Lorenzo lives out away from town and does throw parties and the police don't close those down as easily.

4. In the radio announcements, there are several announcements from officials that they now are back to thinking she could be alive.

AnnieMW1

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 5:27 pm
It is being reported that JVDS called Croes at 6:30 AM (cell phone records).

- RiehlWorld blog

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g1-o1980-k173140-i9659-Off_topic_chatter.html

This is from the Rielworld site:
blogger info Says:
June 17th, 2005 at 4:16 pm
My brother works in law enforcement at a very high level in the US (FBI Level) and is involved with the goings on in the Carribean including Aruba. I agree with Vanessa that no info will come out until it is over. But he was able to tell me that what happened to NH is not what everyone thinks. Prayers are being answered. I will leave it at that.

blogger info Says:
June 17th, 2005 at 4:24 pm
Its real. My brother obviously can not disclose details of what his office knows (i.e. whether she is alive or not) but assured me that the investigation has been coming together very rapidly and that the once called keystone cops of Aruba will leave everyone surprised.

blogger info Says:
June 17th, 2005 at 4:36 pm
Just spoke to my brother again. To prove my credibility there is going to be some newer developments announced in the next few hours.
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http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1154#comments ?
# blogger info Says:
June 17th, 2005 at 4:47 pm

Concerned4natalee -

My guess is the networks will all start hearing about it and reporting it soon. Also, I don’t know if this is relavant to the NH case or coincidental and therefore should be considrered UNRELIABLE until confirmed but I am made to understand that FBI and DEA agents working in Venezuela with Venezualan government officials are making their way to a village north of a town called Adicora (sp.). I don’t know where Adicora is - if anyone can help please advise.

posted by ncj
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g1-o20-k175169-i9659-Off_topic_chatter.html

There is a lot of speculation over on SM that there is an insider in their forum. They said someone was quoted early on as saying that there were some high ranking people involved and there would basically be a day of reckoning. This leads me to believe this was premeditated. It would also explain why the boys are so quiet- fear. This also points to a much larger conspiracy and points more toward an organized ring than accidental death or even murder.

Please see the attached link and browse through pages 40-50.

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/viewtopic.php?t=96&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=1000

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end of ncj's post

posted by chelsblu
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g1-o30-k175169-i9659-Off_topic_chatter.html

It didn't. Here's cut and paste from SM Cancun MOle post...
START OF POST FROM SM
http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?t=20296&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30

bakablGuest Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:00 am Post subject:
Natalee Holloway Questions to be asked of the Two Men
Frist Im vary sorry to hear of the vary sad case of Natalee Holloway in such a wonderful place like Aruba but it could happen anywere at any time. There are a few questions that need to be asked of the two men that the FBI are questioning - 1st ask them about the drink that was given to Natalee around 3:15am Aruba Time the morring Natalee never retyrn to her hotel and ask them about what the drug was in the drink that Natalee drunk without her knowing. 2nd ask them about the boat and the 2-1/2 mile trip they took. They should break dowm and tell the truth about are were Natalee can be found.

abbadminSite AdminJoined: 24 Nov 2002Posts: 512Location: New Hampshire's Monadnock Region Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:35 am Post subject:

cee wrote:
can webmaster trace this post (get email on this person) bakabl. If this is not a hoax, this is important.

Already done, it was posted from a well known large ISP in the U.S. No personal information is available. Richard END OF SM POST
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904 posted on 06/17/2005 6:52:49 PM PDT by Rippersnapper

They would sell me to both darn and iron. You know those South American sex shops need people to iron. Maybe do laundary.

There might be a trade in men who get off on varicose veins. And some pervs might want someone they could discuss their cholesterol and PSA with who didn't get bored. We might be highly sought after. Lock your doors dear, they may be coming for us.

905 posted on 06/17/2005 6:53:03 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)

To: Rippersnapper

906 posted on 06/17/2005 6:53:46 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

I've heard that some are going because it is too late to cancel without losing money. Some that could cancel without losing money have.

907 posted on 06/17/2005 6:54:19 PM PDT by Rippersnapper

To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; marajade; ...

Julie Banderas reporting on Hannity and Colmes stated that a friend of Steve Croes has been questioned by LE and has been released.

908 posted on 06/17/2005 6:56:00 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

My bet is an unintended death

Agree. JVS is the more sleazier than the Kalpoe dorks and I believe their story, that they dropped JVS off with her. Things got rough and/or he used a date rape drug. The contact the next a.m. with Croes was for help re: medical advise or body removal. That's why he's in the klink.

And the real criminals are those in power, finding a way to get their creep children and relatives off, under the guise of an investigation.

909 posted on 06/17/2005 6:56:05 PM PDT by Swanks

Hey...you asked me the right question. I love the Compaq laptop computers. Very dependable. Great tech support. I have had several. Just gave mine to my daughter to use. I sure miss it. I used one on the road for years.

910 posted on 06/17/2005 6:58:59 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)

FOX reporting now about this next person being questioned. I think this is the 6th person (maybe the 5th?) I am loosing track.

911 posted on 06/17/2005 7:01:06 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)

To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; marajade; ...

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:54 pm Post subject:

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Meanwhile, police brought in yet another man for questioning Friday night, FOX News has learned. The man, Max Arends, who is also a friend of van der Sloot, is not a suspect in the case and has not been arrested.

912 posted on 06/17/2005 7:01:39 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

LOL. Well said, cg.

I don't want to disillusion you, but WE are safe..:)

913 posted on 06/17/2005 7:04:11 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (What happens in Aruba..stays in Aruba))

We are moving to the island of Kodiak Alaska in a few months. Luckily I think the "island life" there will be very different. If it were one of those Caribbean ones, I would not go. Evidently the druggies don't like the cold weather! Very small drug problem, or even crime there. But it is so blasted far away! LOL

914 posted on 06/17/2005 7:04:15 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)

ROFLOL. We are of the same ilk. I think we are past the time for having any fear of being sold for "pleasure." hehe

915 posted on 06/17/2005 7:05:35 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)

TK, I couldn't get into that website. Does Steve's father own the newspaper?

916 posted on 06/17/2005 7:05:51 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (What happens in Aruba..stays in Aruba))

Evidently Sloot's father will get to see him once and then no more.

917 posted on 06/17/2005 7:08:15 PM PDT by Rippersnapper

To: Rippersnapper

918 posted on 06/17/2005 7:08:25 PM PDT by southland (Amy Bradley is still an American citizen even though she was sold to Slavery)

Does Steve's father own the newspaper?

There has been speculation on other threads he is part of a wealthy family that owns a paper.

But 20% of the friggin' island is Croes. If they were PA Dutch Aruba would be all Stultzfus...

919 posted on 06/17/2005 7:08:40 PM PDT by Swanks

Wow, sources are telling the Editor of an Arubian newspaper that VDL's father can't see his son anymore. Wonder what happened..????

920 posted on 06/17/2005 7:08:47 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (What happens in Aruba..stays in Aruba))

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